sbt007 wroteSame here. Both of our BMW's have the hug and after a short time neither of us notice it. I hadn't really thought about the hug for quite a while until checking out this thread.I don't have any answers. But I'll just say that it was weird for both me and my wife for the first few weeks. And we felt the same way.
But now we don't even notice it, and actually like it.
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Easy guys.. easy.. this has turned into something it doesn't need to be.
I GET the safety argument and not even saying they are wrong.
My wife might even get used to the "hug" but for personal and real reasons, the sudden synch makes her VERY uncomfortable. My 2024 M2 doesn't do this, as I have said, so good or bad the feature isn't always there regardless of the car.
So this doesn't have to be an argument over this, it's about the technology and that's it.
I GET the safety argument and not even saying they are wrong.
My wife might even get used to the "hug" but for personal and real reasons, the sudden synch makes her VERY uncomfortable. My 2024 M2 doesn't do this, as I have said, so good or bad the feature isn't always there regardless of the car.
So this doesn't have to be an argument over this, it's about the technology and that's it.
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12-15-2024
gugin wroteThank you, I will check this out asap.The G01 has two aftermarket fitment options that relate to the seatbelt tensioner: DBDR_DEACTIVATE_BELTSLACK_DRIVER and DBPS_DEACTIVATE_BELTSLACK_PASSENGER. They change the following parameters from aktiv [01] to nicht_aktiv [00], respectively:
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Try coding cpGleTr1LEnb to nicht_aktiv [00] to see if it does what you are looking for. If it does not disable the automatic tensioner or gives you persistent errors or warnings in iDrive, code it back to aktiv [01]. (Coding anything in the ACSM module will usually give you some kind of a warning that goes away after a few minutes or after shutting the ignition off and turning it back on. But if the warning continues to show up, you should code it back.)
If you do this, can you please report back to this thread about the outcome?
12-15-2024
BMW DIY Guy wroteYeah this. Hadn't considered that for ME, I'm most comfortable being belted in to where I can hardly breathe, but for some that might be claustrophobic, or worse.My wife might even get used to the "hug" but for personal and real reasons, the sudden synch makes her VERY uncomfortable.
To each their own.
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12-16-2024
jsh139 wroteWell, over the top and maybe too much melodrama, but if this is a safety thing (clearly it is not there for any other reason), it just seems it should stay there.That’s a bullshit thing to say and you know it. Now you’re pissing me off. Like I would want to intentionally cause harm to someone. I was happy to let this thread sink to the bottom and die like the other ones where people have asked this same question. And the same thing always happens. People like to feel superior by getting on their high horse and put people down for asking a simple question or giving an opinion. It’s not like we’re talking about taking seatbelts out of the car or disabling the pretensioners that automatically pull back the belts in the event of a crash. We’re talking about a tug on the belt that hasn’t been proven to be necessary other than people theorizing that it is. Show me concrete evidence that it does anything and I will concede this point. Literally squirming around in your seat or turning your head to look over your shoulder puts slack into the belt. The car doesn’t automatically pull it back again when you do that. Come on, you’re totally reaching here.
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IF it feels too tight sometimes. I usually just pull it slightly away from my chest after it tightens....and it no longer feels as tight. Try that.
12-16-2024
I really do wish it could be disabled since I recently had heart surgery and the shoulder belt lies right over the incision area. When I forget that it is going to happen until it's too late, it is not pleasant.
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12-16-2024
truth649 wroteI will let you know if the coding works.I really do wish it could be disabled since I recently had heart surgery and the shoulder belt lies right over the incision area. When I forget that it is going to happen until it's too late, it is not pleasant.
truth649
12-17-2024
Earlier in this thread, the question was asked that if the "hug" was actually a safety device, why isn't it in the rear seats? Part of the answer related to front impact regulatory requirements applying to the front seat. Now, NHTSA is getting around to something as basic as the seatbelt reminder for the rear seat. More rear seat regulation may be likely in the future. This article is from Automotive News today, although the formatting was not preserved in the copy/paste:
U.S. to mandate rear seatbelt reminders starting in late 2027
Rear seatbelt use
NHTSA estimates a new rule that requires automakers to remind rear passenger to buckle up will eventually prevent more than 500 injuries and save about 50 lives yearly.
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Reuters Reuters
December 16, 2024 12:53 PM
WASHINGTON — The U.S. Transportation Department said it will require rear seat reminder systems to boost seatbelt use starting in late 2027 in a bid to reduce traffic crash deaths and injuries that have been rising in recent years.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said its final rule, issued Dec. 16., will also upgrade and expand current warnings for the driver and others in the front seats.
The final regulation comes more than a decade after Congress in 2012 directed the agency to consider mandating the systems for rear passengers.
NHTSA estimates the new rule will eventually prevent more than 500 injuries and save about 50 lives yearly.
U.S. to mandate rear seatbelt reminders starting in late 2027
Rear seatbelt use
NHTSA estimates a new rule that requires automakers to remind rear passenger to buckle up will eventually prevent more than 500 injuries and save about 50 lives yearly.
Author
RR
By:
Reuters Reuters
December 16, 2024 12:53 PM
WASHINGTON — The U.S. Transportation Department said it will require rear seat reminder systems to boost seatbelt use starting in late 2027 in a bid to reduce traffic crash deaths and injuries that have been rising in recent years.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said its final rule, issued Dec. 16., will also upgrade and expand current warnings for the driver and others in the front seats.
The final regulation comes more than a decade after Congress in 2012 directed the agency to consider mandating the systems for rear passengers.
NHTSA estimates the new rule will eventually prevent more than 500 injuries and save about 50 lives yearly.
12-22-2024
gugin wroteI can 100% confirm that this WORKS!!!!The G01 has two aftermarket fitment options that relate to the seatbelt tensioner: DBDR_DEACTIVATE_BELTSLACK_DRIVER and DBPS_DEACTIVATE_BELTSLACK_PASSENGER. They change the following parameters from aktiv [01] to nicht_aktiv [00], respectively:
ACSM5 / 3203 PcComfortFct / cpGleTr1LEnb
ACSM5 / 3203 PcComfortFct / cpGleTr1REnb
Try coding cpGleTr1LEnb to nicht_aktiv [00] to see if it does what you are looking for. If it does not disable the automatic tensioner or gives you persistent errors or warnings in iDrive, code it back to aktiv [01]. (Coding anything in the ACSM module will usually give you some kind of a warning that goes away after a few minutes or after shutting the ignition off and turning it back on. But if the warning continues to show up, you should code it back.)
If you do this, can you please report back to this thread about the outcome?
ACSM5 / 3203 PcComfortFct / cpGleTr1LEnb
ACSM5 / 3203 PcComfortFct /cpGleTr1REnb
It takes ProTools in expert mode into the airbag module, but 100% works.
For those that want this "feature" turned off, this works.
Thank you so much, we just removed the ONLY thing my wife hates about her new G01.
jsh139
12-22-2024
BMW DIY Guy wroteWith that done, don't let her think just fastening the seat belt latch plate into the buckle finishes the job. If the car is no longer cinching up the belt automatically, she should pull on the belt to remove all slack herself. There is more to read/watch online.I can 100% confirm that this WORKS!!!!
ACSM5 / 3203 PcComfortFct / cpGleTr1LEnb
ACSM5 / 3203 PcComfortFct /cpGleTr1REnb
It takes ProTools in expert mode into the airbag module, but 100% works.
For those that want this "feature" turned off, this works.
Thank you so much, we just removed the ONLY thing my wife hates about her new G01.
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12-22-2024
Sportstick wroteI hear you and also respect the spirit of your feedback as well. Thank you for the concern.With that done, don't let her think just fastening the seat belt latch plate into the buckle finishes the job. If the car is no longer cinching up the belt automatically, she should pull on the belt to remove all slack herself. There is more to read/watch online.
Sportstick
12-23-2024
BMW DIY Guy wroteNo. I don’t disable safety devices.Howdy all!
Picking up our new to us G01 on Monday and I would love to find a way to disable the auto-synch of the seatbelt. I don't mind it much but it drives my wife insane, and its her car.. so motivated to kill that.
I searched but didnt find anything immediately, and would love to turn this off, code off, unplug the motor or who knows what on day one.
Thanks!
