[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by EWL5

If you're working w/dealers in the NorthEast, you're probably still paying MSRP and the 1% finance manager's markup on the APR (colluding b@st@rds!).

Haha true for some like my local dealer on LI. But not true for some others somewhat close by. I’ve found success with some CT dealers. Or even easier just use a broker if in the NE.

[dimag]

Originally Posted by Chitown_vroom

Just bought my first BMW this week! I had a picture of a BMW on my wall growing up as a pipe dream (I did not grow up in a family with any wealth at all) so it’s awesome to see one in my garage now.

2024 X3 m40i
$66,935 MSRP
-$4,016 in discounts and markdown
$62,919 Selling Price
$4541.35 total taxes (IL) & fees (had $1,995 Ceramic Coat they “put on all the cars” taken off though the product is on the vehicle)
-$10,500 trade value (up from initial $9.5k offer)
-$5,000 cash down
$52,085 financed (60 months @ 3.99% BMWFS promotional rate)

I declined all the extended warranties and other F&I goodies. I am maybe reconsidering doing a BMW extended warranty but may just set the equivalent cash aside and “self insure”.

I feel like I got a fair deal. Absolutely loving the X3 so far!!

HI Chitown_vroom,

Which dealer in IL did you use? Was it hard to negotiate with them?

[Chitown_vroom]

Originally Posted by dimag

HI Chitown_vroom,

Which dealer in IL did you use? Was it hard to negotiate with them?

Motorwerks in Barrington. They claim to not negotiate but I was able to negotiate my trade and removal of dealer add ons. I did it pretty much all over email and just went in to test drive and negotiate up the online price they offered for my trade.

Was easy to get them to drop the Ceramic Shield cost and they pretty easily gave me the extra 1k on the trade in I wanted. I had a good experience overall.

I would recommend using a site that will show you a market report and especially how long a car has been on their lot. Mine was like 35 days so they were probably more motivated to move it than something that just hit the lot. I used Caredge and bought a month of their premium service for like $6.

[glennbk]

Originally Posted by Chitown_vroom

Motorwerks in Barrington. They claim to not negotiate but I was able to negotiate my trade and removal of dealer add ons. I did it pretty much all over email and just went in to test drive and negotiate up the online price they offered for my trade.

Was easy to get them to drop the Ceramic Shield cost and they pretty easily gave me the extra 1k on the trade in I wanted. I had a good experience overall.

I would recommend using a site that will show you a market report and especially how long a car has been on their lot. Mine was like 35 days so they were probably more motivated to move it than something that just hit the lot. I used Caredge and bought a month of their premium service for like $6.

CarEdge yes. I used their negotiating template.

[Chitown_vroom]

Originally Posted by glennbk

CarEdge yes. I used their negotiating template.

Yes, I did use the email scripts too and sent requests out to several of the area dealers (I realize not everyone is fortunate enough to have many BMW dealer options within 30 mins of them!). If you can get people competing with each other, you will always end up better off!

[kraken]

Worked with a broker to get a deal done.

2024 X3 m40i
$67,720 MSRP
- 5,417.60 discount
- 1,500 Corporate fleet discount
$60,802.4 Selling Price plus taxes and fees.

Will be doing performance center delivery.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by kraken

Worked with a broker to get a deal done.

2024 X3 m40i
$67,720 MSRP
- 5,417.60 discount
- 1,500 Corporate fleet discount
$60,802.4 Selling Price plus taxes and fees.

Will be doing performance center delivery.

Sounds about right. Brokers have 8-8.5% pre incentives (fleet discount).

[Chitown_vroom]

Originally Posted by kraken

Worked with a broker to get a deal done.

2024 X3 m40i
$67,720 MSRP
- 5,417.60 discount
- 1,500 Corporate fleet discount
$60,802.4 Selling Price plus taxes and fees.

Will be doing performance center delivery.

Is this inclusive of the broker fee? If not, how much of this discount are you giving back to the broker as part of your “out the door” price?

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by Chitown_vroom

Is this inclusive of the broker fee? If not, how much of this discount are you giving back to the broker as part of your “out the door” price?

Brokers range is btw 500-700 so giving back about 1% of the discount

[TropikThunder]

Originally Posted by kraken

Worked with a broker to get a deal done.

2024 X3 m40i
$67,720 MSRP
- 5,417.60 discount
- 1,500 Corporate fleet discount
$60,802.4 Selling Price plus taxes and fees.

Will be doing performance center delivery.

Why do so many people post about the great deals they got and not mention who they used?

[Wanna3]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

Brokers range is btw 500-700 so giving back about 1% of the discount

10% of the discount, not 1%

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by Wanna3

10% of the discount, not 1%

Thanks for the math lesson but we typically talk about discounts relative to the cars msrp. This ~600 fee wipes away 1% of the 8% discount the from the posted deal.

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by kraken

Worked with a broker to get a deal done.

2024 X3 m40i
$67,720 MSRP
- 5,417.60 discount
- 1,500 Corporate fleet discount
$60,802.4 Selling Price plus taxes and fees.

Will be doing performance center delivery.

this is an appropriate price for X3 M40s... sadly it doesn't bode well for resale lol... i knew we'd be back in the good old days soon enough

[JoeyO]

When will BMW stop accepting X3 factory orders for the current 2024 G01? I’m assuming the next gen G45 will probably go into production during the summer time. I know nobody knows for certain, but what is everyone’s approximate guess for the cut off? March? April? May?

The reason I’m asking is because I’m not sure if I’ll like the G45. I’m waiting to see some official specs about it so I can make a decision. However if I hold out much longer, I may miss the cut-off end date for ordering a 2024 G01.

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by JoeyO

When will BMW stop accepting X3 factory orders for the current 2024 G01? I’m assuming the next gen G45 will probably go into production during the summer time. I know nobody knows for certain, but what is everyone’s approximate guess for the cut off? March? April? May?

The reason I’m asking is because I’m not sure if I’ll like the G45. I’m waiting to see some official specs about it so I can make a decision. However if I hold out much longer, I may miss the cut-off end date for ordering a 2024 G01.

I think you've already been told that the next gen X3 is going to be fairly buttonless. This is a fairly polarizing issue and should make your decision easier.

You can either get the final MY of the current gen w/most of the issues worked out (some folks may call the exterior outdated) or the first model year of a new gen that will most likely bring a host of issues. Did I mention the 30i gets a mild hybrid for the first time?

Over at mbworld, the GLC threads have become a triage for all the 48V battery issues!

[alex2364]

Originally Posted by JoeyO

When will BMW stop accepting X3 factory orders for the current 2024 G01? I’m assuming the next gen G45 will probably go into production during the summer time. I know nobody knows for certain, but what is everyone’s approximate guess for the cut off? March? April? May?

The reason I’m asking is because I’m not sure if I’ll like the G45. I’m waiting to see some official specs about it so I can make a decision. However if I hold out much longer, I may miss the cut-off end date for ordering a 2024 G01.

Best idea would be to ask a sales person at a dealer that specializes in factory orders. Most sales people just want to sell whatever they have in stock so make sure you talk to someone that does factory orders day to day.

[Ricochet48]

Helping my parents buy an X3 xDrive 30i (in cash) and am curious on what percent off MSRP is on the table (if any) these days.

A dealership has one in transit with most of the key specs they want (Brooklyn Gray, Tacora Red, Msport, Premium, HK, etc.). It landed much higher than I would expect at $61,320 delivered because it has almost every option (except the handling).

They still prefer the 30i that to the M40i as that's way too much power for them (but not for me haha as I plan to get a M240ix in Thundernight after the LCI).

Hoping to get a few % off MSRP as this one is so heavily optioned that many would just get a M40i instead, but honestly don't have a clue about the BWM SUV market in 2024.

Thanks!

[Plimmie]

I recently leased an X3 M40i with MSRP of $72670. Got it for the sale price of $66730

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by Ricochet48

Helping my parents buy an X3 xDrive 30i (in cash) and am curious on what percent off MSRP is on the table (if any) these days.

A dealership has one in transit with most of the key specs they want (Brooklyn Gray, Tacora Red, Msport, Premium, HK, etc.). It landed much higher than I would expect at $61,320 delivered because it has almost every option (except the handling).

They still prefer the 30i that to the M40i as that's way too much power for them (but not for me haha as I plan to get a M240ix in Thundernight after the LCI).

Hoping to get a few % off MSRP as this one is so heavily optioned that many would just get a M40i instead, but honestly don't have a clue about the BWM SUV market in 2024.

Thanks!

At least 8% BEFORE other bmw manufacturer incentives. Prob more given they will not be able to move a 61k 30i. Ask for 10 maybe even 12% plus the incentives from bmw.

But before you do that - in general I think this is a very bad idea if you care about resale at all. 61k for a 30i. That car will be worth 40k the second you drive it off the lot. No one will care about the extra options especially on the 30i. Please just tell them to get the m40i if these extras matter to them so much or get a lesser optioned 30i. You can drive the m40 the same way as the 30i and be none the wiser. Keep the 30i in the low / mid 50s with the discounts you’re buying it at 50k or under - if not get an m40’plz.

[Ricochet48]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

At least 8% BEFORE other bmw manufacturer incentives. Prob more given they will not be able to move a 61k 30i. Ask for 10 maybe even 12% plus the incentives from bmw.

But before you do that - in general I think this is a very bad idea if you care about resale at all. 61k for a 30i. That car will be worth 40k the second you drive it off the lot. No one will care about the extra options especially on the 30i. Please just tell them to get the m40i if these extras matter to them so much or get a lesser optioned 30i. You can drive the m40 the same way as the 30i and be none the wiser. Keep the 30i in the low / mid 50s with the discounts you’re buying it at 50k or under - if not get an m40’plz.

Thanks for the advice. 10% would be stellar. They honestly assumed MSRP as that's what they paid for their last two Benz's one bought in the heart of COVID and another a few months ago (which I strongly argued against). These cost 50% more than this BMW, which will be lightly used as a family car at the southern snowbird home.

I don't think they care about resale at all, more so just the looks and features (aside from power / handling). The Msport with Shadowline looks so much better, to me HK is a must, a hitch would be great for my bikes, and to get the pano sunroof you need the Convenience package. That puts you at $56K. The extra $5K mainly comes from the assist packages which might be nice for longer drives.

Comparatively, there's a M40i edition in our area with BG/TR with 28K miles on it for $56K. That doesn't seem like a steal to me to be honest (but it's only one comparison point).

$61K MSRP is also a hard pill to swallow as it's more than the fully spec'd M240ix I plan to buy (basically every option except the phone 'heater' and I prefer the Sensatic cognac vs. the leather).

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by Ricochet48

Thanks for the advice. 10% would be stellar. They honestly assumed MSRP as that's what they paid for their last two Benz's one bought in the heart of COVID and another a few months ago (which I strongly argued against). These cost 50% more than this BMW, which will be lightly used as a family car at the southern snowbird home.

I don't think they care about resale at all, more so just the looks and features (aside from power / handling). The Msport with Shadowline looks so much better, to me HK is a must, a hitch would be great for my bikes, and to get the pano sunroof you need the Convenience package. That puts you at $56K. The extra $5K mainly comes from the assist packages which might be nice for longer drives.

Comparatively, there's a M40i edition in our area with BG/TR with 28K miles on it for $56K. That doesn't seem like a steal to me to be honest (but it's only one comparison point).

$61K MSRP is also a hard pill to swallow as it's more than the fully spec'd M240ix I plan to buy (basically every option except the phone 'heater' and I prefer the Sensatic cognac vs. the leather).

That does not look like a good price for the used m40.

If they are going to hold the car for a long time then don’t worry so much about resale. Just go into knowing this dealer is going to have a VERY hard time moving a 61k x3 30i when m40s can be had for not much more. This was probably a customer order that backed away. No dealer would spec such an expensive 30i.

So ask for the world in this deal.

[Ricochet48]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

That does not look like a good price for the used m40.

If they are going to hold the car for a long time then don’t worry so much about resale. Just go into knowing this dealer is going to have a VERY hard time moving a 61k x3 30i when m40s can be had for not much more. This was probably a customer order that backed away. No dealer would spec such an expensive 30i.

So ask for the world in this deal.

Leaning away from the $61K option, but will attempt to push for 10%. I also thought it was a wild custom order someone backed out on.

Found a loaner X3 with the gray/red/msport combo with 13K miles on it. They offered $50,500 (would be CPO). Meh deal to me, but probably could negotiate a bit more than the new model.

For another new X3 with that combo they offered 5% off and said no negotiating. It would land at $55K as it's less highly optioned. Also meh.

They claimed the new version would not be out until this time next year. I said I thought it would be earlier as they were producing them starting in August. Regardless my parents would NOT want the new version with more touchscreen. It's already complicated enough for them haha.