[B_M_VV]

Is distance a factor? Delivery charge is flat at $995, but the real cost to transport the car from BMW plant in SC to different dealerships varies a lot.

Of course level of competition is still maybe the No.1 factor I think, which explains why SoCal dealerships give good discount.

[XGoober]

Originally Posted by b.guggenmos

Hello XGoober, I have been going through the purchase process for an X3M40I from Olympia. I first went BMW NW and had a good experience. They still do Costco. I then tried Seattle, Spokane and Medford. They all play different games with the discounts and would tell me conquest, dealer discount...it got so confusing i asked for the out the door price. Got that from BMW NW. I then gave that number to the other three dealers to beat it. They could not. All talk until pinning them down. We do not seem to get the discounts of the East coast. If I could find an in stock unit I might be able to save but again nothing on the West coast. For me this is an expensive car so I want to order. You might find something in California? I kind of got tired of the chase and will order at bmw nw. Enjoy your hunt!

Thanks! I have not been to NW yet but I was planning to check them out. If you have a good contact there I would love to know. Might help move things along. Good luck with your purchase!

[XGoober]

Originally Posted by B_M_VV

Is distance a factor? Delivery charge is flat at $995, but the real cost to transport the car from BMW plant in SC to different dealerships varies a lot.

Of course level of competition is still maybe the No.1 factor I think, which explains why SoCal dealerships give good discount.

I was assuming that if I leased from a dealer in say SoCal, my car would have to be delivered to that dealer and I would either pick it up there in person or arrange to have it shipped at my expense from there.

I think it is safe to say that my local dealers would not be terribly interested in taking delivery of a car purchased from another dealer :-)

[240SXFAN]

Originally Posted by XGoober

If anyone here has done this I would love some feedback on how it might work:

I have been reading comments here and there suggesting dealers in my area (Seattle) can be difficult to work with on price. If I were to get a much better price out of state, how would that work for registration, etc.?

Ideally it would be close enough for me to fly there and drive home but I might have to ship it, which could also impact the process?

Any tips?

The out of state dealer should be able to process your state's registration. They usually contract it through third parties, but it works similar to you registering in your own state except may be a tad longer.
Expect to do some work though in the form of VIN verification etc., that may require you to take your vehicle to DMV depending on your state's laws and mailing the paperwork back for registration to process.

If you are shipping it from the dealer, expect anywhere between $500 to $1500 depending on distance, for an open trailer. Covered trailers usually cost a bit more.

Hope this helps.

[XGoober]

Thanks all. Hopefully I'll be able to reach an acceptable deal locally. Knowing my options may even help that along. I like the M40i enough to go the extra mile to find a workable deal if necessary. Fingers crossed!

[Hispeed4fun]

Originally Posted by A1723

Agreed.

I am going to finance it. 0 down. In order to keep bmw promotions I will go with bmwfs. Do not care about their rates as I am going to refinance it within a month with my CU.

Not sure, what else is missing from my explanation.

I am not considering my deal the best one. However, I hope it will show people from DC area some idea of discounts from custom order they can get.

If you are giving an idea of the deal then rates do matter. I dont think many are just gonna take what they give then refi after. The only thing i have heard of is people paying off after getting a deal but not a refi.

[shadowler]

Just picked mine up last night

MSRP: $60,995.00
Lease Term: 36/10k
RV: 59%
MF: 00188
Initial Cap Cost: $54,000
Conquest Rebate: $1000

Monthly after tax: $724

[psuibmw]

Originally Posted by shadowler

Just picked mine up last night

MSRP: $60,995.00
Lease Term: 36/10k
RV: 59%
MF: 00188
Initial Cap Cost: $54,000
Conquest Rebate: $1000

Monthly after tax: $724

[MrSmileyDC]

Originally Posted by jpnwdc

I live in DC. One dealer quoted 7% off before incentives. Incentives are $2000 rebate if you finance with BMSFS. There is an additional $1000 conquest (I currently have an Audi Q5). I also joined BMWCCA which will give another $500 rebate. I do think the dealer should be able to do better than 7% before rebates.

Which dealer and SA? Debating getting a new one vs an older used one since dealers seems to want a premium for 2nd gen models.

[jpnwdc]

Alexandria.

[MrSmileyDC]

Originally Posted by jpnwdc

Alexandria.

Thanks. Passport has some listed on there website for more off. I just don't know if the listed price includes incentives or not.

[b.guggenmos]

Originally Posted by XGoober

Thanks! I have not been to NW yet but I was planning to check them out. If you have a good contact there I would love to know. Might help move things along. Good luck with your purchase!

Kyle Harrell and Will Sheen are two people I have worked with. Nice dealer that is still family owned and the owner is actually there!

[XGoober]

I have seen a lot of posts here suggesting dealers should be able to do better than X% off MSRP before incentives. I'm wondering where this comes from. Invoice seems to be somewhere around 6% below MSRP. Now I know dealers also get bonus money from BMW depending on how many cars they sell each month. But how much per car?

My question is at what point does a dealer truly not make money on a deal? Where else are they making their money?

I guess they get some kickback from the financing? How about if they are not marking up the MF on a lease - do they still get money from finance for that?

I just want to be as prepared as possible for the inevitable BS I'm likely to be fed while trying to finalize pricing...

[XGoober]

Originally Posted by b.guggenmos

Kyle Harrell and Will Sheen are two people I have worked with. Nice dealer that is still family owned and the owner is actually there!

Excellent! Thanks a lot!

[B_M_VV]

Originally Posted by XGoober

I have seen a lot of posts here suggesting dealers should be able to do better than X% off MSRP before incentives. I'm wondering where this comes from. Invoice seems to be somewhere around 6% below MSRP. Now I know dealers also get bonus money from BMW depending on how many cars they sell each month. But how much per car?

My question is at what point does a dealer truly not make money on a deal? Where else are they making their money?

I guess they get some kickback from the financing? How about if they are not marking up the MF on a lease - do they still get money from finance for that?

I just want to be as prepared as possible for the inevitable BS I'm likely to be fed while trying to finalize pricing...

Maybe you can take a look of this article. For reference only.

http://www.realcartips.com/newcars/1...ke-money.shtml

[MrSmileyDC]

Any word on February promotions?

[CINCYFAN]

Originally Posted by BimmerGuyDC

Thanks. Passport has some listed on there website for more off. I just don't know if the listed price includes incentives or not.

I was working with Sterling and Passport late last year when I was deciding between the X3 I ordered (@ Sterling) and one similarly equipped but priced significantly lower (@ Passport). Passport's online prices are higher now than they were in late December (no surprise) and I was told at the time that their pricing included all incentives. Check the fine print though - the highly discounted price doesn't include destination or at least it didn't in December.

Passport had a nicely equipped black/cognac that I almost bought but Sterling ended up offering the same percentage discount so going with the X3 I ordered was an easy decision. I just checked the Passport website and the same X3 is still there and is now almost $8k more. I guess it's Feb. 1 though.

Good luck....

[XGoober]

Originally Posted by B_M_VV

Maybe you can take a look of this article. For reference only.

http://www.realcartips.com/newcars/1...ke-money.shtml

Thanks for that. Interesting, if a little vague on details. I guess those are closely guarded :-)

Anyone have anything more specific about BMW?

One question that has really been banging around in my noggin is how are excess miles handled at the end of a lease? I know there is a per-mile charge per the lease terms, but I'm wondering if a dealer has the option to waive that at no cost to them. On my last lease termination my dealer did waive the excess miles but there was some equity in the car so for all I know the dealer just paid the mileage fee to BMW. I would love to know exactly how that works though....

[jpnwdc]

I heard the BMWFS rebate for purchase (not lease) went up to $2500 for February.

[MrSmileyDC]

Originally Posted by jpnwdc

I heard the BMWFS rebate for purchase (not lease) went up to $2500 for February.

Yes. I confirmed with a couple dealers. I also heard loyalty is still $1500. Must go through BMWFS.

[jpnwdc]

Originally Posted by BimmerGuyDC

Yes. I confirmed with a couple dealers. I also heard loyalty is still $1500. Must go through BMWFS.

As a current Audi lessee I would also get $1000 conquest.

[Jason]

February 2019 lease rates updated @ https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1541153