11-03-2011, 02:20 PM | #1 |
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is M Sport a poser car?
I know this has been discussed in threads before, but I thought I would ask the question again, knowing that owners of the M Sport will say no, and owners of true Ms will probably say yes.
I have owned 2 Ms before and currently own an AMG, and like everyone else I have seen TRUE poser cars out in the wild, you know that old 318 with the emblem taken off and the M3 added, or people who don't even bother to do that and just stick the M emblem next to the 3XX emblem, I ended up getting the package with my X3 because I like the trim better and the M steering wheel is so nice. To me a poser car is one that wants people to think its something that it isn't and I don't think M Sport cars qualify as that. No where on the outside of M Sport cars does it say M (well not yet, hopefully BMW doesn't ever do that, like S-Line). anything that does say "M" on the car have every right to do so because its an M part, like the M Wheels or Steering wheel. Not a huge fan of the floor panels as I don't see the need for that, but oh well. Now I would never add an M Emblem, but is adding an M Vinyl window sticker (small one in corner of rear window) going too far? to me its showing that I am a fan of the M Division, not trying to say my car is an M, but I guess it could be viewed that way... BMW is going to continue to push the "M Sport" packages because they are huge margin items for them, but as long as they keep it under control by just using some M Parts and not saying M anything on the outside I am fine with it, what about you guys/gals? |
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I have the MSport pkg by choice. I got it especially as I much prefer the exterior look of the car with the pkg, particularly the front and rear views. I also appreciate the steering wheel and the sport seats.
I owned an E90 M3 sedan a while ago. A true "M" car, that. I have no wish to see M badges on the exterior of my X3, but in all honesty, I am well past worrying about what ppl think of my car. If some want to say an MSport pkg makes for a poser car, that's their choice. I do think those that judge ppl on such items are shallow and immature. I like my X3 35i MSport exactly the way it is. What others say, I could care less.
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I hate to knock the non M-sports, but I think all that black plastic running along the bottom of the vehicle just doesn't look quite right.. |
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11-03-2011, 02:47 PM | #6 |
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Mako, you seem confused - I wouldnt worry what people think
Msport with or without badges is fine by me, they look better if original bmw badges rather than aftermarket (stickers might be going too far )
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I would prefer SE with painted plastic but not msport trim
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and when I say sticker, its a small simple/classy M logo sticker, not anything screaming "look at me", since I already have an extra one I will put it on, post pictures and put it to a vote, if its shot down I will remove it I am the guy who puts a jack skellington decal on my rear passenger window in October or the alien head on my sunroof, as my 2 year old says "because I want to" |
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We have 2 x 2011 40d X5 facelift on fleet, 1x msport= no plastic trim, 1x SE= trim same as SE X3
Your sticker sounds fine
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Personal choice.. I've come from an M3, but I prefer the looks of the M package on the X3
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The 30d and 35d would more suit the msport than 20d possibly? Buying aF25 tomorrow and the msport would be considered after ticking the 30d box
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My ideal setup would be a little bit of both. Particularly like the front of the M Sport and quite like the back although it makes the car look narrower IMO. The sides are my problem. The X3 has quite small wheels and you effectively lower the side profile by colouring the plastic (especially on light colours). I much prefer the side profile of the SE and the fact it makes the wheels look bigger and the car more aggressive. The sculpted lines are more prominent too because of the angle that's created. The X5 M Sport looks are much better IMO, particularly the back. Also I think the black plastic is designed like that as its supposed to be a rugged car that you'd get dirty -it's done to be pragmatic not to save money. Just my thoughts and it's all very subjective.
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yes...M package is poser. All dressed up and no place to go.
Not really saying its ugly...but its really saying to can't afford the real M cars. Although I like the M looks and don't buy them for that reason alone. |
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M package and M is completely different. They don't even look remotely the same. M-Sport contains options to make the car look sporty such as Shadowline, anthracite roof lining, sport seats and steering wheel.
Putting a M badge on a non-M BMW where the model designation is a poser. If someone's a poser for buying a package for the looks, I am poser for having x-line on my X3 (usually love the M-sport but liked the rugged look for the family car ). May be putting an AMG badge on my 1M will make me a poser.
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To me it's an empty codpiece. There's the promise of something more but no delivery. If it had 400hp we might be talking.
As to the plastic trim - I couldn't care less - it's a truck after all not a sports car. |
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It just gives car wash attendants more paint to swirl. With this environmentally friendly water-based paint, I wouldn't be willing to take any more chances. God forbid my car looked like it had BMW signature camouflage tape plastered all over it...
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Judd, did you watch the National Geographic show on the X3? When it showed the painting process, to me, it looked like they figured out a way to cut corners and labeled it being "environmentally friendly". They eliminated 3 stages of the paint process and use the equivalent of 1 gallon of paint for an entire X3. They said they came up with the new process to prevent "bottlenecking" that was happening at the paint station when the X3 was added to the production line. They said they had to figure out a way to make the process faster to push more vehicles through the line. After seeing the show, I feel now I know why BMW paint sucks. It is by far the worst paint of any vehicle I've ever owned from Acura's to Nissan's.
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I don't think its poser unless you put the //M badge on the car. The little //M on the steering wheel and the wheels should be suffice. Anything over would make it poser. That being said the M sport pkg is more than just the logo... the fact is that it gets you a sportier steering wheel (although I am not sure is it still heated?), sport seats and exterior differences makes it a legit package. Its not like you are calling it a X3M and its not like you are gloating that the //M pkg makes it faster. Like said earlier its subjective and depends on taste. Stop worrying and enjoy your X3.
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I think the real question here is if BMW is diluting the M designation by using the term M Sport. Like others have said, there is no M emblem anywhere on the exterior of the car, but there are questionable M symbols on the door sills and steering wheel.
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