This cannot be true, X3 has the least rear legroom sspace to its main competitors, smaller than the Lexus NX and Evoque? I thought they increased the wheel base for this reason? What am I missing?

X4guy wrote

This cannot be true, X3 has the least rear space to its main competitors, smaller than the Lexus NX and Evoque? I thought they increased the wheel base for this reason? What am I missing?

I don't know about the NX and Evoque, but here's a good overview from Car and Driver. It was second in its class only to the Cadillac (though the cars you mention are not compared here because they look to be a class down).

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2018-bmw-x3-in-depth-model-review-2018-bmw-x3-cargo-space-and-storage-review-car-and-driver-page-7

Compare that to C&D review of the NX, the M40i gets 8/20 pieces of luggage to the NX's 8/18. Plus you don't have to drive a fugly NX

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-lexus-nx-in-depth-model-review-2017-lexus-nx-cargo-space-and-storage-review-car-and-driver-page-7

Oh, I see the graphic now. For some reason I thought you meant rear cargo space.

The issue is there's not a standardized way of measuring interior dimensions. There are countless other threads on various forums where people question how their own vehicle can have a specified measurement when they beg to differ.

The worst stretches are in cargo volume, but measurements across the board are often stretched.

https://www.cars.com/articles/2014/03/why-cargo-specs-can-stretch-the-truth/
https://www.cars.com/articles/cargo-specs-be-careful-what-you-compare-1420696442243/

RCtennis3811 wrote

The issue is there's not a standardized way of measuring interior dimensions. There are countless other threads on various forums where people question how their own vehicle can have a specified measurement when they beg to differ.

The worst stretches are in cargo volume, but measurements across the board are often stretched.

https://www.cars.com/articles/2014/03/why-cargo-specs-can-stretch-the-truth/
https://www.cars.com/articles/cargo-specs-be-careful-what-you-compare-1420696442243/

Very interesting....

Go to 8:13 (Somewhere in the video it says the Volvo has the smallest boot/cargo space.)

fxoffroad wrote

Go to 8:13 (Somewhere in the video it says the Volvo has the smallest boot/cargo space.)

Just edited the header, was referring to the rear legroom

Going forward, it'd be good if you posted the source.

X4guy wrote

Just edited the header, was referring to the rear legroom

which references the X1: @ https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-lexus-nx-in-depth-model-review-2017-lexus-nx-cargo-space-and-storage-review-car-and-driver-page-7

fxoffroad wrote

Going forward, it'd be good if you posted the source.





which references the X1: @ https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-lexus-nx-in-depth-model-review-2017-lexus-nx-cargo-space-and-storage-review-car-and-driver-page-7

What you have attached is cargo room, talking about legroom. Source is alexonauto review, did screen shot from the Q5 video as pic attached. I find his reviews credible, in-depth than other reviewers.

Check new Q5 review from 4:40.
Check x3 review from 4:16

X4guy wrote

I find his reviews credible, in-depth than other reviewers.

While his covered more detail than others, he borked some of the options/features. One that comes to mind is where he said something like, "these are LED highbeams", on an x30i without the Executive Package. His were halogens, not LEDs. He was also oddly concerned about cleaning dust off the instrument cluster, like it would be difficult. It's not -- a light vacuuming followed by something like a swiffer should obliterate all dust (heck, for most people, a swiffer alone would be enough).

It would have been nice if he'd gone into more detail about the differences between the packages/options, but I'm not sure any of the other reviewers did either.

darrylo wrote

One that comes to mind is where he said something like, "these are LED highbeams", on an x30i without the Executive Package. His were halogens, not LEDs.

I have the middle-tier headlights like the ones in that review and the high beams are LED. I believe only X3s optioned with no tier (and thus the base headlights) have halogen high beams. The IIHS info for the G01 seems to confirm this.

razorhogs wrote

I have the middle-tier headlights like the ones in that review and the high beams are LED. I believe only X3s optioned with no tier (and thus the base headlights) have halogen high beams. The IIHS info for the G01 seems to confirm this.

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

Totally true, compared to the F25 X3, the rear height and leg room is pathetic.
Even the X1 has better leg room, just typical BMW cost cutting deisgners

I've found the legroom better than expected, I had a couple of days overlap with my old E70 and was surprised to find X3 gave approx 2 inches more room in 2nd row

Before ordering X3 I looked at XC60 and RR Velar

XC60 was great for 2 rear passengers but seats are shaped and very cramped for a 3rd in the middle, in Velar you seemed to sit lower in back and again there was a lump in the seat base in middle position for 3rd person to sit on

X3, much like the X5 is a flatish bench so can easily fit 3 across which none of these sort of figures take into account

sharpharp wrote

Totally true, compared to the F25 X3, the rear height and leg room is pathetic.
Even the X1 has better leg room, just typical BMW cost cutting deisgners

Share the numbers

X4guy wrote

sharpharp wrote

Totally true, compared to the F25 X3, the rear height and leg room is pathetic.
Even the X1 has better leg room, just typical BMW cost cutting deisgners

Share the numbers

got these snaps from www.car.info

no rear leg measurements on the older models, but rear height appears to be exactly the same.

I couldn't find numbers for x1 legroom, but it does have slightly more headroom than the x3.