Wireless Charger

langn08 · 05-25-2020, 01:36 PM

After some searching it seemed to be a mixed bag on aftermarket/OEM wireless chargers. Thought it was worth the $60 to try the Amazon CarQi charging pad and "installed" today. Seems to charge my IPhone 11 just fine. I'll update if it shits out down the road..

Warfie9 · 01-31-2021, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by langn08

After some searching it seemed to be a mixed bag on aftermarket/OEM wireless chargers. Thought it was worth the $60 to try the Amazon CarQi charging pad and "installed" today. Seems to charge my IPhone 11 just fine. I'll update if it shits out down the road..

Hello, I'm looking at getting this same charger for my X3. How has it been working for you? Thanks for the help!

langn08 · 01-31-2021, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by langn08

After some searching it seemed to be a mixed bag on aftermarket/OEM wireless chargers. Thought it was worth the $60 to try the Amazon CarQi charging pad and "installed" today. Seems to charge my IPhone 11 just fine. I'll update if it shits out down the road..

Hello, I'm looking at getting this same charger for my X3. How has it been working for you? Thanks for the help!

Still working great!

Warfie9 · 01-31-2021, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by langn08

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Originally Posted by langn08

After some searching it seemed to be a mixed bag on aftermarket/OEM wireless chargers. Thought it was worth the $60 to try the Amazon CarQi charging pad and "installed" today. Seems to charge my IPhone 11 just fine. I'll update if it shits out down the road..

Hello, I'm looking at getting this same charger for my X3. How has it been working for you? Thanks for the help!

Still working great!

Right on, thanks for the reply!

Maestro · 02-01-2021, 10:22 AM

Folks, here is what I found out about these charging mats in the storage tray. These mats can plug into either the USB-A port or the 12volt Aux Socket. Depending on which port your mat plugs into will make a large difference in whether you can charge and use the phone or just charge it.

Using the USB-A port the charging mat is limited to about 5W to 7.5W (BMW cliams this port support 1.4amps) depending on phone and how well you can align the coils. Especially for the new Iphones if you're only charging at 5W this is just enough to charge the battery or maintaining the battery if you are using maps and streaming content. The charging will be very slow. If you have a run down battery and you are trying to get it to a usable level in a short period of time these USB-A mats will not do the job especially if you are using the phone at the same time,

In order to get to the higher level of charging you need a Pad that plugs into the 12V Aux Socket. These pads run from $89 to $120 and they are not all the same, they look the same and boast various features. They claim to be anywhere from 10W to 30W chargers. Again it depend on the phone, Iphone can only use 15W to fast charge the phone and this is only guarantee for magsafe charging pads on the Iphone 12. All their other phones will charge at 7.5W on a mat like this. These mats should not have a problem charging the phone and running it at the same time. Some of these mats have other USB-A and USB-C ports on them which is where their claim about being 20W or 30W come from but the wireless pad can only deliver between 7.5W for iphones and up to 15 on some Samsung phones. The only downside, is these mats cover the slot between the two cup holders so you can not use handle mug and the charging pad.

Lastly, if you need to make sure your phone stays charged and able use it while driving it is best to use the USB-C ports. On the Iphone you will need a MFI USB-C to Lightening cable and this will charge your phone at the fastest rate the phone supports. If it is not MFI, the iphones default to the slowest charging rate.

I hope this help, since I spent a couple of hours this weekend sorting this out when I found out we did get the wireless pad on our new X3 and found out its a $500 option from BMW. The couple of X3's we test drove all had the mat and we thought it was standard not realizing it was option.

753951 · 02-01-2021, 10:53 AM

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I hope this help, since I spent a couple of hours this weekend shorting this out when I found out we did get the wireless pad on our new X3 and found out its a $500 option from BMW. the couple of X3's we test drove all have the mat and we thought it was standard not realizing it was option.

Now the $500 question. Is BMW OEM wireless charger equivalent of USB-A, USB-C or 12V charger mat? I would think/hope the later one, but many report its abysmal charging speed.

Maestro · 02-01-2021, 11:34 AM

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Now the $500 question. Is BMW OEM wireless charger equivalent of USB-A, USB-C or 12V charger mat? I would think/hope the later one, but many report its abysmal charging speed.

Yes good question, The best I have been able to determine based on the design and how it is fitted and some of the complaint it is running from the USB-A port.

Saejin · 02-01-2021, 02:05 PM

Wireless charging and running apps like music or active nav causes the iPhone at least to overheat. Best to use wired charging.

Running Waze alone is fine if you're not also navigating with it. I haven't tried using the new MagSafe apple chargers to see if they suffer from the same heat issue.

clivem2 · 02-01-2021, 02:23 PM

Is it just me but...wireless charging is very inefficient, it came about to allow charging when the phone isn’t in use. We then beef up the charging current and run heavy apps on the phone. Isn’t this what wired charging does better?

Big_CG · 02-01-2021, 03:00 PM

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Is it just me but...wireless charging is very inefficient, it came about to allow charging when the phone isn’t in use. We then beef up the charging current and run heavy apps on the phone. Isn’t this what wired charging does better?

Its not about charging efficiency with wireless. The charging pad in the OP is powered by the usb plug, which is very low amp. It would take 6 hours to charge the phone. There is no point in even installing it. The only one that is worth it is the 12V high power fast charging wireless mat. I bought one, it fully recharges in 1.5 hour.

clivem2 · 02-01-2021, 03:08 PM

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Its not about charging efficiency with wireless. The charging pad in the OP is powered by the usb plug, which is very low amp. It would take 6 hours to charge the phone. There is no point in even installing it. The only one that is worth it is the 12V high power fast charging wireless mat. I bought one, it fully recharges in 1.5 hour.

I wonder how much current (actually power in W) the fast wireless charger uses vs a wired charger.

https://debugger.medium.com/wireless...n-48afdde70ed9

Big_CG · 02-01-2021, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by clivem2

I wonder how much current (actually power in W) the fast wireless charger uses vs a wired charger.

https://debugger.medium.com/wireless...n-48afdde70ed9

Certainly efficiency isn't the strong suit here- but ditching a messy cable that clutters up your center console is well worth it and the perfect application of the technology.

Maestro · 02-01-2021, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by clivem2

I wonder how much current (actually power in W) the fast wireless charger uses vs a wired charger.

https://debugger.medium.com/wireless...n-48afdde70ed9

Yes everything is true it not very efficient, imagine if everything went wireless charging which is something being talked about that mean even more waste of power. The US is having a hard time keeping up generating enough power, wait for all cars to be electric and there is not enough power to charge you car because half the energy is wasted trying to charge your electronics.

This is about convenience and not having to deal with cables and Apple would like to remove all ports on the phone if they could.

JJ 911SC · 02-01-2021, 06:29 PM

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... The only one that is worth it is the 12V high power fast charging wireless mat...

For sure...

JSY · 02-01-2021, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

For sure...

Is that compatible only with those who do not have the factory installed wireless charger? I have the wireless charger option but really only got it because I wanted the Enhanced BT, but I would love to be able to install one of these to get fast charging for reasons everyone has stated about the slow charging.

I was looking at Amazon and some of the ones there seemed to imply that it fits over the factory installed wireless charging but I'm skeptical since that would make it so snug for the phone I'm guessing.

Bimma30 · 02-01-2021, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

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Originally Posted by Big_CG

... The only one that is worth it is the 12V high power fast charging wireless mat...

For sure...

Can you please send the link to the wireless charger that you have in your vehicle. Thanks

JJ 911SC · 02-02-2021, 03:41 AM

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Can you please send the link to the wireless charger that you have in your vehicle. Thanks

There is a few versions on both Amazon & AliExpress.

Mine is at the AliExpress link (also has an X4 version). It keep charging when the SAV is turn off.

Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/FIILINES-Wire...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

AliExpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000...27424c4deX6cOe

JJ 911SC · 02-02-2021, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JSY

Is that compatible only with those who do not have the factory installed wireless charger? I have the wireless charger option but really only got it because I wanted the Enhanced BT, but I would love to be able to install one of these to get fast charging for reasons everyone has stated about the slow charging.

I was looking at Amazon and some of the ones there seemed to imply that it fits over the factory installed wireless charging but I'm skeptical since that would make it so snug for the phone I'm guessing.

I did not had a charger fitted so I could not tell you. Ask the question and you probably get an answer fast.

Seem that a lot of members (other threads) are not happy whit the BMW version

Maestro · 02-02-2021, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

There is a few versions on both Amazon & AliExpress.

Mine is at the AliExpress link (also has an X4 version). It keep charging when the SAV is turn off.

Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/FIILINES-Wire...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

AliExpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000...27424c4deX6cOe

The one's you found are a nicer design I have seen for a reasonable cost. The problem, it take almost 2 months to get.

Amazon has so many under a different names which most are same knockoff design its hard to tell which one is actually good. The one you found says 15W which make sense even though not Iphone will charge at 15W only 7.5. Some Samsung phones will charge at 10W or 13W I believe is the high end for them.

JJ 911SC · 02-02-2021, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Maestro

The one's you found are a nicer design I have seen for a reasonable cost. The problem, it take almost 2 months to get.

When I order it, Amazon.ca had the same model for just about twice the price with about the same delivery range, obviously it came from the same factory. For order time to delivery was 28 days: 10 Days to make it to Vancouver and 18 Days from Vancouver to Ottawa, mainly 12 days @ custom

It's the looking one that I've seem and it fit very well.

Sbmx3 · 10-30-2021, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

There is a few versions on both Amazon & AliExpress.

Mine is at the AliExpress link (also has an X4 version). It keep charging when the SAV is turn off.

Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/FIILINES-Wire...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

AliExpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000...27424c4deX6cOe

Are they compatible with the bmw X3 2022?

JJ 911SC · 10-30-2021, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sbmx3

Are they compatible with the bmw X3 2022?

I removed it (the one fm AliExpress) from my 2020 and it fit the 2022 like a glove.

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