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      03-03-2020, 02:43 PM   #1
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Near the end of the Concept i4 press release, it is stated that the iX3 is not scheduled for sale in the US:

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1699959

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The BMW iX3 (not currently planned for the U.S. market) due to go into production in 2020 will lead the way in the application of the new tech, which will be introduced in a number of electrically powered BMW vehicles – such as the BMW iNEXT and BMW i4.
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Near the end of the Concept i4 press release, it is stated that the iX3 is not scheduled for sale in the US:

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1699959

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The BMW iX3 (not currently planned for the U.S. market) due to go into production in 2020 will lead the way in the application of the new tech, which will be introduced in a number of electrically powered BMW vehicles – such as the BMW iNEXT and BMW i4.
WHAT DA F***?! Doesn't BMW know SUVs will sell like candies in US?! Everyone and their mom would buy an electric Bimmer SUV in Cali!
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WHAT DA F***?! Doesn't BMW know SUVs will sell like candies in US?! Everyone and their mom would buy an electric Bimmer SUV in Cali!
Even if it was RWD only?
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Even if it was RWD only?
I think this is the issue. BMW is smart to wait until they're ready to offer a EV SUV with AWD.
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WHAT DA F***?! Doesn't BMW know SUVs will sell like candies in US?! Everyone and their mom would buy an electric Bimmer SUV in Cali!
Doesn't seem to be working for Audi or Jaguar, a RWD only electric BMW (and it'll be priced like a BMW) with a small amount of range won't fair well against the Model Y which is beginning deliveries this month.
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      03-07-2020, 10:39 AM   #6
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I think this is the issue. BMW is smart to wait until they're ready to offer a EV SUV with AWD.
I also think that's one of the major issues but perhaps not the only one: additional drag from full time AWD system, decreased range, more testing required in colder US geographies.
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Could BMW be seeing it as a competitor for the iNext, also? Plus, it's China production. Perhaps the uncertainty in tariffs says to wait for a Spartanburg model. All the press release says it's a LWB X3 chassis--more crash testing needed? China and Europe might? take full factory output without having to bother with USA recertification.
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      03-07-2020, 12:11 PM   #8
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I get that all you true Bimmer fans and car lovers hate RWD, but honestly here in SoCal no one cares about AWD, or let me correct myself, it's absolutely not necessary. Price set right, I would be the first person to get an electric RWD SUV Bimmer. But price is the key here. The only reason that Audi/Jaguar are not able to sell and compete with Tesla is that they are late into the game, offer much less range, don't have any of the "autopilot" features of TSLA (however buggy and beta level it might be) and are priced much higher! So of course no one would buy them! You have to have at least something comparable.

Yes, iX3 will have at best 300 miles of range which is not enough for many but it is double our current i3 and would fit our needs perfectly. I consider myself a Bimmer fan who will never go back to ICE after having i3 but sadly BMW has no replacement to offer me after i3 so my only choice is to go with Model Y... but if iX3 was offered in US, with all its flaws, I would get it in a heartbeat if the price was comparable to Model Y...
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I get that all you true Bimmer fans and car lovers hate RWD, but honestly here is SoCal no one cares about AWD, or let me correct myself, it's absolutely not necessary. Price set right, I would be the first person to get an electric RWD SUV Bimmer. But price is the key here. The only reason that Audi/Jaguar are not able to sell and compete with Tesla is that they are late into the game, offer much less range, don't have any of the "autopilot" features of TSLA (however buggy and beta level it might be) and are priced much higher! So of course no one would buy them! You have to have at least something comparable.

Yes, iX3 will have at best 300 miles of range which is not enough for many but it is double our current i3 and would fit our needs perfectly. I consider myself a Bimmer fan who will never go back to ICE after having i3 but sadly BMW has no replacement to offer me after i3 so my only choice is to go with Model Y... but if iX3 was offered in US, with all its flaws, I would get it in a heartbeat if the price was comparable to Model Y...
I'm not sure where you are getting the "300 miles of range" from. The concept has a range of 249 miles (400km) and that is on the WLTP which is optimistic, so lets say, around 210-220 miles EPA. Also, the iX3 suffers from the same issues that you mentioned for the E-Tron and I-Pace. As for price, that's one factor we won't know, however, even still, I doubt it would be cheaper than a Model Y.

I honestly think the i4 is the BMW EV to wait for, the iX3 just isn't competitive enough.
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I really hope it would be more expensive than a Model Y. Else it would be regarded as crap. I've had a TMS 4 years myself. I've only had it for long because there has been no other alternative and I really hate it. Also have an i-Pace. The Jag feels alot more modern than the S. I believe any BMW would be like the Jag. All about driving experience. The S is cheap materials and feels wobbly on the road. No BMW would be like that. If you like Toyota, you'll like the TMY. That's quantum VS quality. I don't really care what you get. For me, the TMS was a big mistake.
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Doesn't seem to be working for Audi or Jaguar, a RWD only electric BMW (and it'll be priced like a BMW) with a small amount of range won't fair well against the Model Y which is beginning deliveries this month.
Agreed.
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https://www.autonews.com/sales/finic...s-crossover-ev

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BMW has iced plans to bring its first electric crossover to the U.S. for now. The BMW iX3 was scheduled to arrive in the first half of 2021.

"At this time we do not have plans to bring the iX3 to the U.S. market," a spokesman confirmed to Automotive News, declining to elaborate on the reasons for the decision.

BMW, like its German rival Mercedes-Benz, is grappling with the realization that the world's second-largest auto market remains half-hearted in its embrace of electric vehicles. Despite their proclamations of interest in battery-powered vehicles, few automakers other than Tesla have made much traction in the U.S. market with EVs.

Complicating their calculations, regulatory pressures in Europe and China are creating urgent need for EVs in those markets. Automakers face hefty fines in Europe next year if they fail to cut their fleet CO2 emissions to an average 95 grams per kilometer.

As a result, the German automakers are recalibrating their EV ambitions in the U.S. — diverting production supply to markets that are more receptive to the new technology, and biding their time for America's interest to kindle.

In December, Mercedes-Benz told dealers it would delay the U.S. launch of its EQC electric crossover by at least a year, pushing it to 2021. Mercedes pinned the decision on strong demand for the EQC in Europe.

"We had to make a little bit of a tough choice," Daimler CEO Ola Källenius told reporters in January at CES in Las Vegas. "Demand [from Europe] by far outstrips supply, even though we are ramping up and adding additional battery lines to the production."

In late January, BMW informed dealers at a meeting in Boca Raton, Fla., of its decision to not introduce the iX3 in the United States next year.

The crossover is an electric version of the brand's best-selling vehicle, the X3. BMW sold 70,110 X3s in the U.S. last year, up 14 percent from 2018. With the iX3, the X3 will become BMW's first model available with a conventional combustion engine, a plug-in hybrid or a pure electric system.


The U.S. launch of Mercedes’ EQC electric crossover was delayed until at least 2021.
But the planned EV was shaping up to be an underperformer in the U.S. An EPA estimate of the iX3's driving range has not been disclosed. Unless the vehicle has a range of at least 300 miles, "it's not worth bringing to the table," said one retailer who asked not to be identified.

That is not a given with the new product.

Manufactured in China, the iX3 is powered by a 74-kWh lithium ion battery. That is smaller than the beefier batteries in luxury electric crossovers currently on U.S. roads. The Jaguar i-Pace crossover, for instance, has an EPA range of 234 miles per charge, and it uses a larger 90-kWh battery. The Audi e-tron carries a 95-kWh battery that manages to eke out only 204 miles. Both of those models are selling slowly in the U.S.

The BMW iX3 isn't going to cut it in the U.S. market, said Sam Abuelsamid, principal analyst at Navigant Research.

"To be competitive, you really want to have closer to at least 240 to 250 miles of EPA range," Abuelsamid said. "Anything less than that and I think you're going to be struggling in the marketplace."

Another U.S. challenge for the iX3 is that BMW planned to launch it only with rear-wheel drive, limiting its appeal to American crossover buyers seeking the flexibility of all-while drive.

The BMW iX3 is tailored for the China market, where extended range is not a customer priority, said Sam Fiorani, vice president at AutoForecast Solutions.

"Why push a vehicle with limited appeal into North America only to come up short next to a Tesla Model Y or Ford Mustang Mach-E?" Fiorani said. He believes BMW will have a more competitive chance for a U.S. iX3 when the automaker develops the next-generation X3 platform.

"With better batteries and all-wheel drive, the next generation would make a proper entry into this very competitive segment," Fiorani said.

The BMW iX3, made by joint venture BMW Brilliance Automotive in Shenyang, China, features the fifth generation of BMW's eDrive technology, with the drive unit combining the electric motor, system electronics and transmission into a central housing, reducing its weight and footprint.

The iX3 is part of BMW's ambitious target to have 25 electrified models on the road by 2023. And despite its reversal on the iX3, the Bavarian automaker is sticking to a plan to bring two EVs to the U.S. in the next couple of years.

First is the iNext crossover, which goes into production in the middle of 2021. That will be followed by the i4 sedan, which begins production toward the end of 2021. The i4 and iNext have a range of more than 370 miles, compared with the iX3's 273-mile range, based on the European emissions test cycle.

"With the two longer-range models coming, we don't need the limited range, rear-wheel drive iX3 right now," another dealer said.
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Strange, and I thought a RWD-only SUV would sell like hot cake...

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Strange, and I thought a RWD-only SUV would sell like hot cake...

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Here in the southwest, I was ready to have one until the i4 arrives...Apparently, you will still get them in Austria, and other countries, where you do encounter snow, unlike this portion of the U.S.

This may be mostly about the range. Apparently, the iX3 was a battery generation behind what i4 will offer. I am guessing (?) that your typical trip/commute distances are shorter than ours as well.
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Correct decision by BMW. The iX3 would have no chance against Tesla here in the US. Just focus on i4.
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iX3 is not coming to the U.S.

This is very disappointing news to me as I was really looking forward to this car. Apparently, it will not be sold in the U.S. for the foreseeable future.

Full story: https://www.autonews.com/sales/finic...s-crossover-ev

BMW has iced plans to bring its first electric crossover to the U.S. for now. The BMW iX3 was scheduled to arrive in the first half of 2021.

"At this time we do not have plans to bring the iX3 to the U.S. market," a spokesman confirmed to Automotive News, declining to elaborate on the reasons for the decision.

In late January, BMW informed dealers at a meeting in Boca Raton, Fla., of its decision to not introduce the iX3 in the United States next year.

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Honestly, I cannot imagine what led to the decision to sink a relevant amount of money in the iX3 as it is currently planned. Well, probably fleet-emissions goals to be met in Europe...

I'm already seeing the 2200kg RWD SUVs sliding off the snow covered road with their huge amount of torque at the rear axle.
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A small(er), expensive, RWD SUV that doesn't have enough range for any meaningful trips. American dealers must have been screaming HELL NO!! A minuscule amount of Americans would buy such a thing when there's a (potentially-cheaper) conventional X3 is on the same lot without the compromises.
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iX3 Cancelled for U.S. Market?

Any truth to this?

https://electrek.co/2020/03/09/bmw-i...suv-cancel-us/
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Just like the wagons, European market gets everything. RIP
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Well that seems awfully shortsighted.
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