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      02-24-2020, 12:29 PM   #1
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The debut of the full electric BMW iX3 is getting closer as the prototypes are now appearing in different colors. Also see here for the first time are the Aerodynamic Wheels exclusive to the iX3.

BMW has officially published that the iX3's range is rated at 440 KM (WLTP) and feature a 74 kWh battery.

The electric motor featured in the BMW iX3 delivers a maximum power output of 210 kW/286 hp and 400 Nm torque.

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I have a question re: range. What happens to the 440km range when the AC, heat, headlights, radio/stereo etc are running? Not all at once necessarily. Does the 440km range drop significantly? Obviously that quoted range is optimal and likely tested with nothing else running in the vehicle
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74-kWh battery is small, and hey should go with minimum 90-kWh
Tesla is ready to release new battery and is also increasing to 109-kWh

He is light years ahead!


https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielco...e-battery/amp/


https://carbuzz.com/news/teslas-enti...e-upgrade-soon
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I have a question re: range. What happens to the 440km range when the AC, heat, headlights, radio/stereo etc are running? Not all at once necessarily. Does the 440km range drop significantly? Obviously that quoted range is optimal and likely tested with nothing else running in the vehicle
And this without taking in consideration the cold, which may reduce batteries range by more than 40%...
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440km on the WLTP cycle is going to end up being around 200 miles on the EPA cycle. Itíll also be the least powerful/slowest vehicle in the segment, and be the only one NOT to offer AWD. A RWD-only SUV. BMW waited alllll this time to launch their full electrics, letting Audi, Benz, Jag, etc. beat them to market, and this is what they come out with. Itís like they want it to fail.
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Looks like a standard X3, the tail light is so freaking unglued on G series. Why would you design something this huge.
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I have a question re: range. What happens to the 440km range when the AC, heat, headlights, radio/stereo etc are running? Not all at once necessarily. Does the 440km range drop significantly? Obviously that quoted range is optimal and likely tested with nothing else running in the vehicle
And this without taking in consideration the cold, which may reduce batteries range by more than 40%...
Ah, of course. I'd forgotten about colder temps. So yeah, what's the REAL range taking all these (normal, day to day) things into consideration?
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I have a question re: range. What happens to the 440km range when the AC, heat, headlights, radio/stereo etc are running? Not all at once necessarily. Does the 440km range drop significantly? Obviously that quoted range is optimal and likely tested with nothing else running in the vehicle
Based on my experience with Tesla, itís the cold (<5-10C) thatís more of a problem. Using the radio doesnít really impact anything. Itís also speed, i.e. the faster you go above 100km/hr, it uses exponentially more energy. Not much different than what happens in an ICE car. Just pointing out that if youíre really trying to save the most energy, slow down.
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Hopefully the i4 and iNext/iX will make huge strides for BMW's iDivision because this RWD electric X3 likely won't do the trick unless its really cheap, which it likely won't be. I have a feeling that this will end up flopping like the EQC and E-Tron, doesn't help that Tesla is readying Model Y production.
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I have a question re: range. What happens to the 440km range when the AC, heat, headlights, radio/stereo etc are running? Not all at once necessarily. Does the 440km range drop significantly? Obviously that quoted range is optimal and likely tested with nothing else running in the vehicle
Based on my experience with Tesla, it's the cold (<5-10C) that's more of a problem. Using the radio doesn't really impact anything. It's also speed, i.e. the faster you go above 100km/hr, it uses exponentially more energy. Not much different than what happens in an ICE car. Just pointing out that if you're really trying to save the most energy, slow down.
So temps play a bigger role in range than AC or other similar in cab uses. Might be tough (for me!) to hold my speed at 100km/hr lol
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Hopefully the i4 and iNext/iX will make huge strides for BMW's iDivision because this RWD electric X3 likely won't do the trick unless its really cheap, which it likely won't be. I have a feeling that this will end up flopping like the EQC and E-Tron, doesn't help that Tesla is readying Model Y production.
That 440 WLTP is pretty weak for a 74kWh battery. Now itís starting to make sense why they only went RWD for the iX3... cost. A front motor would probably add $5K or more to whatís probably gonna be a high-ish MSRP.

I suppose they could do what they did with the ActiveHybrid range (former owner here), and basically give them away at the same cost as the equivalently-powered/specíd ICE version.

How much of a premium can they really ask for an iX3, over and above what a X3 30e starts at $49K?
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I have a question re: range. What happens to the 440km range when the AC, heat, headlights, radio/stereo etc are running? Not all at once necessarily. Does the 440km range drop significantly? Obviously that quoted range is optimal and likely tested with nothing else running in the vehicle
Same goes for a Tesla. A Model 3 Perf doesn't do anywhere near 322miles while doing a constant 75mph on the freeway.
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I have a question re: range. What happens to the 440km range when the AC, heat, headlights, radio/stereo etc are running? Not all at once necessarily. Does the 440km range drop significantly? Obviously that quoted range is optimal and likely tested with nothing else running in the vehicle
And this without taking in consideration the cold, which may reduce batteries range by more than 40%...
Ah, of course. I'd forgotten about colder temps. So yeah, what's the REAL range taking all these (normal, day to day) things into consideration?
I think we should email the BMW R&D department. They might have forgotten about all that too.
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There formula for BMW should be simple: Make a Model-Y competitor, equal or better range, equal or better performance, equal or better looks. Pricing could be slightly higher since it's a BMW.

But this approach to offer an electric variant of their line with nothing exciting behind it just feel like the typical legacy approach to product making and the new kids eating their pie.

I think the e-tron sportback from Audi looks increíble.
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Well if we are talking range, When it comes to my i3s during summer time if i am driving "normally" i have achieved at most 280 km in one charge when the guess o meter shows 300 km. And that is with about second setting on the fan and 19c in the car. Sens you Pre cool/pre heat your cabin when connected to the wall connector the heat/cold is rarely a problem.

Then comes winter the car drops to 250-240 km in one charge keeping the cabin at 21c inside again also Pre heating the cabin witch is one of those things you should learn to remember to do before using the car sens then the car have to use a lot less energy to heat up / cool down the car.

So i am guessing with this car if they are claiming 440 km it will probably drop to 390-400 km during winter if keeping 21c in the cabin, But to keep the heat in the car as much as possible BMW should probably heat isolate the car as much as possible as with when building a new home/house the isolation the more you put in the walls the more it keep the heat in the house and the more it will keep the heat outside of the house during summer.

But then again comes that dreaded equations that tells you the more weight you put in to a car the more energy is needed to move that object so you can't put to much weight either in to the car. Sens the car will probably weight a lot.

It is a tricky equation for BMW to solve.
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Look forward more to i4 since it will be more closely related to G22, and according to media AWD and more powerful. But honestly, any platform that aims to accommodate both gasoline and electric powertrains is not optimized for EV, and is unlikely to beat Tesla.
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There formula for BMW should be simple: Make a Model-Y competitor, equal or better range, equal or better performance, equal or better looks. Pricing could be slightly higher since it's a BMW.

But this approach to offer an electric variant of their line with nothing exciting behind it just feel like the typical legacy approach to product making and the new kids eating their pie.
I think it's clear that Tesla is ahead of the pack for a while; I agree that the sDrive iX3 is underwhelming, but apparently that is all BMW can come up with at this point. I am also confident they will offer a dual-motor version in 1-2 years (but obviously won't talk about it now or everybody would wait for it).

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I think the e-tron sportback from Audi looks increŪble.
But it's a POS battery/range/driving/performance-wise as well from what I've read.
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RWD, not a problem. Anyone claiming they need AWD should probably ask themselves why.
Power, plenty of power no need for more.

Range. A bit on the short side. Could work if there's a proper high speed charging network that the car is capable of using.

Price. Will be way to expensive.
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There formula for BMW should be simple: Make a Model-Y competitor, equal or better range, equal or better performance, equal or better looks. Pricing could be slightly higher since it's a BMW.

But this approach to offer an electric variant of their line with nothing exciting behind it just feel like the typical legacy approach to product making and the new kids eating their pie.

I think the e-tron sportback from Audi looks increíble.
Agree on the Audi looks. Here in the UK though it is .... £79k OTR. WoW! For 280 mile range that's a very very very very very nice interior I'm expecting. Outrageous pricing.
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The biggest joke is that the SUV EV have a RWD solution, meanwhile the sedan 3/4 series EV have a AWD, what were BMW thinking?! 😂
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