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      12-21-2019, 01:42 AM   #1
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Drag Race - X3M Competition vs F-Pace SVR

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The sound of the Jag though...

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that is so close - i would imagine a different pair of cars could have a different result
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Proving that tech beats V8

Also interesting to see the torque delay with the X3M at the beginning and how it fought back.
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Looks like both cars were just smash throttle go. Probably on purpose to even the odds which I appreciate. They are both soooo slow off the line. Her hands drop and they just sit there doing nothing for at least a second lol.
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Yeah no launch used there.
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Proving that tech beats V8

Also interesting to see the torque delay with the X3M at the beginning and how it fought back.
Looked slow as hell to start.. impressive in the end though
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Looked slow as hell to start.. impressive in the end though
They both did, the F-pace gained a few inches until it got beaten not sure why you'd go to the trouble of hiring a race track to do drag race and not use LC.
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Looked slow as hell to start.. impressive in the end though
They both did, the F-pace gained a few inches until it got beaten not sure why you'd go to the trouble of hiring a race track to do drag race and not use LC.
I think it's quicker to launch without LC
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I think it's quicker to launch without LC
TBF though your car has no torque so I'm not sure we should take your advice.....

Carwow and C & D used LC and got 1/4 mile times of 11.8 and 11.6 respectively so I think it works.
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They both did, the F-pace gained a few inches until it got beaten not sure why you'd go to the trouble of hiring a race track to do drag race and not use LC.
What i did notice, and this is important for all you X3M drivers out there is that unlike some of the recent Crash threads that particular X3M did NOT "Loose control" ...i can only assume it had different tyres and may be a bag of cement in the boot to anchor it to the road??
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that jag was quick. impressive. I drove a x3mc for a week and that thing is a rocket!
close race.
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Looks like both cars were just smash throttle go. Probably on purpose to even the odds which I appreciate. They are both soooo slow off the line. Her hands drop and they just sit there doing nothing for at least a second lol.
Felt like longer then a second. They must have a zip of coffee first. Lol
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X3 is so quick. I'd still have the jag. Looks better and I want to enjoy those NA sounding V8s before their gone.
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Love the "if the X3M used launch control" replies. Convenient that when the result isn't quite what we expected we are quick to blame some aspect of the set up, like track set up or use of LC. LC is always controversial with many saying it's complete garbage. If they had used it and the outcome was exactly the same people would be blaming the LC.

As much bc as we want the X3M to annihilate every competitor, it didn't, let's just live with it for what it is.
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They gotta figure out that lag before the M3/M4 launch. Plenty of cars out there without the lag using I6/V6 turbos.

The X3M is a monster once you get RPMs up, insanely fun to drive, but from a dead stop it can be brutal, feels no different than a M40i for that first 1-2 seconds.
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They gotta figure out that lag before the M3/M4 launch. Plenty of cars out there without the lag using I6/V6 turbos.

The X3M is a monster once you get RPMs up, insanely fun to drive, but from a dead stop it can be brutal, feels no different than a M40i for that first 1-2 seconds.
Electric turbo will fix this issue. Spoiling at low RPM

But agin 48V system's are taking forever to get into production
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Love the "if the X3M used launch control" replies. Convenient that when the result isn't quite what we expected we are quick to blame some aspect of the set up, like track set up or use of LC. LC is always controversial with many saying it's complete garbage. If they had used it and the outcome was exactly the same people would be blaming the LC.

As much bc as we want the X3M to annihilate every competitor, it didn't, let's just live with it for what it is.
Considering Jag has 550 hp and 502 torque, with a similar weight to X3M (within 50 lbs I think), it should have won...

Car and Driver breaks it down here, the numbers don't lie, compared to the X3M it makes perfect sense. 0-60 was 4.1 (X3M would have been 3.3 with LC and destroyed it off the line), BUT the rolling start is 4.4 and they tested the X3MC at 4.6 which explains why the SVR won off the line (LC was not used) but the X3MC still catches up in the full 1/4 mile. many have tested the X3MC at under 12 seconds when using LC (including magazines), while the article below shows SVR best time at 12.4.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...r-first-drive/
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Love the "if the X3M used launch control" replies. Convenient that when the result isn't quite what we expected we are quick to blame some aspect of the set up, like track set up or use of LC. LC is always controversial with many saying it's complete garbage. If they had used it and the outcome was exactly the same people would be blaming the LC.

As much bc as we want the X3M to annihilate every competitor, it didn't, let's just live with it for what it is.
Considering Jag has 550 hp and 502 torque, with a similar weight to X3M (within 50 lbs I think), it should have won...

Car and Driver breaks it down here, the numbers don't lie, compared to the X3M it makes perfect sense. 0-60 was 4.1 (X3M would have been 3.3 with LC and destroyed it off the line), BUT the rolling start is 4.4 and they tested the X3MC at 4.6 which explains why the SVR won off the line (LC was not used) but the X3MC still catches up in the full 1/4 mile. many have tested the X3MC at under 12 seconds when using LC (including magazines), while the article below shows SVR best time at 12.4.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...r-first-drive/
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Love the "if the X3M used launch control" replies. Convenient that when the result isn't quite what we expected we are quick to blame some aspect of the set up, like track set up or use of LC. LC is always controversial with many saying it's complete garbage. If they had used it and the outcome was exactly the same people would be blaming the LC.

As much bc as we want the X3M to annihilate every competitor, it didn't, let's just live with it for what it is.
Considering Jag has 550 hp and 502 torque, with a similar weight to X3M (within 50 lbs I think), it should have won...

Car and Driver breaks it down here, the numbers don't lie, compared to the X3M it makes perfect sense. 0-60 was 4.1 (X3M would have been 3.3 with LC and destroyed it off the line), BUT the rolling start is 4.4 and they tested the X3MC at 4.6 which explains why the SVR won off the line (LC was not used) but the X3MC still catches up in the full 1/4 mile. many have tested the X3MC at under 12 seconds when using LC (including magazines), while the article below shows SVR best time at 12.4.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...r-first-drive/
It should have but it didn't. Not saying that won't be the case in other tests but Magazine statistics are all over the place, especially C&D which tends to be on the high side of things.

LC is very controversial and people tend to use its use or non-use as a way of dismissing a given outcome.
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They gotta figure out that lag before the M3/M4 launch. Plenty of cars out there without the lag using I6/V6 turbos.

The X3M is a monster once you get RPMs up, insanely fun to drive, but from a dead stop it can be brutal, feels no different than a M40i for that first 1-2 seconds.
No, it's different. M40i with B58 has way better power response.
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Love the "if the X3M used launch control" replies. Convenient that when the result isn't quite what we expected we are quick to blame some aspect of the set up, like track set up or use of LC. LC is always controversial with many saying it's complete garbage. If they had used it and the outcome was exactly the same people would be blaming the LC.

As much bc as we want the X3M to annihilate every competitor, it didn't, let's just live with it for what it is.
They didnt have the same tires. And the BMWs had 5,000 more miles on them.
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They gotta figure out that lag before the M3/M4 launch.
Precisely. It seems to be the only downside of the S58, albeit it's a concerning one.
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