BMW X3 Forum
BMW X3 Forum
Welcome to the ultimate BMW X3 community.
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
XBimmers | BMW X3 Forum BMW X3 and X4 Forums | F25 (2011 - 2017) | F26 (2014 - Current) Second Generation BMW X3 (F25) General Forum High cost of ownership? BMW vs. Acura

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-13-2016, 01:17 PM   #1
Mrag2
Registered
3
Rep
2
Posts

Drives: pending purchase
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Chicago, IL

iTrader: (0)

High cost of ownership? BMW vs. Acura

Looking for some thoughts from existing X3 owners about a potential purchase of an xDrive28i.

I am currently driving a 2014 Acura MDX SH-AWD with Technology Package and at a point whereby I can “hand me down” this vehicle to my wife and purchase something new (or keep and let her choose). Either way, the MDX is not going away as it a great family vehicle for us – yet, I simply do not need something quite so large for my daily use. Plus, X3 will likely provide more driving fun!

Guess my concern with purchasing an X3 is predominately tied to ownership costs. I drive 20,000+ miles annually and historically have driven Acura/Honda products for their low maintenance requirements and ease of which they can rack up the mileage without compliant. I have a perception that 2.0 turbo 4-cylinder X3 will be costly to maintain and perhaps not provide the carefree longevity that I am used to. Please tell me I am wrong...

What can I expect over a 5-year 100,000 ownership experience? Surprising to me, I recently had two different salespeople at my local dealership talk openly about high ownership cost with one saying BMW means Bring Money With – hardly a way to motivate a purchase.

Lastly I understand the 2017 model year will usher in a new redesigned X3. From past experience, I would prefer to avoid a first year model and would likely be happy with the current vehicle. Is anyone experiencing deep discounts on 2016’s given this dynamic?

Any and all thoughts are most welcome!
Appreciate 0
      01-13-2016, 01:49 PM   #2
NOITALL
Banned
155
Rep
687
Posts

Drives: 4 wheels
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Interwebs

iTrader: (0)

If you purchase it now you'll get 4 years or 50000 miles (whichever happens first) worth of "free" maintenance.
This will change to 3 years 36k miles next year.

I own the vehicle for a year and have done 2 oil changes myself and that had been the extent of maintenance I've applied (30 k kilometres in the period).
I don't expect to do any other "large" unexpected maintenance such as a breakdown. But for that I have the warranty as well.

My car has now 100,000 km.

Your mileage may vary, one car is different than the other. Luck and how you maintain your vehicle play a larger role in the vehicle's longevity, not the brand badge. I've had Honda and it was a piece of crap.
I have 2 BMWs at home and I drive them anywhere like there's no tomorrow, and rely on them. Never let me down.

Cheers
Appreciate 1
      01-13-2016, 01:51 PM   #3
gIzzE
Major General
gIzzE's Avatar
United Kingdom
319
Rep
5,965
Posts

Drives: F11 530d + 911 C4
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Norfolk, UK.

iTrader: (2)

I think BMW ownership is one of the cheapest. Not sure in the USA what you get service and warranty wise?

I had 5 years or 60,000 miles included with my car for servicing, I have reached the mileage by year 3, but still means I am only due another £600 odd worth of servicing by year 6 and 120,000 miles.

I was discussing this on the Merc forum last night, I was considering swapping for a 3 year old ML350, but the figures simply don't stack up.

For 3 more years warranty (we get 3 years in the UK vs your 4 years) and all servicing it will cost me approx £2000.
If I were to buy an ML it will cost me just over £10,000 for 3 years warranty and servicing.
Now that is an expensive comparison.

I would actually happily run my BMWs out of warranty for 2-3 years and up to 120k mies, I have had enough now that have hit that mileage with nothing other than minor things going wrong.

The difference for me on warranty was £1500 for 3 years on the BMW vs £7500 on the Mercedes. In the UK our extended warranty is actually a third party insurance policy, not an in house warranty, it is supplied by BMW or Mercedes but both are under written by Mondial.
Being an insurance policy it is based on actual payouts, which gives me lots of confidence on the BMW but makes me very wary of running the Merc.

5 years and 100,000 miles is just about run it imho.
Appreciate 0
      01-13-2016, 02:02 PM   #4
epiphone3
Lieutenant Colonel
96
Rep
1,769
Posts

Drives: 2013 BMW X3 35i
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary

iTrader: (0)

My experience with the X3, now 40 months old and with 65,000 km has been that the maintenance cost is very minimal. Same with my previous 323i (2006 MY) that I had through 100,000 km. My wife's Honda CRV (2007) has required much more maintenance and break-fixes than either of my BMW's.
Appreciate 1
      01-13-2016, 06:04 PM   #5
jponline77
Private
Canada
10
Rep
60
Posts

Drives: BMW X3 35i M Sport
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Vancouver

iTrader: (0)

I don't think maintenance would lead to a higher cost of ownership. Everything is under warranty and maintenance is free for three years. So, I don't think that's the issue. However, BMW is a higher cost of ownership mainly because its cars are more expensive than Acura. That will swamp any maintenance costs. I argue they are nicer cars but if you are very concerned about cost of ownership and the BMW "experience" doesn't have you super excited about a higher cost of a vehicle then you should probably stick to Acura. Taking it further, if cost of ownership is a big concern then you should stick with Honda because a fully loaded Honda is a good car and very practical and you will save a lot of money. A BMW will get you excited every time you get in the car and step on the gas. A Honda will get you where you need to go comfortably and afford-ably.

What do they say about yacht ownership, if you have to ask how much it'll cost it's too expensive? I would say of owning a BMW, if you want to save money, then it's the wrong brand to own.
Appreciate 1
      01-13-2016, 08:36 PM   #6
midwest 340xi 6sp
Lieutenant Colonel
midwest 340xi 6sp's Avatar
United_States
332
Rep
1,803
Posts

Drives: 2018 340xi
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: The Great Midwest

iTrader: (6)

"Generally speaking" Japanese cars are considered more reliable than European makes...

That said, I have bought BMW since 1998 and have found them reliable and more importantly a hell of a lot of fun to drive. More than any reliable Lexus my wife ever had.

Had her test drive a bmw SAV after driving Lexus Rx350's for years and she never went back. Has had X5 and now an X4.

I think you've received good advice here. Know your own vehicle priorities really well and that can be your guide.
__________________
Previous Rides: 535xi, M235xi, X3, E92 M3, E70 X5 35d, X6 50i, X6 35i, E60 550i, E46 M3 Cabriolet, E39 540i, E36 328i
Appreciate 0
      01-14-2016, 02:48 AM   #7
plymjack
Nuclear Chief of the Watch
plymjack's Avatar
United Kingdom
101
Rep
635
Posts

Drives: X3 (F25) 2.0D, i3 BEV
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Plymouth, UK

iTrader: (0)

Having had a long list of non BMWs I can confirm for us
1. Yes the BMW is the most fun driving we have ever had.
2. The servicing costs are very low - we have opted for the extended w'tee option after 4 years - its more as an insurance against big bills but at £30 is the same cost and Merc. is for a year car!!
3. We run winter tyres because we enjoy driving the bmw - but find the extra grip well worth the extra cost of swapping each year (it cost nothing extra in tyres as you need them anyhow)

SO yes the BMW is not cheap, but for fun per £/$ it is well at the top of the list !!
__________________
BMW i3 (BEV) 2014. . Capparis White. . Park Assist, Comfort Access, Enhanced USB
BMW X3 (F25) xDrive20d SE 2017. . . . Oyster Leather . . 8 Speed Servotronic. .RFTs. . Electric Seats
Canon 70D 500mm, 85mm, 40mm, 24mm
Sony QX10 & GoPro Hero 3
Appreciate 0
      01-14-2016, 08:14 AM   #8
The X Men
Colonel
90
Rep
2,323
Posts

Drives: 2013 X3 35i
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: MA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrag2 View Post
Looking for some thoughts from existing X3 owners about a potential purchase of an xDrive28i.

I am currently driving a 2014 Acura MDX SH-AWD with Technology Package and at a point whereby I can “hand me down” this vehicle to my wife and purchase something new (or keep and let her choose). Either way, the MDX is not going away as it a great family vehicle for us – yet, I simply do not need something quite so large for my daily use. Plus, X3 will likely provide more driving fun!

Guess my concern with purchasing an X3 is predominately tied to ownership costs. I drive 20,000+ miles annually and historically have driven Acura/Honda products for their low maintenance requirements and ease of which they can rack up the mileage without compliant. I have a perception that 2.0 turbo 4-cylinder X3 will be costly to maintain and perhaps not provide the carefree longevity that I am used to. Please tell me I am wrong...

What can I expect over a 5-year 100,000 ownership experience? Surprising to me, I recently had two different salespeople at my local dealership talk openly about high ownership cost with one saying BMW means Bring Money With – hardly a way to motivate a purchase.

Lastly I understand the 2017 model year will usher in a new redesigned X3. From past experience, I would prefer to avoid a first year model and would likely be happy with the current vehicle. Is anyone experiencing deep discounts on 2016’s given this dynamic?

Any and all thoughts are most welcome!
Acura products are among the most reliable in the industries, especially the powertrain. With that said, BMW's powertrain is pretty reliable as well, most of the problems are with the sensors and other non-powertrain related components. In 5 years, 100,000 miles, you will probably need the usual routine maintenance such as tires, brakes and plugs. Brake flush, brake pads, rotors, oil changes and air filters; all covered for 50,000 miles. If you are handy with the wrench, you can do some of that work yourself or you can also find a good BMW indy mechanic which will cost much less than the dealer. From 50000 miles to 100000 miles, I would expect the schedule maintenance to cost around $2500. On top of that, one set of brakes, $2000 and plugs, $350. I would consider buying the extended warranty and extended schedule maintenance if you know for sure you will keep the car for 100000 miles. Lastly, if you want a car that is more fun to drive, why buy a SUV? You should be looking at sedans. If you need the cargo space, and want a fun SUV, you should test drive the 6 cylinder X3 35i with the dynamic handling package. Good Luck.
Appreciate 1
      01-14-2016, 09:53 AM   #9
double_j
First Lieutenant
84
Rep
331
Posts

Drives: 2008 JB/B E90 M3
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Northeast USA

iTrader: (0)

I can't speak specifically to the X3 but I can say that my prior BMWs haven't been too bad from a cost of ownership standpoint. They've been very solid DDs overall and I've had no complaints. 5 years/100K should be a no-brainer and it's even pretty unlikely that you'll need any really major work done during that time.

It's cliche to say this but generally if you can comfortably afford the cost of entry to get into a BMW you shouldn't have any problems swinging the maintenance. I can't say for certain if the maintenance costs will be the same as for other brands over the life of the vehicle but I can say that if there is a difference, it's pretty insignificant.
Appreciate 0
      01-15-2016, 07:53 AM   #10
FSociety
Follow Me on IG @BMW_F9X
FSociety's Avatar
No_Country
3581
Rep
7,451
Posts

Drives: F98 X4MC, F90 M5, F80 M3 ZCP
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC NJ FL

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by jponline77 View Post
I don't think maintenance would lead to a higher cost of ownership. Everything is under warranty and maintenance is free for three years. So, I don't think that's the issue. However, BMW is a higher cost of ownership mainly because its cars are more expensive than Acura. That will swamp any maintenance costs. I argue they are nicer cars but if you are very concerned about cost of ownership and the BMW "experience" doesn't have you super excited about a higher cost of a vehicle then you should probably stick to Acura. Taking it further, if cost of ownership is a big concern then you should stick with Honda because a fully loaded Honda is a good car and very practical and you will save a lot of money. A BMW will get you excited every time you get in the car and step on the gas. A Honda will get you where you need to go comfortably and afford-ably.

What do they say about yacht ownership, if you have to ask how much it'll cost it's too expensive? I would say of owning a BMW, if you want to save money, then it's the wrong brand to own.
+1
__________________
F98 X4M Custom STG1 1/4m 10.61@130.92 60-130 7.5 1st WR & 2nd Fastest in the World!
TristateBM3 STG2-- 1/4m -- 60-130: 7.3
IG: @bmw_F9X

Appreciate 0
      01-15-2016, 09:09 AM   #11
exon
Private First Class
24
Rep
129
Posts

Drives: 2014 X3 35i Jet Black!
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

I wouldn't keep any german cars out of warranty... but that's more for potential repair costs than maintenance costs.

In terms of maintenance I think BMW is pretty okay, maybe a bit higher than Honda/Acura but the difference isn't that big to me, or relative to the price of the car.

Acura share parts with Honda (just replaced brake pads on a CRV- found out the pads are also used on RDX or MDX). That make it even cheaper to maintain/repair if you can DIY.
Appreciate 0
      01-17-2016, 06:36 PM   #12
Mrag2
Registered
3
Rep
2
Posts

Drives: pending purchase
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Chicago, IL

iTrader: (0)

Much appreciate all the feedback on this topic!
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:16 PM.




xbimmers
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST