[Mako]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Researching US Pricing of other models ....

X5 M in the US 101k and is about 1-2k less than the M5.

X5 base model is around 60k so there is a 40k delta between that and the X5M.

X3 base model begins at 41K and the X3M40 well equipped runs in to the mid 60s.

I anticipate a price slightly higher than than 66k which was the base price of the outgoing F80 M3 and therefore I'm anticipating the X3M at around 72k and the X4 at around 80-81K

I disagree with the pricing especially between the X3M and X4M

first I have a feeling the X3M will start around $75K, reason is all the competition does or is even higher (look at Jaguar F Type SVR, Alfa Stelvio Quad), one exception is the Merc GLC but that gets up there really quick, I think the BMW will have more standard and therefore have a higher starting price. and if you see the pricing below on a loaded M40i you can see its almost at $70,000, there will be at least a $10K spread.

the X3M vs X4M I am guessing will only be around $4,000
reason is you have to load up the M40i similar when comparing, so a X4 M40i fully loaded is $68,200 with the only "option" section being selected is the HK sound. X3 M40i built the same way is $64,275 (have to add M Sport dif since it comes standard in X4 M40i). So difference of just under $4,000

I am guessing X3M $75,900 and X4M $79,900 so they can get under that $80K mark

[X5MSD]

When does the 40i get a engine upgrade ?

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by X5MSD

When does the 40i get a engine upgrade ?

It gets a power bump I believe this coming year.

[X5MSD]

Better not order one yet then

[alex2364]

It doesn’t look anymore aggressive than the M40i. Where’s the wide fenders?

[auggiem3]

Originally Posted by alex2364

It doesn’t look anymore aggressive than the M40i. Where’s the wide fenders?

Agree. Keep hoping for another inch of rear fender trim covering up another 30 to 50mm tire width.

Move those 265s to 295 or an amazing 315 and slap a wide flare on it PLEASE!

[cfm56d7b]

X3M looks better and better as more updates are arriving. Interested!

[Max Well]

Hoping the X3M will highlight the design team's goal of performance and handling dictating aesthetics, not aesthetics driving market sales.

Minimize weight. Minimize Cd x A. Maximize HP as allowed within it's design, with an eye out to what others are going to be (or already are) offering - see F-Pace SVR. Offer carbon fiber hood and roof as options.

To do so will require $80Ks at a minimum - don't cut corners on key components which will lessen it's ability have a fair fight. They have a great construct in the G01 M40i - MB and Porsche can't match the cargo volume (and this does matter in this category).

Fine tune this to be a light-weight, aerodynamic SAV which improves on the excellent dynamics of the G01, and give it a chance to run and compete.

[Penguino]

Originally Posted by ThugzZ BunnY

Are you new here? Do you know anything about M vehicles? Is this even a real question???

Joined about 10 years ago, so about 7 years before you did.

[Penguino]

Originally Posted by Miko M

No difference then M240 vs M2

It's taking those corners very nicely

Not quite. I understand the logic, but we are talking about an SUV. The M2 you track, you take it to the strip, etc. But An X3M draws very little incentive over an already very capable X3 M40i.

So again, what pushes anyone to consider an X3M over an X3 M40i. It's a very straight forward question.

[antzcrashing]

I am fine with M SUVs if bmw would make M in every other model, Z4, 7 series, those cars and others all need a true M. It shouldnt be about profits it should be about making an exciting performance oriented vehicle out of every offering

[Pyrat 2]

Looking very...um...boxy. Not quite ready to jettison my X1 but when I do it's not clear what to get. X3 is too big for my tastes and the X1 and X2 have gone front drive so there is no compelling reason to not shop beyond BMW.

[Miko M]

Originally Posted by Penguino

Not quite. I understand the logic, but we are talking about an SUV. The M2 you track, you take it to the strip, etc. But An X3M draws very little incentive over an already very capable X3 M40i.

So again, what pushes anyone to consider an X3M over an X3 M40i. It's a very straight forward question.

Let's make it short

It outperforms in any aspect

If you are ///M fan you gone buy X3M and not X3 M40i

I owned multiple M3, M4, M5, X5M, X6M and will always stay a true ///M fanatic

[Penguino]

Originally Posted by Miko M

Let's make it short

It outperforms in any aspect

If you are ///M fan you gone buy X3M and not X3 M40i

I owned multiple M3, M4, M5, X5M, X6M and will always stay a true ///M fanatic

Hard to be considered a true M-fanatic one that buys an X3 as an "M" vehicle. The only M in that vehicle is for Marketing. But to each its own.

[Miko M]

Originally Posted by Penguino

Hard to be considered a true M-fanatic one that buys an X3 as an "M" vehicle. The only M in that vehicle is for Marketing. But to each its own.

I am not going into this much but, you buy X3M for same reason you get X5M
For Family and winter times

I owned M3 and X5M at the same time why?
Because I don't drive M3 in winter bro
But I still want ///M car
People can effort both
Not sure why this bother you to much with X3M

[Penguino]

Originally Posted by Miko M

I am not going into this much but, you buy X3M for same reason you get X5M
For Family and winter times

I owned M3 and X5M at the same time why?
Because I don't drive M3 in winter bro
But I still want ///M car
People can effort both
Not sure why this bother you to much with X3M

I'm not bashing or trolling FYI. So I appreciate your mature response. Just BMW has defined the line between their M-performance vehicles and M vehicles so thin that the $20k differential might be no other than badge whoring.

It's not significantly faster, doesn't look significantly more aggressive and doesn't handle significantly better.

[Miko M]

Originally Posted by Penguino

I'm not bashing or trolling FYI. So I appreciate your mature response. Just BMW has defined the line between their M-performance vehicles and M vehicles so thin that the $20k differential might be no other than badge whoring.

It's not significantly faster, doesn't look significantly more aggressive and doesn't handle significantly better.

Thanks but, I believe BMW strategy is making more money.
Some people cannot effort M2 they get M240

I just bought M5, if I couldn't effort it I would got mine self M550

Same goes for SUV

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Penguino

Joined about 10 years ago, so about 7 years before you did.

That means nothing.

Eventually they might actually ban you,,, and then you simply rise again...

[Penguino]

Originally Posted by eDrive

That means nothing.

Eventually they might ban you, and then you just simply rise up again.

Lol What?

[Penguino]

Originally Posted by Miko M

Thanks but, I believe BMW strategy is making more money.
Some people cannot effort M2 they get M240

I just bought M5, if I couldn't effort it I would got mine self M550

Same goes for SUV

As a business, makes sense short term. As a brand, makes no sense long term.

Think Apple. They have remain the leader in computers with dozens of competitors fading away because they held true to their brand.

I'm not opposed to the M-performance vehicles. They have to keep up with the S-line and lower AMG alternatives. My initial point was to objectively see why it and to who it makes sense to buy a X3 M when an X3 M40i is so capable already.

[Penguino]

Originally Posted by eDrive

Reading > You

No, just answering your question if I'm new here that's all. And the answer is clear.

[Penguino]

Originally Posted by eDrive

Reading > You

Ok. Moving on.