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      09-30-2021, 05:19 PM   #23
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None that my ears can perceive anywhere but sensitivity to drone varies per person quite a bit. That said, the most sensitive individual to drone in the office never complained or noted anything so I feel pretty confident in saying there isn't one.
Awesome! I'm about to pull the trigger and order one.

Good option compared to the $3k+ exhaust systems out there
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      10-01-2021, 07:05 AM   #24
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It's all about ROI -- if we thought we could guarantee going through 50 or so every 60 days to make the minimum order quantities of raw material in addition to other capital investments worthwhile then it would be in the queue for future development. As is, we haven't seen many requests/demand for even a tune, let alone hard parts for the platform.
Oh I know it's a Numbers Game and not everyone that Buys a SUV wants the Beast that we bought. I have reached out a couple of times and gotten no reply. I have a Dinan Badge on my 2014 F30 and would prefer to stay with your brand if at all possible. If and when things possibly become available I will see what it is and evaluate things.

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      10-01-2021, 07:13 AM   #25
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I'm sure it's difficult enough to find tuner/mod demand for a 4,500lb x3m compact crossover let alone a 5,500 pound x5/6m.
Tune wise there is the JB4 and the Race Chip, then there are some things out there from Europe but they are not cheap. I can get a Tune out of Switzerland to make 690 HP but it's over 3K . The exhaust they have available is another 4K. I think the Resonator delete pipe would be a hit with the owners. There are multiple threads on how to get the exhaust sounding better. Not sure that they would ever reach the 50 units every 60 days need.
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      10-01-2021, 08:46 AM   #26
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X3M is an enthusiast car to begin with (even if it is an SUV) so demand on it is pretty strong out of the gate, not M2/M3/M4 levels, but pretty good. Volume is also a consideration -- X3's are plentiful.
I feel from what I've seen that it's what I'd consider a scratcher car.

For those that have an itch for a good performing vehicle and don't want to break the bank yet they have options to make the platform perform better easily should they please.
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      10-02-2021, 12:44 AM   #27
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I'm sure it's difficult enough to find tuner/mod demand for a 4,500lb x3m compact crossover let alone a 5,500 pound x5/6m.
X3M is an enthusiast car to begin with (even if it is an SUV) so demand on it is pretty strong out of the gate, not M2/M3/M4 levels, but pretty good. Volume is also a consideration -- X3's are plentiful.
Well, color me impressed. I've added to the volume and ordered
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      10-06-2021, 06:22 PM   #28
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Ordered on the 29th and received today. Thanks.
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Bravo to Dinan for actually having a shippable product upon announcement. Too many companies make a stink about products they don't intend on shipping for weeks.
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Bravo to Dinan for actually having a shippable product upon announcement. Too many companies make a stink about products they don't intend on shipping for weeks.
Well.....
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I've had the F90 version on my car for a week now, and for the price, it's excellent. The sound has improved nicely over the week and is just right now. No drone that I can hear. Obviously a different platform, so ymmv. Highly recommended!

Btw, I ordered months ago when the supply chain was at its worst, and I think I got it in under a week. Nice work there.

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This is great! Anybody has an estimate of how much it could cost to get it installed?
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      10-07-2021, 08:27 PM   #33
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This is great! Anybody has an estimate of how much it could cost to get it installed?
I paid $150. If you're going to a well known shop, they'll start at $300-$350. Don't pay more then $200 1-2 hours install.
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Any drone with this setup?
I haven't noticed any in any mode.
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      10-07-2021, 10:12 PM   #35
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Do you have an audio sample installed on a regular X3M (non-comp)?

Highly considering it!

Do you have an audio sample installed on a regular X3M (non-comp)? Or shouldn't make a difference at all?
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Any option to pay extra to get tip in carbon fiber? Or any alternative parts out there that is a suitable replacement for those stainless steel tips? Thanks
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      10-07-2021, 10:56 PM   #37
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For those that are stupid (me)...how does this compare to a mid-pipe in terms of sound?
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      10-07-2021, 11:02 PM   #38
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Highly considering it!

Do you have an audio sample installed on a regular X3M (non-comp)? Or shouldn't make a difference at all?
If not I'll get one up. Ordered today. I had the rg midpipe on my non comp and it had some unwanted resonance in a few load areas. Gonna see how this goes...
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Yes please, that would be great!
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      10-08-2021, 07:12 AM   #40
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This is an interesting product as I just purchased the RG mid pipe and waiting for it to arrive. As far as I can tell, the Dinan product only removes the resonator and leaves the secondary cat in place. You still need to make cuts, you just cut out less of the stock exhaust.

Pros and Cons as I see them...

Labor should be about the same for both products.
Dinan costs $450, RG mid pipe costs $1200.
Both products lighter than factory, louder than factory, produce more HP than factory, less restrictive/higher flow than factory.

RG will be louder as you are removing secondary cats. For the same reason, RG will also flow better, will produce more HP and will be lighter than the Dinan product. It is also more than double the price. $1200 vs $450.

Labor to install both should be about the same. Both need the same amount of cutting.

It is a great way to remain compliant (if you are concerned about that) and save about $750. It should be less loud than the RG and certainly improves the sound over stock.
Neither product will throw a CEL warning as the secondary cats are not monitored and the muffler and primary cats remain in place.
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Bravo to Dinan for actually having a shippable product upon announcement. Too many companies make a stink about products they don't intend on shipping for weeks.
Now the question is how long it stays that way. Try to have enough at launch to satisfy projected 3-4 months worth of demand but in the current enviroment in stock stuff might as well have vultures circling it folks are so rabid for stuff resulting in projections that are often wrong.

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Highly considering it!

Do you have an audio sample installed on a regular X3M (non-comp)? Or shouldn't make a difference at all?
Do not. Our in house vehicle is a comp but generally speaking it should matter very little. Both variants use the same resonator that is being replaced with the X so the DELTA at least between the 2 should be identical. The comp exhaust from the get go is a bit meaner due to a slightly different can design but I don't know if I would consider it a monumental difference. Everyone's ears are different though.

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Any option to pay extra to get tip in carbon fiber? Or any alternative parts out there that is a suitable replacement for those stainless steel tips? Thanks
The Dinan exhaust comes in polished or black tips. Do not offer CF personally but they are clamp on tips so you could source your own elsewhere if desired. As far as replacing the stock exhaust tips -- I know there are black chrome replacements out there so I would assume there are CF versions as well if you look hard enough.

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For those that are stupid (me)...how does this compare to a mid-pipe in terms of sound?
Depends on the mid-pipe as there are a couple different variables at play. Most full mid-pipes are incorporating an H tube as opposed to an X and are deleting the secondary catalytic convertors completely.

H vs X - Generally speaking an H elicits a deeper muscle car tone between the two . An X on the other hand is more commonly associated with a more exotic sound and promotes a more even flow so sounds related to pulsing are reduced. In the case of of the X3M both are removing the same resonator so offer essentially the same advantage to overall volume enhancement.

Secondary Cats - If cats are deleted you automatically increase volume as a relatively large restriction is being removed. Those cats are essentially acting as another resonator so chances of adding a drone that your ears may notice goes up as well although everyone's tolerance and senstivity differ so mileage may vary there. Then there is the emissions laws to contend with in some areas when removing cats so that is a consideration for some as well (CA).

Depending on the back section and how it was designed to perform there are nearly infinite permutations that can effect sound in various ways (volume, tone, drone, backpressure, etc), but from a strictly volume approach the ranking from quiet to loud would be: Stock, Resonator Delete, Axleback, Axleback+Resonator Delete, Axleback+Full Mid-Pipe.

From a Dinan perspective we leave the bulk of the tone changes to be achieved by the axleback/muffler instead of further upstream (we prefer the deep and throaty sound like most). The mid's /resonator deletes are designed with volume enhancement in mind and evening out the tone (refinement of the sound).
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Man this sounds sooo much better then any of the M3/M4 out there that sounds very raspy. I can't wait to hear what ya come up with for the g80 platform
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Nice. I am about to custom build my X-pipe for G80, install is next week.
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Better jump on these asap they'll be back ordered soon. They're struggling hard these days to keep up with production of their exhaust products.
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