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      03-30-2019, 09:28 AM   #1
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Bird poo stain

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Tried wipes, wd40 etc.. but this stain will not lift
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      03-30-2019, 09:35 AM   #2
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this is why always protect your paint with some sealant and/or ceramic coatings.

Best way to repair at this point would be wet sanding + light compound/polishing.
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this is why always protect your paint with some sealant and/or ceramic coatings.

Best way to repair at this point would be wet sanding + light compound/polishing.
I use this stuff for any hard to remove stains on my bike and cars. https://www.jpcycles.com/product/900...iABEgL5AvD_BwE

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this is why always protect your paint with some sealant and/or ceramic coatings.

Best way to repair at this point would be wet sanding + light compound/polishing.
The car had protectX when I picked up the vehicle so assumed it was protected.
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this is why always protect your paint with some sealant and/or ceramic coatings.

Best way to repair at this point would be wet sanding + light compound/polishing.
The car had protectX when I picked up the vehicle so assumed it was protected.
ProtectX is a gimmick just like all the other dealer offered compounds. Protection only comes with a decent product like gyeon, gtechniq or an alternative.
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      03-30-2019, 10:01 AM   #6
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Ok.... hindsight and all that!

Any suggestions to get this out and I will get some like spray wax to help seal after a wash
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I have always had good luck using "Meguiar’s Water Spot Remover – Water Stain Remover and Polish for All Hard Surfaces" for anything that is difficult to remove from my paint.

https://www.amazon.com/Meguiars-A371.../dp/B009OBVS2K

I always just use Optimum Car Wax to help protect my cars and have had good luck with it too.
https://www.amazon.com/Optimum-SW200.../dp/B00GG9FI8I
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Ok.... hindsight and all that!

Any suggestions to get this out and I will get some like spray wax to help seal after a wash
Probably looking at a 1 stage machine polish. If you don't want a full ceramic detail you could just give the whole car a hand polish and ceramic wax like angle wax enigma.
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Also don't use WD40 on paint please
I got desperate !
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Have you tried using a clay bar?
This. And if this doesn't work, its time to invest in a rotary and some polish.
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The car had protectX when I picked up the vehicle so assumed it was protected.
The Protect X system is much maligned and I agree it is usually overpriced and does not provide anywhere near the protection a ceramic or similar coating will provide BUT, the fact you had Protect X applied to you car should allow you now to tap into the benefit it DOES provide over after market applications - namely the 'insurance / guarantee' element. When I had bird poo attack the clearcoat on my last X3, (when I left it in an airport carpark whilst on holiday for 2 weeks) I took it straight into my local dealer and they honoured the Protect X protection promise and completely fixed the damage to 'as new' F.O.C. Certainly worth exploring this route 1st I would suggest.
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Not a stain -- it etched the clear coat. I just had this happen to my X3 and it happened in a matter of hours. Car was clean at lunch. At quitting time I came out, saw the mess and wiped it off, but the damage was done.

I was able to buff it to my satisfaction with 3M scratch remover, which is a polishing compound that is about a "4" on the scale of aggressiveness. Use a foam pad and do it by hand. You can make multiple applications of this until the etching is polished out to your satisfaction, and don't be afraid to put some pressure into it. I followed that up with #3 and #1 Meguiars polish then re-waxed the area with Klasse.

BTW, even the best ceramic coatings can't prevent this damage, although they might buy you an extra hour. No reputable product will claim to prevent damage from bird drippings (if they do, laugh and look elsewhere). Bird droppings are highly acidic and can pretty much burn through any protective layer.
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I feel your pain!

On Monday this week, I came out to my Carbon Black G01 to see 6 giant bird drops on the hood. I rushed home and immediately washed it. Unfortunately, the paint was etched in 6 spots, identically to your photo above.

I’ll have to use my Porter Cable orbital polisher to remove them, but even that may not completely take them out. I normally would use an orange pad on these, anyone want to recommend an appropriate level of cut compound?
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Ok.... hindsight and all that!

Any suggestions to get this out and I will get some like spray wax to help seal after a wash
Probably looking at a 1 stage machine polish. If you don't want a full ceramic detail you could just give the whole car a hand polish and ceramic wax like angle wax enigma.
This, that will need some machine polish work now IMO.

Good luck, I had the same on my M4 a few years back, I literally washed it off the night it happened but it baked in the day in the sun.

I have some emergency wipes now at hand in the car.
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For the fear of this happening, I keep a bottle of Meguiar's Ultimate Waterless Wash & Wax and two microfiber towels in my trunk.
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I've yet to see any sealants or coatings truly withstand the test of a baked on bird poo stain.
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Good luck, I had the same on my M4 a few years back, I literally washed it off the night it happened but it baked in the day in the sun.

I have some emergency wipes now at hand in the car.
I keep Griot's Speed Shine wipes in cars for just that occasion.

Perhaps there is difference of kind of poop and time that its baked in under sun at certain climate/weather. So far i was able to, not yet on X3 (Carbon Black), on other cars (blue water metallic, mystic blue metallic) loosen up the poop's, and wipe them off completely (again, using Griot's Speed Shine wipes). Perhaps what i was overlooking was whether there was any damage already done underneath.
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BTW, even the best ceramic coatings can't prevent this damage, although they might buy you an extra hour. No reputable product will claim to prevent damage from bird drippings (if they do, laugh and look elsewhere). Bird droppings are highly acidic and can pretty much burn through any protective layer.
Urgh, not what i wanted to hear, after just undergoing Ceramic Pro 9H coatings.

Kind of hoping the slickness would help avoid this...


https://ceramicpro.com/aftercare/

Ceramic Pro is extremely slick, this means most things will dissolve and be pulled off by Ceramic Pro’s self-cleaning effect. Minimizing rubbing, (especially with a dry towel) on the coating will ensure its longevity. Dry bird droppings, bugs and tree sap can be dissolved using alcohol type solvents and wiped off with a damp microfiber towel.


Bird droppings, tar, sap, etc. should be removed as soon as possible to avoid temporary staining or hardening on the coating. Any staining left behind from bird droppings will break down over a few days without affecting the coating.
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I have phytonic blue and have a similar mark on my bonnet. I have tried Autoglym super resin polish but wont shift it. Any other recommended products I keep hearing of meguirs ultimate compound for this sort of thing?
I have also seen numerous reports of applyimg heat with a hairdryer which sorts these marks out. I am obviously very reluctant to try this due to fear of damaging paint
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Hi,
For me - nothing beats a clay bar for correcting bird lime etchings.
It’s a cheap and relatively easy way of sorting out the problem.
Just make sure you start with a clean car, keep the bar constantly lubricated, turn it frequently and never drop it on the floor!
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I have always had good luck using "Meguiar’s Water Spot Remover – Water Stain Remover and Polish for All Hard Surfaces" for anything that is difficult to remove from my paint.

https://www.amazon.com/Meguiars-A371.../dp/B009OBVS2K

I always just use Optimum Car Wax to help protect my cars and have had good luck with it too.
https://www.amazon.com/Optimum-SW200.../dp/B00GG9FI8I
This...or some compound with light buffing should do it.
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Hi,
For me - nothing beats a clay bar for correcting bird lime etchings.
It’s a cheap and relatively easy way of sorting out the problem.
Just make sure you start with a clean car, keep the bar constantly lubricated, turn it frequently and never drop it on the floor!
Cheers
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I don`t know much about Claybars at all, but i thought they just removed the surface contamination....how does a Claybar fix etched paintwork..?
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