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      08-02-2017, 11:12 AM   #45
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Where are the fat fender flares????? This looks like a base X4 to me, just with quad exhaust pipes. No aggressive stance, nothing at all that makes it look like a true M model.

Oh, and it is ugly as sin to boot.
Oh yes... and what's with that silly swirl paint job? You only have 3 years... get it together BMW!!!

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Render...a bit too M2vents but looks Rad imo..
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I really can't stand the "wagons and hatches don't work because we never try them" mentality.

How is there enough resources to have 8 different crossover SUVs which must leach off each others markets and no performance hatch/wagons in the US.

1 different offering surely couldn't hurt anyone???

I feel like BMW is no longer setting the bar, and they are just following MB further down its own diluted rabbit hole.
Mercedes followed BMW with the GLE/GLC Coupes.
Yes indeed they certainly did.
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10/3/17

The 2020 BMW X4 M continues its testing and we've got more photos. The F98 X4M is scheduled for MY2020, with market launch either simultaneous with F97, or a very short period of time apart. Read more details in our previous post below.

BMW X4 M Spied Again


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      10-03-2017, 01:14 PM   #49
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I don't see any difference from 2 months ago but it would be nice if we could see this current mule on the track!
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2020?! What warrants such a delayed release for these models? ///Marketing/Leases?
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      10-03-2017, 02:59 PM   #51
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Does it come with FWD? Sorry, couldn?t resist
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Does BMW really need 6 SUV variants, many of which are getting M iterations? Seems like a lot of overlap. Would much rather they brought the current 1-series to the U.S. and dedicated resources on a new 1M hatch.
I agree- but the SUV variants sell.

Really expensive hatch backs do not - at least not at BMW?s desired scale. Ask VW (golf R) and Subaru (WRX 5 door).
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I think it's going to look good. Although I appear to be amongst the few who think the x4/6 look good so...
I actually can't get enough of the x4 and x6 !!! I'm wondering why they don't cut the x3 and x5 ! Lol
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I own a 2018 x4 M40i and it's my all time favorite BMW
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By 2020 ??? This should be an EV, I'm finding it harder and harder to get excited about gasoline vehicles
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I own a 2018 x4 M40i and it's my all time favorite BMW
Has the Full Pano Roof doesn?t it.
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Does BMW really need 6 SUV variants, many of which are getting M iterations? Seems like a lot of overlap. Would much rather they brought the current 1-series to the U.S. and dedicated resources on a new 1M hatch.
Seven.. X1.. X2.. X3.. X4.. X5.. X6.. and the upcoming X7.... and then perhaps an X8 ?
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I agree- but the SUV variants sell.

Really expensive hatch backs do not - at least not at BMW?s desired scale. Ask VW (golf R) and Subaru (WRX 5 door).
Yeah, the consumer is actually to blame here. Too many people buy crossovers and small SUVs when they should be buying a hatch. I know, I made the mistake myself. I needed a larger car for work and bought a Subaru crosstrek (very underwhelming), quickly realized my horrible decision and bought a golf R 4 months later. I do admit missing the clearance for going offroad (plenty of desert in AZ) but I, like most Americans, did it so infrequently I just figured I would rely on a friend with a truck (also plenty of those in AZ ). I attempted to buy and import a M140i considering there was a BMW dealer just south of the border 200 miles from me but the nuisance of attempting to comply with EPA and DOT standards, even though I tried explaining the same exact engine/chassis exists in a U.S. model, proved too difficult. So too bad Americans don't buy hatches, they have better driving dynamics, similar cargo capacity, and are generally cheaper than crossovers. BMW didn't get a sale from me because they didn't even offer an option I would consider but VW does. Would have much preferred a M140i though.

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I wonder if they will put a V8 in it or are they going to take a knife to a gun fight.
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The shape is odd imo. Reminds me of the AMC EAGLE....
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Well you know they're not going to do that.
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I think it's going to look good. Although I appear to be amongst the few who think the x4/6 look good so...
I actually can't get enough of the x4 and x6 !!! I'm wondering why they don't cut the x3 and x5 ! Lol
Much more utility in the 3 and 5 and some people just hate the look of the 4 and 6. It?s in bmws interest to keep them all. Money talks.
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Has the Full Pano Roof doesn?t it.
Unfortunately no, I wish it had a roof similar to the x1
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