[Mamasgotkids]

I know it's a small thing to be annoyed about, but my new X3 doesn't have keyless/hands free entry. My Acura had it and I got used to never having to dig for my keys, just put my hand on the handle and I was in. I had thought this car had it but it seems not.

I'm less than a week into having this car (and I was on vacation for half of that) and it's already bumming me out that it doesn't have it, especially when my hands are full. Does anyone know if there's any kind of aftermarket option?

[TheMooseMan]

The X3 DOES have keyless entry... but it's on an optional package.

[nyalpine90]

what packages does your X3 have?

just know its not a standard feature.

[Zero71]

It's the last option I'd want. I ordered specifically without it. Neighbour had his Merc stolen last year via the keyless scanning thingies. It's so easy to steal one of these it might as well not be locked. And yes, I know the latest versions turn the key off after a period of inactivity - that doesn't stop someone scanning you when you enter or leave the car at home, in a mall, whatever.

[TheMooseMan]

Originally Posted by Zero71

It's the last option I'd want. I ordered specifically without it. Neighbour had his Merc stolen last year via the keyless scanning thingies. It's so easy to steal one of these it might as well not be locked. And yes, I know the latest versions turn the key off after a period of inactivity - that doesn't stop someone scanning you when you enter or leave the car at home, in a mall, whatever.

I think it's a trade-off between security and convenience, as usual. With that package you get convenience but might increase the risk of someone stealing the car. To mitigate the risk one can carry/use a small Faraday case/bag like this to store the keys either at home or on the go. I bought that case from the link (it comes with 2 bags, in fact) and keep one inside the car so that whenever I go to a restaurant or somewhere where the car might be near me or out of site the risk of someone scanning for the fob signal is minimal or maybe even zero.

It's a bit inconvenient to carry a small bag to store the fob, but I think it's worth the convenience of making it easier for me to open the car's doors and that solution works really well on blocking the fob signal.
I just tested keeping the fob on my jeans pocket inside that small Faraday bag/case and I couldn't open the doors or the trunk - using the kick-to-open feature - while I was standing just besides the car.

[spangle1980]

Originally Posted by Zero71

It's the last option I'd want. I ordered specifically without it. Neighbour had his Merc stolen last year via the keyless scanning thingies. It's so easy to steal one of these it might as well not be locked. And yes, I know the latest versions turn the key off after a period of inactivity - that doesn't stop someone scanning you when you enter or leave the car at home, in a mall, whatever.

They adjusted the new models so the key goes dormant after a fixed period unless moved. This was a major bug-bear of mine in previous model (I used to keep my keys in a tin can overnight) but now I tested and it's all good.

[Alias1431]

Originally Posted by spangle1980

They adjusted the new models so the key goes dormant after a fixed period unless moved. This was a major bug-bear of mine in previous model (I used to keep my keys in a tin can overnight) but now I tested and it's all good.

Define "new models."

[TheusBimmer]

From user darrylo, with key word search "faraday bag":

"X3's built after late March-ish 2018 have the "stops sending out signals" fob. No need for a faraday cage for these.

If you're unsure what you have, here is how you can tell: https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=35"


- I still argue that you need a faraday cage as thieves are also aware that it takes about 5 minutes for the key fob to stop sending signals, and that's their window of opportunity.

- Has anyone come with a permanent solution as to solid, long-lasting faraday pouches? I have had two this past year and both failed after a few months.

[Zero71]

Originally Posted by TheusBimmer

From user darrylo, with key word search "faraday bag":

"X3's built after late March-ish 2018 have the "stops sending out signals" fob. No need for a faraday cage for these.

If you're unsure what you have, here is how you can tell: https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=35"


- I still argue that you need a faraday cage as thieves are also aware that it takes about 5 minutes for the key fob to stop sending signals, and that's their window of opportunity.

- Has anyone come with a permanent solution as to solid, long-lasting faraday pouches? I have had two this past year and both failed after a few months.

Agree - thieves will just adjust how they scan to catch you exiting car. Having to deal with a faraday case seems less convenient than just pressing a button, more bulky too.

[foglem]

Faraday cages don’t help. You use what’s known as a roll jam to hack these. It both listens to the correct signal (and steals it) while jamming the cars receiving it by jamming the band locally. Then when the hacker is ready replays the correct signal. Once it’s stolen one it replays the oldest while stealing a new one to pretend everything is working normally.

[TheusBimmer]

would the roll jam happen as you are driving?

[jimcolyer]

Life’s too short for Faraday bags.

Let your insurer take the worry and sleepless nights away.

[spangle1980]

Originally Posted by foglem

Faraday cages don’t help. You use what’s known as a roll jam to hack these. It both listens to the correct signal (and steals it) while jamming the cars receiving it by jamming the band locally. Then when the hacker is ready replays the correct signal. Once it’s stolen one it replays the oldest while stealing a new one to pretend everything is working normally.

That's why when I lock my car I always do it twice (lock, unlock, lock). I always thought (I'd read somewhere) that defeated it. Could be wrong :-/

Anyhow that only opens the car, it won't start it.

[willjames]

Faraday pouch, just in case...

[MediaMan]

Originally Posted by Alias1431

Define "new models."

Open your key and look at the coding as per the pic. It can be retro fitted, and when mine was done BMW paid 70% cost of new keys.

That said, mine has had the keys done, is behind gates, has a disclok and have GAP insurance. There's not much more can be done to cut down the risk, but making it hard opens the option for thieves to target less protected car.

Dont get paranoid about it.

[Mamasgotkids]

Originally Posted by nyalpine90

what packages does your X3 have?

just know its not a standard feature.

I'm finding all kinds of things that were definitely a downgrade from my previous car (Acura RDX). The proximity feature being just one of them. I kind of feel like the dealer bait and switched me. The car they originally had me look at had these ridiculous $2000 wheels I didn't want and no moonroof (which I could care less about), but DID have the Convenience package. They said instead of trying to find the original wheels they would split the difference of the sunroof on the car I bought. I assumed (stupidly) that everything else was the same.

Live and learn for the next five years I suppose.

As for the other comments about stealing cars from scanning the remote, there are far more interesting cars where I live than stealing than a X3.

[Dandle]

Originally Posted by MediaMan

Open your key and look at the coding as per the pic. It can be retro fitted, and when mine was done BMW paid 70% cost of new keys.

That said, mine has had the keys done, is behind gates, has a disclok and have GAP insurance. There's not much more can be done to cut down the risk, but making it hard opens the option for thieves to target less protected car.

Dont get paranoid about it.

Anyway of knowing if the display key has a motion sense or not?

[Zero71]

Originally Posted by Mamasgotkids

As for the other comments about stealing cars from scanning the remote, there are far more interesting cars where I live than stealing than a X3.

Here too. My neighbour has a new McLaren 650S. The Merc GLE up the street is way less interesting. The Merc is keyless and way easier to steal, and was. The McLaren, and 3 Porsches were ignored. I think it's less about interesting and more about how easy it is to steal.

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by Zero71

Here too. My neighbour has a new McLaren 650S. The Merc GLE up the street is way less interesting. The Merc is keyless and way easier to steal, and was. The McLaren, and 3 Porsches were ignored. I think it's less about interesting and more about how easy it is to steal.

Not only about what is easier to actually steal but what will also be easier to part out, sell, etc.

[x3ma]

Any recent update on this issue? I just bought X30 without Comfort Access, and now I regret not getting one.

[kevinkay]

are we talking "comfort access" - you grab the handle and it unlocks?
OR
walk up to the car and it unlocks?? I want this!!

[TheMooseMan]

Originally Posted by kevinkay

are we talking "comfort access" - you grab the handle and it unlocks?
OR
walk up to the car and it unlocks?? I want this!!

Where is that last image from?
After all, it looks like the dashboard of a G01!