[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

The door is not closed yet, but even if it happens, it will be in the next model year at the earliest. I think they'll want to make sure that they can bring the G20 with diesel too - selling a unique engine in a single model would make little sense.

It can not happen soon enough

Diesel is on its way out

Bye-Bye Diesel

[Mako]

Originally Posted by mcc3456

Awesome utilitarian vehicle, but a loaded X3 M40i will likely cost $68k if the X4 M40i is any gauge. At that price, the upcoming Jaguar E Pace and Alfa Stelvio Quadrifoglio will be very tough competitors for only slightly more money. The Alfa Quadrifoglio will bury it performance-wise (if lightly equipped) since more features will come standard to begin with. The new Volvo XC60 will not be a pushover either. Very competitive segment.

? X3M will compete with Alfa stelvio quad

Alfa doesn't have a direct comparison engine to M40i

E pace will be smaller than X3, F Pace is the competitor here.

Show me a SUV the same size (and cargo capacity) as the X3 with 0-60 times under 5.0 and under $70k. I would put money on the M40i hitting 4.4-4.5 when it's tested with launch control.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

It can not happen soon enough

Diesel is on its way out

Bye-Bye Diesel

Do you know that you're a very strange person?

[raysspl]

Soooooo.... no RWD?

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Do you know that you're a very strange person?

Do you know you are being a jerk

[ORIGIN M.]

Hmmm... Interesting no S-Drive?

Originally Posted by raysspl

Soooooo.... no RWD?

[JK479]

Is there an option to have an m40i with a luxury pack of you aren't a fan of the gray m sport bumper?

[JayPichardo]

Originally Posted by JK479

Is there an option to have an m40i with a luxury pack of you aren't a fan of the gray m sport bumper?

Nope

[Max Well]

Originally Posted by Mako

?...Show me a SUV the same size (and cargo capacity) as the X3 with 0-60 times under 5.0 and under $70k...

Agree. This is what seems to be getting lost in this discussion over and over, and will continue I suspect.

For those needing a utilitarian vehicle with good cargo capacity, yet still desiring high performance and engineering, it really boils down to three or four choices. And to add complexity to this decision is the availability of nearby Dealerships - gone are the days that we wish to drive two hours to have a service call. That better be a special vehicle to require that of us now. Some of these other fine choices are not readily available to all unless in large urban environs.

To compare vehicles in this genre, whatever one wishes to label it as, it must center around cargo volume, performance, and vehicle size. Otherwise it becomes a free-for-all with some espousing the performance characteristics of their favorite when it doesn't meet the requirements for what many of us need to carry.

Perhaps sub-categorization of these fluid nomenclatures might assist those having difficulty deciding on what they desire in this class.

[WWM3]

This will sell like crazy. Home run by BMW.

[emulajavi]

Really good looking car!!


imagine placing on it the X2 upside-down kidneys..... it'd be totally ruined....


I hope the X2 has this style of front end design. Simply perfect and balanced.

[ska///235i]

I think bmw is out of ideas, this is a 1 series hatch up front.
Like all industries, iphone for example...they're not innovating anymore, every new model its just a slight upgrade from the previous gen. At times these companies are actually taking a step backwards.

[JokerElite]

Gorgeous car but another step in the wrong direction by diluting the M brand once again. Why not call it a sport, or M inspired? The gap between the non-M and the M is narrowing. Not to mention this thing probably has just as many badges as the real X3M will have.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by JokerElite

Gorgeous car but another step in the wrong direction by diluting the M brand once again. Why not call it a sport, or M inspired? The gap between the non-M and the M is narrowing. Not to mention this thing probably has just as many badges as the real X3M will have.

It's called ///Marketing.

The M Performance lines are a throwback to the past. So another words this is not new but something that actually broadens the product lines.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Mako

? X3M will compete with Alfa stelvio quad

Alfa doesn't have a direct comparison engine to M40i

E pace will be smaller than X3, F Pace is the competitor here.

Show me a SUV the same size (and cargo capacity) as the X3 with 0-60 times under 5.0 and under $70k. I would put money on the M40i hitting 4.4-4.5 when it's tested with launch control.

Macan S and GTS are both under $70k and run 4.6 and 4.4 to 60. Real world out the door pricing will also keep even optioned ones under $70k. They're not quite as spacious behind the rear seats, but they're larger than the (old) X4.

[BeeMdblU]

so when should we expect to see the ordering guide?

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by dreamspeed

Best things is standard sport seats for xline lol

LOL - yours doesn't have sports seats?

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by dcorn

The only thing I can find to dislike here is the assumed price. Going to pay a premium for the M40i and then have to add tons of stuff like adaptive suspension, the fancy headlights, the digital dash with fancy HUD, adaptive cruise, etc. Gonna be hard to convince my wife to buy a $65k car...

and isn't the point to make it in the US to make it cheaper? This ain't worth no 60k.

[Xtabi]

Is this in the same class as the Porsche Macan? I checked those out and thought they were excellent.

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by SamS

Are there any pics of the cup-holder (tray?) thingy in front of the gear shift opened up? All the pics are not showing up for me.

I think G01 M40i will be my next vehicle. Tempted to wait for X3M, but scared of potential $90K price tag.

X5M starts at $100k, no way X3M hits $90k, more closer to $75k-$80k.

[gongtowjai]

Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

and isn't the point to make it in the US to make it cheaper? This ain't worth no 60k.

I just look at the 2018 X4 M40....no options, 59K base. So I hope it will be less than that...its build in the US....IF it starts at 50-51k base..it will sell like hotcakes...fingers cross. If not, i will look into a used one in 3 yrs time...

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by gongtowjai

I just look at the 2018 X4 M40....no options, 59K base. So I hope it will be less than that...its build in the US....IF it starts at 50-51k base..it will sell like hotcakes...fingers cross. If not, i will look into a used one in 3 yrs time...

I agree that base will be around $51-52k for M40i based on the difference of current X3/X4 and X5/X6. BMW's new pricing strategy, at least in the US, will be to increase the price of higher level trim model relative to base model, and maximum profit margin with the ongoing declining sales volume.

If a customer wants the B58 in either the x-line or luxury line, they are stuck with the I4, otherwise they move up market into the X5. At least the current X5/X6 has a choice of M Sport Package or Luxury package with either 35i or 50i engine.