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      11-13-2020, 09:05 PM   #1
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X4M vs GLC63s VS F-Pace SVR Drag and Roll Race

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hey folks - ran across this video and posted in the G8X forum first trying to stir up a bit of optimism

impressed how the X4M walked away in the roll race, also trapped higher speed than the GLC63S in the standing quarter. 0-60 prob came down more low end grunt and maybe better gearing in the AMG. This video is another confirmation that the 503hp advertised spec is prob more appropriate to rate whp lol

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Well it’s nice to see someone use LC right and very impressed with the GLC
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      11-13-2020, 09:38 PM   #3
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Lovely video. The S58 top end power at full display. I would like to see the X3 M40i vs F-PACE SVR. I think the M40i might win.
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Enjoyed that. I often wonder if the extra cooling that the bmw has helps in these back to back runs.

I saw something similar with the trackhawk where the bmw was consistently fast and the trackhawk was getting heat soaked.

Fwiw did a roll race with a GLC63s from about 70-135. I had the jump but he was very slowly reeling me in...no idea if he was modified.

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Enjoyed that. I often wonder if the extra cooling that the bmw has helps in these back to back runs.

I saw something similar with the trackhawk where the bmw was consistently fast and the trackhawk was getting heat soaked.
Are you meaning from the drag races and that the X4 "won" the last 3 or 4?

That was just the Merc driving getting sleepy......the actual times still had the Merc win every drag race. X4 did seem to be getting better and better results as (presumably) the driver learned how to get the best out of the launch.

Impressive rolling speed!
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Are you meaning from the drag races and that the X4 "won" the last 3 or 4?

That was just the Merc driving getting sleepy......the actual times still had the Merc win every drag race. X4 did seem to be getting better and better results as (presumably) the driver learned how to get the best out of the launch.

Impressive rolling speed!
Yeah the X4M started to pull on the merc as more races went on. I didn’t pay much attention to the specific times they posted.
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Would have liked to have seen the 60ft time on the X3M. It’s odd they didn’t show it as they did for the jag and Merc.

I can get a 1.75 on a tuned X3m40i, tuned X3M’s which match this are way faster in the top end. The video looked more like a 1.9 though, anyone got stock 60ft times for the X3M?
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BMW does a really good job cooling their engines as you could see the effect of heat soak on the GLC while the X3M was unfazed after repeated runs. The top end of the S58 is incredibly strong and one wonders how the M3/M4 will do with this engine.
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Would have liked to have seen the 60ft time on the X3M. It’s odd they didn’t show it as they did for the jag and Merc.

I can get a 1.75 on a tuned X3m40i, tuned X3M’s which match this are way faster in the top end. The video looked more like a 1.9 though, anyone got stock 60ft times for the X3M?
About 1.78-1.85 on stock X3M

Tuned I pull 1.6x all day easy
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GLC wins all the drags from what I can see.
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Awesome work by the F98. Love that GLC, but too bad they upcharge like crazy for those things. Makes the X4M look like a bargain

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Awesome work by the F98. Love that GLC, but too bad they upcharge like crazy for those things. Makes the X4M look like a bargain

GLC63 is an awesome car but they decided to kill the V8 for the upcoming generation.
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Awesome work by the F98. Love that GLC, but too bad they upcharge like crazy for those things. Makes the X4M look like a bargain

GLC63 is an awesome car but they decided to kill the V8 for the upcoming generation.
The C63 is getting a hybrid turbo-4 too.
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Both are rockets! Jag is fast also but just not in the same realm it seems.
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The C63 is getting a hybrid turbo-4 too.
Their high output 4-Cylinder turbo engine is pretty good so I wouldn't discount that it may be as fast or faster coupled with an electric motor. Still losing the beautiful V8 sound is a major hit to the experience.
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The C63 is getting a hybrid turbo-4 too.
Their high output 4-Cylinder turbo engine is pretty good so I wouldn't discount that it may be as fast or faster coupled with an electric motor. Still losing the beautiful V8 sound is a major hit to the experience.
Oh absolutely. It will slap, but that V8 sound will be sorely missed...
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Summary of the numbers (interesting the AMG's 1/4 times vary by only a few hundredths from avg across all six runs):
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Love my wifes glc 63.

Perfect compliment to my m3.

The glc would smoke my m3 off the line. We test drove the x3m before buying the glc. the low end turbo lag on the x3m was ridiculous and the interior quality couldn't be beaten (more important for my wife) so we ended up w the glc.
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but the real question is....

What about the 0-62 time of the G80 RWD and later, of the AWD????????????

Probably the MXdrive versione will stay between 3.5 and 3.6 I guess.
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Their high output 4-Cylinder turbo engine is pretty good so I wouldn't discount that it may be as fast or faster coupled with an electric motor. Still losing the beautiful V8 sound is a major hit to the experience.
I agree that their four cylinder from A45s is pretty nice but it is also, unsurprisingly, rather limited in terms of tuning potential.
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I do find it funny that the Jag is rated the highest by a good margin but actual dynos put all 3 engines in stock form very close to each other. The Jag also doesn't have launch control and the transmission tuning they use isn't as good as the BMW or Merc.
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I do find it funny that the Jag is rated the highest by a good margin but actual dynos put all 3 engines in stock form very close to each other. The Jag also doesn't have launch control and the transmission tuning they use isn't as good as the BMW or Merc.
Jag is also supercharged. The supercharger really helps with the low end power but stands no chance against the top end power of the twin turbos.
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