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      04-25-2018, 08:23 AM   #67
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Considering the aerodynamic advantages (front end and 'aero wheels') of the iX3 , it will be interesting to see how much they've lowered the Cd. Considering the G01 X3 30i's Cd is only 0.29, it would seem possible they're reaching 0.25? For a vehicle this size that would be quite remarkable.
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      04-25-2018, 08:25 AM   #68
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With the I-Pace at around $75K, the iX3 better slot lower due to the performance cut as you point out.

A starting price of $60-$63K is about as much as this vehicle will be worth by the time of release.
This.

Pricing will be king. If someone walks in a BMW dealership looking for a regular X3 2.8i at around $50-60k and is presented with a choice of all electric 250 mile range for $60k, they will be tempted.

The Jag will be expensive, and with questionable reliability despite the reduced number of parts in an EV. They’ll find a way to make it break down.

Battery is the biggest single expense in an EV. There is nothing stopping BMW from putting a 90kw battery in it, or even bigger, for a sportier more expensive model later on.

Let’s see how it develops.
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      04-25-2018, 08:40 AM   #69
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Going to jump on the but it looks like a Kia!! bus because we don't want BMW to go too far down this design road. Kidney grills should be lifted and separated.
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      04-25-2018, 08:52 AM   #70
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Look it's a Kia soul!
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      04-25-2018, 09:00 AM   #71
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Not just the grill, the whole front bumper looks like copied from KIA. I think this goggles kidney design may look good with standard vertical fins instead of Kia like mesh grill.
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      04-25-2018, 09:04 AM   #72
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The iX3 is just fine after all.

Could all of the KIA people please leave now and go buy a KIA since they seem to love them so much that the mistake them for a BMW.

Such wishful and uninformed thinking sounds suspiciously like... well... a KIA driver.

Please go follow your heart as we BMW enthusiasts will continue to move forward.
Actually you have it backward. We are all BMW people and you should go hang on the Kia's forums.

Does Kia have a forum?
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      04-25-2018, 09:08 AM   #73
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just loose the blue bits... I dont think any customer is saying ohhhhhhhww blue trim pieces, this must me an electric vehicle.
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      04-25-2018, 09:21 AM   #74
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Maybe bmw hired Albert bierman as a consultant? Lol
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      04-25-2018, 09:21 AM   #75
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I see "Soul"
Go get your eyes checked.

Is someone paying you to write the same comment is this the best you can come up with
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      04-25-2018, 09:30 AM   #76
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Another BMW design disaster *
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      04-25-2018, 09:42 AM   #77
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I wish I could have a dollar for every beating of the dead horse of a Kia reference...
I've never looked at a Kia long enough to even know what their grills look like.
Well, now you know.
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      04-25-2018, 09:43 AM   #78
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It's due 2020, will have a 75kwh battery and have CCS, so fast charging are supported. I've heard i3X is inext, the name doesn't live up to what we so far have seen... Hopefully there will be more info soon
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I wish I could have a dollar for every beating of the dead horse of a Kia reference...
In other words, you realize that the crowd that doesn’t like the new grill is huge...
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Excellent specs I think really, if access to fast charging will exist. 250 miles - 30 minute fast charge - great sign me.

This to me looks EXCELLENT, I really like it....but that's obvious as it is just an X3 which I already like. All the hype about a next gen model...its the all electric X3 isn't it??? Still if production stays true the air vents are all 'very current M car' which of course is great...but will they remain. Time will tell.
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I'm really looking forward to knowing the electric range of the PHEV X3 and 2020 X5. I have the X5 40e and traded my i3 on a 330e in 2017 because of the lousy ride comfort on Houston's potholed streets. If I had an electric range of 40 miles, rather than the current 15 miles, I could do all of my non-trip driving in electric and still have an ICE for trips. I think I'm still at a PHEV for my next round of leases in 2020, despite the fact that I'm hauling around the full ICE, because of the lack of 150 KW charging stations. Perhaps in 2023 I'll be ready to go full electric.
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Looks like a bootleg BMW
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      04-25-2018, 10:17 AM   #83
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Why aren't the eye glasses covering the eyes???
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Not too bad...better than I expected (other than the wheels). I would rather have this than a Tesla Model 3.
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      04-25-2018, 10:49 AM   #85
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The 400km is definitely disappointing... otherwise this probably would have been on the top of my list for an electric SUV in the next 4-5 years.

And to everyone saying it looks like a Kia... stop exaggerating; I'm not a huge fan of the design either but it does NOT look like a Kia. The new M2 competition and next gen 3 Series (G20/G80) already have kidney grills connected in the middle.
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I wish I could have a dollar for every beating of the dead horse of a Kia reference...
Me too so that I can go buy a car from a different brand like a Pcar
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I see "Soul"
Go get your eyes checked.

Is someone paying you to write the same comment is this the best you can come up with
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