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05-01-2019, 03:03 AM | #1 |
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Poll: Actual interest in X3M / X4M
There seams to be a lot of hate going around for the X3M and X4M but in this day of internet use it's hard to tell whos really just a hating troll.
So I'm curious what people who are actually thinking of buying one of these think.
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Always interested but I'll never approach buying BMW launch car pricing and finance. Hence yes of interest but quite some time away yet.
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#5 - Waiting for test drive before making final judgement
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how can u make a decision on a performance suv w/o even test driving it? :
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Not to mention, we still don't know if the weight was a mis print or not since the Euro documents list it lighter.
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So you think that it is more likely that the US and Euro versions have different weights rather than the website having a typo?
BTW, I did find other errors, like on bmwusa.com they list the competition models as having 503 HP yet the release video they put out and the other specs all say 510 HP. I think the also have the HP of the M4 CS and M3 CS listed wrong too so there is some evidence of mis prints. https://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/m-mo.../overview.html
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For one, it looks identical to the one I have now except the wheels; they look borrowed from an electric car. I won't turn down a test drive though.
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It only takes 25-30 extra HP to negate that 300 lbs of weight gain in comparison to M40i. |
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I'm sure they'll be a blast to drive but there's nothing special in the design for me. They look like "edition" versions, not a full on M car. Not hating, they just don't pique my interest enough due to the styling.
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Planning on leasing not buying lol
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I would have considered it as a do it all car but at $80K it's hard to justify. I guess most would be leasing so it's a moot point. I would seriously consider saving up a bit more for a real deal- i.e M5.
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How about , cant afford, so may have to settle for x3m40i haha
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Yep, hard to believe that it will be heavier guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Plus cross checking multiple bmw sites they all show the X3M and X4M are the same weight as each other and all of those site say the same thing 2045 kg (or 4508.453 lbs) Sorry for the lack of or bad translation to English (I just let Chrome do it) X3M Competition bmw.de (Germany) Curb weight EU in kg 2045 = 4508.453 lbs bmwusa.com (USA) Curb weight (lbs) 4620 bmw.ch (Switzerland) Weight without load in kg 2'045 = 4508.453 lbs bmw.com.mx (Mexico) Peso sin carga en kg (EU) 2.045 = 4508.453 lbs bmw.it (Italy) Massa a vuoto in kg (UE) 2045 = 4508.453 lbs X4M Competition bmw.de Curb weight EU in kg 2045 = 4508.453 lbs bmwusa.com (USA) Curb weight (lbs) 4590 bmw.ch Weight without load in kg 2'045 = 4508.453 lbs bmw.com.mx (Mexico) Peso sin carga UE en kg 2.045 = 4508.453 lbs bmw.it (Italy) Massa a vuoto in kg (UE) 2045 = 4508.453 lbs
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Hi Barathon,
you missed the info from the german brochure on bottom of the page 37: curb weight is based on the car with standard option. it also includes the weight of the driver with a generic weight of 75kg and the tank with 90% full of petrol. 1 liter of petrol is 0.755 kg. Tank capacity is 65 liters. (65*.9)*.755= 44.17kg So the curb weight as we understand here (no driver no petrol) is 1'925.83kg |
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It appears EU is as SANK_CH indicated, empty plus 90%Fuel plus 75kg Driver. DIN is just empty plus 90%Fuel (no Driver). USA curb weight is empty plus 100%Fuel, but also includes (which I didn’t realize until reading Boss330’s thread) the weight of any option expected to be in more than 33% of vehicles sold. For the USA market it is presumed this would then add the 111.6 lbs. moon roof whether a standard feature or not (this wt. estimate from my Carbon Fiber thread). It isn’t supposed to necessarily include the Driver, which Boss indicated is estimated as 68kg in the US, but he and others indicate Mnfrs (including BMW if I understood correctly) will sometimes include this value, but not always across all models. I’ve run a bunch of these numbers on a spreadsheet to get an idea of the differences. As SANK_CH suggested, derived empty weight of X3M EU (after subtracting 75 kg driver and 44.2 kg fuel) is 1925.8 kg (4245.7 lbs.). DIN yields same numbers (after subtracting just the 44.2 kg fuel). USA Curb weight yields 1995.9 kg (4400.2 lbs.) (after subtracting 111.6 lbs. moon roof and 108.2 lbs. for the 100% full fuel tank). This leaves a difference of 70.1 kg (154.5 lbs.) which would fit for a Driver +/- a few kg. This would be in keeping with some reports of BMW including the Driver in US curb wt. calculations. As Boss330 and others suggest, seems best to compare one of the Euro standards (DIN or EU) to obtain apples-apples comparisons. By way of comparison, bmw.de shows the Leergewicht EU of G01 X3 xDr30i at 1790 kg (3946 lbs.), whereas US Curb wt. is listed at 1890 kg (4167 lbs.), for a difference of 221 lbs. And the X3M40i is EU 1885 kg (4156 lbs.) vs USA 1958 kg (4317 lbs.) for a difference of 161 lbs. Basically they are the same cars, so somewhere in those totals differences in the methodology of calculating must be present (moon roof, +/- Driver, 100% fuel vs 90% fuel etc.). Ultimately would be helpful if we could weigh our own vehicles and provide some reference points with rough gas volume taken into consideration, +/- moon roof, wheels, and the like. I’ve never weighed a personal vehicle before so I don’t know the facilities which offer such to the average consumer, the accuracy and precision of the results etc. |
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Pano roof will certainly weigh minimum 100 lbs and possibly as high as 200 lbs and I agree based on above discussion that the 4620 must include that roof.
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