Worlds First Photo's F97 X3M in Alpine White Production Paint

Palbay · 03-22-2018, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FSociety

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Originally Posted by Mako

rumors have been anywhere from 450-475 HP, haven't seen much on torque

I am hoping at least 460 HP 450 torque, BMW rated, meaning it will actually be around 500 HP on dyno and about equal with GLC63 and Stelvio Quad, plus should be lighter than both of them and handle better.
I would expect about a 0.5 second 0-60 difference from the M40i, so maybe 3.9 on the X3M compared to 4.4 of the M40i, real difference will be 0-100, 1/4 mile, and track times.

That would be perfect 0-60 3.9s or better, but exactly the important will be the 1/2 mile, 0-100 and Nurburgring times.

I am hoping for
0-60: 3.8-3.9s and CP 3.5-3.7s
1/4 mile: 12.0-12.1 and CP 11.7-11.8

Palbay definitely appreciate the SPY Pics

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Originally Posted by yllwwgn

Thanks Palbay! I have to know those tire sizes... I swear they look like a 255/45r20 285/40r20 mix. Hmmm....

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Originally Posted by FSociety

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Originally Posted by Mako

rumors have been anywhere from 450-475 HP, haven't seen much on torque

I am hoping at least 460 HP 450 torque, BMW rated, meaning it will actually be around 500 HP on dyno and about equal with GLC63 and Stelvio Quad, plus should be lighter than both of them and handle better.
I would expect about a 0.5 second 0-60 difference from the M40i, so maybe 3.9 on the X3M compared to 4.4 of the M40i, real difference will be 0-100, 1/4 mile, and track times.

That would be perfect 0-60 3.9s or better, but exactly the important will be the 1/2 mile, 0-100 and Nurburgring times.

I am hoping for
0-60: 3.8-3.9s and CP 3.5-3.7s
1/4 mile: 12.0-12.1 and CP 11.7-11.8

Palbay definitely appreciate the SPY Pics

FSociety Thanks much. Appreciated

Palbay · 03-22-2018, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWRichmond

Thank You Pal Bay for the spy shot.

I wonder how much HP & Torque it offers compare to the M40i

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Originally Posted by yllwwgn

Thanks Palbay! I have to know those tire sizes... I swear they look like a 255/45r20 285/40r20 mix. Hmmm....

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Originally Posted by FSociety

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Originally Posted by Mako

rumors have been anywhere from 450-475 HP, haven't seen much on torque

I am hoping at least 460 HP 450 torque, BMW rated, meaning it will actually be around 500 HP on dyno and about equal with GLC63 and Stelvio Quad, plus should be lighter than both of them and handle better.
I would expect about a 0.5 second 0-60 difference from the M40i, so maybe 3.9 on the X3M compared to 4.4 of the M40i, real difference will be 0-100, 1/4 mile, and track times.

That would be perfect 0-60 3.9s or better, but exactly the important will be the 1/2 mile, 0-100 and Nurburgring times.

I am hoping for
0-60: 3.8-3.9s and CP 3.5-3.7s
1/4 mile: 12.0-12.1 and CP 11.7-11.8

Palbay definitely appreciate the SPY Pics

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Originally Posted by BMWRichmond

Thank You Pal Bay for the spy shot.

I wonder how much HP & Torque it offers compare to the M40i

BMWRichmond Thanks much.

M3 Adjuster · 03-22-2018, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako

Then how do you explain X5M vs M5?

3 series used to cost more than X3
I would put money on X3M starting at $70k. X3 M40i doesn't compare to 340i. Brand new vs dated car and lots of things different between them including power.

I'm not sure what you are asking.

M5 is 102,600
X5M is 101,700

M3 is 66,500
X3M ... ?

I sorted it out... it seems like your reply was more for Sam S and in support of my original comment.

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Originally Posted by SamS

Count on $6K more than F80 pricing. The F30 340i is $6K less than the G01 M40i equivalent. There is a premium when you go to the SAV chassis.

not in the 5 series.. but we shall see with the 3 apparently..

@Mako suggests 70K... and my comment was that I expect the X3M to start right around the price of the M3.

JustChris · 03-22-2018, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by M3_WC

Looks narrow, hoping it gets those fender extensions similar to the X5M and wider wheel/tire setup.

Agree. It needs the X5M fender(wheel well) flares bad. It does not look like a M, way too narrow. It should look wider than a regular M40i.

First thing I thought. M flares required.

Nice scoop Palbay

Max Well · 03-22-2018, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako

rumors have been anywhere from 450-475 HP, haven't seen much on torque. I am hoping at least 460 HP 450 torque, BMW rated, meaning it will actually be around 500 HP on dyno and about equal with GLC63 and Stelvio Quad, plus should be lighter than both of them and handle better. I would expect about a 0.5 second 0-60 difference from the M40i, so maybe 3.9 on the X3M compared to 4.4 of the M40i, real difference will be 0-100, 1/4 mile, and track times.

Will be surprised if it is released base power at less than 480 HP. Too much going on in this high-end performance subset right now, with multiple offerings coming down the pike. Granted some will cost 2-3x what this will, but the power offering will be key to how it is perceived. And 0-60 will be down to 3.7s at least for it to hit the blocks running, and that is attainable with such HP and the X3's construct.

Not concerned about the exterior right now as this surely is just a working rendition for getting the components right, as many have suggested.

BMW understands the importance of this SUV/SAV model. They did a great job with the G01 X3 M40i based on all accounts of many who own this, and doubt they'll let the X3 M be anything less than stellar when released.

FSociety · 03-22-2018, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Well

Will be surprised if it is released base power at less than 480 HP. Too much going on in this high-end performance subset right now, with multiple offerings coming down the pike. Granted some will cost 2-3x what this will, but the power offering will be key to how it is perceived. And 0-60 will be down to 3.7s at least for it to hit the blocks running, and that is attainable with such HP and the X3's construct.

Not concerned about the exterior right now as this surely is just a working rendition for getting the components right, as many have suggested.

BMW understands the importance of this SUV/SAV model. They did a great job with the G01 X3 M40i based on all accounts of many who own this, and doubt they'll let the X3 M be anything less than stellar when released.

+100

HPIA4v2 · 03-27-2018, 08:39 AM

There is always a balance between price and hp.
at 500HP, BMW will price this starting at $70K for X3M and $75K for X4M (before options), well I am out at that price range. Just bought an M3 and the baseline for it is $66500 (that's after the latest 2018 price increase, since release probably a good 4-5 times price increases on M3).

To me it'll be around 450-460hp at launch, the comp-package may push it to 475. then LCI at 3-years down the road it may come up with CS/CSL version at 500HP.

But we'll wait and see.

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HPIA4v2 Major 254 Rep 1,391 Posts Drives: F80, F86 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Washington iTrader: (3)	There is always a balance between price and hp. at 500HP, BMW will price this starting at $70K for X3M and $75K for X4M (before options), well I am out at that price range. Just bought an M3 and the baseline for it is $66500 (that's after the latest 2018 price increase, since release probably a good 4-5 times price increases on M3). To me it'll be around 450-460hp at launch, the comp-package may push it to 475. then LCI at 3-years down the road it may come up with CS/CSL version at 500HP. But we'll wait and see.
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