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      09-07-2018, 02:42 PM   #23
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Sure. I get a drop down message that hangs out for ~30 seconds, and when that goes away there's a red indicator on the CarPlay messages app icon to indicate there are new messages (same as on the iPhone). This is in the left side bar, you don't have to go to the home screen to see it. The screen is literally right in front of my face, so I don't often not see the drop down.

I don't mind not having the music mute and a chime every single time I get a message while driving. It stresses me out to try to maintain a conversation that way. I much prefer to see the indicator and have the messages read to me when I'm cruising or not in the middle of a good song.
For me all that would be fine IF the rest of the iDrive system was still available (like Nav). CarPlay is either all or nothing. And the fact that I cannot use Wifi to stream music or for data and instead have to connect to LTE and use my data is just a bad implementation.
Wrong. You can search for a destination in CarPlay then send it to iDrive nav. Also, the BMW icon on the first CP menu allows access iDrive functionality.

Until iOS 12 lets Waze replace Maps in CP, this is how I use the nav system. There's a YT video from BMW "Genius" on exactly this topic. I think it's in the X3 owners playlist.
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Wrong. You can search for a destination in CarPlay then send it to iDrive nav. Also, the BMW icon on the first CP menu allows access iDrive functionality.

Until iOS 12 lets Waze replace Maps in CP, this is how I use the nav system. There's a YT video from BMW "Genius" on exactly this topic. I think it's in the X3 owners playlist.
Well, for me when I am in the BMW nav, nothing happens in CarPlay. When I am in CarPlay i cannot access Nav or other iDrive. Like I said, I may be missing something but the essence seems to be you are either using CarPlay for everything or not. I'll keep playing with it though since it seems I am missing something
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Wrong. You can search for a destination in CarPlay then send it to iDrive nav. Also, the BMW icon on the first CP menu allows access iDrive functionality.

Until iOS 12 lets Waze replace Maps in CP, this is how I use the nav system. There's a YT video from BMW "Genius" on exactly this topic. I think it's in the X3 owners playlist.
Well, for me when I am in the BMW nav, nothing happens in CarPlay. When I am in CarPlay i cannot access Nav or other iDrive. Like I said, I may be missing something but the essence seems to be you are either using CarPlay for everything or not. I'll keep playing with it though since it seems I am missing something
When you're connected to CarPlay, everything sort of defaults to CarPlay. But you can still back out and use iDrive nav or radios at least. Maybe not iDrive phone calls or texts.
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      09-07-2018, 06:45 PM   #27
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Well, for me when I am in the BMW nav, nothing happens in CarPlay. When I am in CarPlay i cannot access Nav or other iDrive. Like I said, I may be missing something but the essence seems to be you are either using CarPlay for everything or not. I'll keep playing with it though since it seems I am missing something
See below and https://youtu.be/8wzD9Fk8SfU

CarPlay and iDrive integration is remarkably well done.
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See below and https://youtu.be/8wzD9Fk8SfU

CarPlay and iDrive integration is remarkably well done.
I make use of this feature a lot, but I do it a little differently. Once you’ve got the CarPlay screen up, you can use the Maps app on your iPhone directly to do the search, and the CarPlay screen updates in real time. Then I tap the “Send to BMW Nav” link. I like doing it this way because I can type so much faster on my phone, and I can copy/paste an address in if need be, etc.
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I make use of this feature a lot, but I do it a little differently. Once you’ve got the CarPlay screen up, you can use the Maps app on your iPhone directly to do the search, and the CarPlay screen updates in real time. Then I tap the “Send to BMW Nav” link. I like doing it this way because I can type so much faster on my phone, and I can copy/paste an address in if need be, etc.
Good technique -- but it looks like some posters haven't figured out that iDrive nav and CP play together brilliantly.
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Good technique -- but it looks like some posters haven't figured out that iDrive nav and CP play together brilliantly.
While it may send it to iDrive Nav, once in iDrive Nav, CarPlay does not work (at least notification and texts). I would hope the music still plays. I do not call that playing together brilliantly. If that were the case, I can send an address from google maps on my computer to BMW iDrive. Does that mean my computer plays together brilliantly with my BMW?

While one may send data to the other, they cannot both function at the same time. Not to mention the data all has to come from the Cellular connection and not the Wifi....

Again, to each their own. Some may have more of a use for CarPlay, I do not find it offers anything that iDrive does not (at least for me). I was hoping there would be some revelation about CarPlay that I was not seeing beyond it can send an address to iDrive....
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What's wrong with the messaging? It reads and I dictate to it all the time. I get a notification, it reads, asks if I want to respond, reads what it plans to send, or I can initiate.
You can't read messages - even when you are parked. You can't go through your older messages easily - which is useful if you've received a bunch and haven't responded to them yet. I don't need it to be dictated to me all the time - I can choose when to dictate to me with Android integration. Also, I get a persistent notification - a little message bubble on the instrument cluster and one next to the clock on the iDrive screen. God forbid I miss the drop down notification, but I guess I can look for the badge number on the icon. It's just not very flexible.
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Good technique -- but it looks like some posters haven't figured out that iDrive nav and CP play together brilliantly.
While it may send it to iDrive Nav, once in iDrive Nav, CarPlay does not work (at least notification and texts). I would hope the music still plays. I do not call that playing together brilliantly. If that were the case, I can send an address from google maps on my computer to BMW iDrive. Does that mean my computer plays together brilliantly with my BMW?

While one may send data to the other, they cannot both function at the same time. Not to mention the data all has to come from the Cellular connection and not the Wifi....

Again, to each their own. Some may have more of a use for CarPlay, I do not find it offers anything that iDrive does not (at least for me). I was hoping there would be some revelation about CarPlay that I was not seeing beyond it can send an address to iDrive....
Sheesh...ever heard of split screen?
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Sheesh...ever heard of split screen?
You can't do split screen with CarPlay. (According to BMW). But since you insist I will give it another go next time I am in.
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Sheesh...ever heard of split screen?
You can't do split screen with CarPlay. (According to BMW). But since you insist I will give it another go next time I am in.
It's kind of the opposite. Can only do split screen. Annoyingly CarPlay will only use the left of a split screen. No full screen. That's one of the worst parts of BMW's CarPlay integration.
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It's kind of the opposite. Can only do split screen. Annoyingly CarPlay will only use the left of a split screen. No full screen. That's one of the worst parts of BMW's CarPlay integration.
How do you get iDrive nav or XM on the right of the split screen as suggested?
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It's kind of the opposite. Can only do split screen. Annoyingly CarPlay will only use the left of a split screen. No full screen. That's one of the worst parts of BMW's CarPlay integration.
How do you get iDrive nav or XM on the right of the split screen as suggested?
With CarPlay (or anything) on the left, you right click the iDrive controller to select the right screen. Click the controller and the list of choices for the right side appear. And just select one.
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With CarPlay (or anything) on the left, you right click the iDrive controller to select the right screen. Click the controller and the list of choices for the right side appear. And just select one.
Thanks for that. I did not even try it as the BMW video's I saw explaining CarPlay specifically stated Split screen does not work when using CarPlay.

This might make it more useful. I will have to gove it a run through on the next few drives. However, the inability to connect to the car's hotspot may be the ultimate deal breaker for me...I am in the car A lot and do not have an unlimited data plan on my cell due to well priced grandfathered plans...
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With CarPlay (or anything) on the left, you right click the iDrive controller to select the right screen. Click the controller and the list of choices for the right side appear. And just select one.
Thanks for that. I did not even try it as the BMW video's I saw explaining CarPlay specifically stated Split screen does not work when using CarPlay.

This might make it more useful. I will have to gove it a run through on the next few drives. However, the inability to connect to the car's hotspot may be the ultimate deal breaker for me...I am in the car A lot and do not have an unlimited data plan on my cell due to well priced grandfathered plans...
Anybody know why we can't use cable connection for car play as an alternative? Would enable Wifi via hotspot...

On the other hand I am one of the lucky ones with a true unlimited data plan, so I don't care that much. :-)
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I'm not impressed with CarPlay. When I use Shazam while using CarPlay, the voice command goes crazy...
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With CarPlay (or anything) on the left, you right click the iDrive controller to select the right screen. Click the controller and the list of choices for the right side appear. And just select one.
Thanks for that. I did not even try it as the BMW video's I saw explaining CarPlay specifically stated Split screen does not work when using CarPlay.

This might make it more useful. I will have to gove it a run through on the next few drives. However, the inability to connect to the car's hotspot may be the ultimate deal breaker for me...I am in the car A lot and do not have an unlimited data plan on my cell due to well priced grandfathered plans...
Anybody know why we can't use cable connection for car play as an alternative? Would enable Wifi via hotspot...

On the other hand I am one of the lucky ones with a true unlimited data plan, so I don't care that much. :-)
Given the choice, I love wireless CarPlay over wired. It was one of the big pluses for choosing a BMW. But I'd love to have both as options. I get a tiny audio delay wireless which is annoying watching videos.

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You ask Siri via the car what song is playing on your car?
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Sheesh...ever heard of split screen?
You can't do split screen with CarPlay. (According to BMW). But since you insist I will give it another go next time I am in.
Adding Starz26 to ignore list. Wouldn't put up with such negativity IRL; no need to waste my screen time on it here.
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Adding Starz26 to ignore list. Wouldn't put up with such negativity IRL; no need to waste my screen time on it here.
Wow nice. I was not being negative, I was agreeing that since you said it was possible I would give it another go.

I did try it and split screen does work so that makes it a bit more useful.

if anything you were the one being a bit rude.

For reference, at 0:52-1:04 is where BMW Genius says that Split Screen is limited or unavailable.


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Given the choice, I love wireless CarPlay over wired. It was one of the big pluses for choosing a BMW. But I'd love to have both as options. I get a tiny audio delay wireless which is annoying watching videos.
I haven't really tried digging too far into the iDrive stuff yet so I'm not going to compare CarPlay and iDrive, but I'm with you that wireless CarPlay has been much better than wired...at least as I compare the experience from my BMW to my Audi.

The Lightning connection in the wired CarPlay in my Audi only works on its first try, like, 60% of the time. I will usually have to unplug and re-plug the cable after driving for a few seconds and making sure the infotainment isn't doing other stuff (i.e. backup cam). That usually fixes it. But I'd say a good 5-10% of the time, I have to reboot the infotainment altogether and try again.

That's too much hassle. I thought the problem was CarPlay because it DID improve a lot when I moved from an iPhone 6 to an iPhone X...but all those %s I'm listing above are for AFTER I got the newer phone.

Once I started using the BMW's CarPlay system, it's like night and day. But I agree...I'm nitpicky about not wanting the songs to delay when I change them, etc., and you get that with the wireless - but I'll trade the reliability for that any day of the week.

And I'm sure watching videos is horrible, but that's really true of a lot of (or all?) Bluetooth stuff. I don't personally have a need for it - but if it's a feature that is on the car, you want it to work if you want it to use it.

All that is to say - I bet my Audi's CarPlay sucks because of Audi's implementation, not because it's wired. And so it would be nice if I could plug in to get charged, eliminate the delay, and likely pump higher quality audio since it doesn't have to be compressed over Bluetooth (I'm assuming that's what happens?...not sure what the "enhanced" Bluetooth really does).
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For me, CarPlay has been a positive experience overall. The ease of using Spotify versus via BT is my main use case, and the wireless implementation in the BMW is pretty error-free. The big letdown is really just Apple Maps being unreliable, but with iOS 12 opening that up to Google Maps and Waze, I don't think I will ever use the BMW navigation again. The lack of HUD integration doesn't really bother me, fortunately.

Also, the really big benefit to CarPlay is that as iPhone/CarPlay apps get updated, so does the functionality in the infotainment system, which would otherwise never be significantly improved past the purchase date. It basically turns your iDrive screen into a touchscreen monitor where you can plug in new hardware/software in the future.
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