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      06-12-2021, 01:40 PM   #243
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Is there any change to the ride quality?
Yes, softer...
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Is there any change to the ride quality?
Yes, softer...
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Was he looking for a non-M ride on an M car?
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      06-12-2021, 01:56 PM   #245
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Oh my god so many salty 20/21 owners!

This car looks great and it's a solid update. Would take it in a hot second over the outgoing model.

Unfortunately, I'm an impatient mofo and can't wait a year to get the same kind of discounts + allocations that are available for an X3M (I locked in May, now is a different story.

Waiting for my '21 to get built and will be happy taking delivery of it, but I love this new X3M.

Let's see how I am feeling in one year, maybe I switch then…
Well, looks like I'm sol… apparently no new allocations for X3Ms coming out (per dealership, who knows if they), so my car won't be built (never had my allocation in hand).

Fortunately the dealership is honoring my deal, but not sure how much I'll have to wait. Probably until august for an allocation.

Thankfully, I really like the new design…
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Is there any change to the ride quality?
Yes, softer...
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Was he looking for a non-M ride on an M car?
No need for it to be so harsh in comfort. There should be a setting to get it to be at least no more harsh than my F82 comp in sport.
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      06-12-2021, 04:57 PM   #247
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Am I the only one seeing a BMW copy of 2018 Toyota Prius Prime design language?

I mean the design lines practically line up exactly ...
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Yes! Yes you are.
Well, i do agree the X3M looks way more fancy Santa Monica hipster, than sporty:

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Whoever said the tail lights look like the Halo energy sword was spot on. Can't un-see it.
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      06-13-2021, 06:18 PM   #249
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Whoever said the tail lights look like the Halo energy sword was spot on. Can't un-see it.
Obvs I'm no photoshop expert & since I'm a man w/ a job who likes sex I wasn't super familiar with the Halo Energy Sword ... but in 5 min I was able to whip up this:



Damn if it ain't almost an exact match!

So the X3M looks like a Santa Monica hipster gamer with Halo stickers on his ass. Huh.


One year ago at the BMW M GmbH Garching X3 design shop, day 8:

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These are inconspicuous mud flaps I'm assuming….subtle…..
Not mud flaps. Its a regulation of some sort about how much of the tire is covered by the body or something like that. A lot of new cars seem to have it.
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These are inconspicuous mud flaps I'm assuming….subtle…..
Not mud flaps. Its a regulation of some sort about how much of the tire is covered by the body or something like that. A lot of new cars seem to have it.
Correct, it's a regulation. Tire not supposed to stick out further than the body, at least in the rear. Not sure about the front. My '18 GLC43 (all AMG GLC's) had a similar lip to meet the reg.

Like both pre-LCI and this one on the outside for most part. Interior is ok, but I've always preferred the old school round dials of the 20 vs the video game look of the dials now. Oh well, we'll see what a test drive brings…either back to BMW or a GLC63S.
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      06-13-2021, 08:45 PM   #251
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Yikes.

The styling looks like a mash-up of Transformers and Minecraft.

The added front fascia space due to the smaller headlights is odd.

Hope a DME unlock is around the corner for my 2021, but she runs good with the RaceChip.

+37 ft/lb. Nice.
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Normal disagreements about visual changes aside, the engine changes are more than welcome.

BMW decision to maintain "four-piston fixed calipers at the front and single-piston floating calipers at the rear" remains puzzling. This vehicle needs better brakes with 6-piston calipers in the front and 4-piston calipers in the rear.

I like X4MC. It's in shopping cart together with other vehicles.
The X3 MC has great breaks.

Piston count has little to do with brake effectiveness.

The AP Racing kits on my track cars are all 4-piston & they work phenomenally.

I instruct for BMW & took the X3MC out at VIR last month.

While I was conservative in braking, I never ran out of brakes with nothing but a fluid change to SRF.
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Do you guys know how long does it take them to put the configurator up for the us site?
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      06-14-2021, 02:45 PM   #254
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Well my order is in!

September build, November delivery (at least what I e been told so far). Should be one of the earlier cars in the UK.

Can't wait!

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      06-14-2021, 02:54 PM   #255
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The X3 MC has great breaks.

Piston count has little to do with brake effectiveness.

The AP Racing kits on my track cars are all 4-piston & they work phenomenally.

I instruct for BMW & took the X3MC out at VIR last month.

While I was conservative in braking, I never ran out of brakes with nothing but a fluid change to SRF.
djhartm69, I am also a big fan of AP Racing brakes

There is a lot of confusion about brakes and 4-piston and 6-piston calipers.

While tires help the vehicle stop, brakes create clamping force. Clamping force is a result of several elements working together - while meeting a myriad of requirements such as weight, size, cost, brake pad size / shape, ease of brake pad changes, and stiffness.

- Line pressure: generated by the master cylinder
- Rotor size: influences leverage / effective radius
- Number of pistons and size of pistons: or piston volume which directly translates into the clamping force

The number of pistons has no absolute bearing on the clamping force. 4, 6, or even 8 piston calipers with the same piston volume will offer the same clamping force (a simplified view).

The actual differences in clamping force depend on the size of pistons, spacing of pistons, how the caliper was designed (AP Racing calipers are a work of art), and size / shape of the brake pad.

So how can a 6-piston caliper be more effective? It can - if properly designed.

The brake pad can be larger (visually taller following the outer edge of the rotor) increasing the contact area. The brake pad surface area is a function of how brake force is calculated. In addition, as 6-pistons work together to distribute pressure on the brake pad, the brake pad taper is reduced. Brake pad taper reduces contact area, decreasing clamping force. Longer and wider brakes pads dissipate the heat better.

In a 6-piston caliper, pistons can be smaller and placed farther from the rotor center increasing leverage.

In short - it's worthwhile to understand how brakes are designed.

AlexFL experience with Brembo GT brakes on X3M at https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1723703.

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The X3 MC has great breaks.

Piston count has little to do with brake effectiveness.

The AP Racing kits on my track cars are all 4-piston & they work phenomenally.

I instruct for BMW & took the X3MC out at VIR last month.

While I was conservative in braking, I never ran out of brakes with nothing but a fluid change to SRF.
djhartm69, I am also a big fan of AP Racing brakes

There is a lot of confusion about brakes and 4-piston and 6-piston brakes.

While tires help the vehicle stop, brakes create clamping force. Clamping force is a result of several elements working together - while meeting a myriad of requirements such as weight, size, cost, brake pad size / shape, ease of brake pad changes, and stiffness.

- Line pressure: generated by the master cylinder
- Rotor size: influences leverage / effective radius
- Number of pistons and size of pistons: or piston volume which directly translates into the clamping force

The number of pistons has no absolute bearing on the clamping force. 4, 6, or even 8 piston calipers with the same piston volume will offer the same clamping force (a simplified view).

The actual differences in clamping force depend on the size of pistons, spacing of pistons, how the caliper was designed (AP Racing calipers are a work of art), and size / shape of the brake pad.

So how can a 6-piston caliper be more effective? It can - if properly designed.

The brake pad can be larger (visually taller following the outer edge of the rotor) increasing the contact area. The brake pad surface area is a function of how brake force is calculated. In addition, as 6-pistons work together to distribute pressure on the brake pad, the brake pad taper is reduced. Brake pad taper reduces contact area, decreasing clamping force. Longer and wider brakes pads dissipate the heat better.

In a 6-piston caliper, pistons can be smaller and placed farther from the rotor center increasing leverage.

In short - it's worthwhile to understand how brakes are designed.

AlexFL experience with Brembo GT brakes on X3M at https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1723703.
Informative post.
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      06-14-2021, 04:45 PM   #257
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Does anyone have the Order and Price Guides with on-line coming out Wednesday - I would think dealers have them! Thanks
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Obvs I'm no photoshop expert & since I'm a man w/ a job who likes sex I wasn't super familiar with the Halo Energy Sword ... but in 5 min I was able to whip up this:



Damn if it ain't almost an exact match!

So the X3M looks like a Santa Monica hipster gamer with Halo stickers on his ass. Huh.


One year ago at the BMW M GmbH Garching X3 design shop, day 8:

HA! Thank you for the photoshop — case in point! I’m likely younger than most on this forum, so wasn’t sure folks would get the Halo reference.
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HA! Thank you for the photoshop — case in point! I’m likely younger than most on this forum, so wasn’t sure folks would get the Halo reference.
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Would really appreciate Order and Price Guides if someone has good dealer connection to pdf them. Thanks
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Is the configuration not up where you are? The uk one has been at least since the beginning of this week.
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Obvs I'm no photoshop expert & since I'm a man w/ a job who likes sex I wasn't super familiar with the Halo Energy Sword ... but in 5 min I was able to whip up this:



Damn if it ain't almost an exact match!

So the X3M looks like a Santa Monica hipster gamer with Halo stickers on his ass. Huh.
^^^ Naw, I think you're close but a touch off the mark bruh. The tail lights are actually the exact same design of the 21" X3 M wheel spokes. Check it out...

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