[bocabimmer]

Originally Posted by bmwmotorrad46

Wow! So many catfish jumped here

Would you be driving your car or car drives you everywhere in the future ?

If bmw drivers are rich , they would pay for the service to get anywhere , only poor people have to drive

Electric cars : more reliable, less parts to manufacture, faster and cost less to own

I didn’t switch to electric car , this is just my opinion

I switched to minivan as my family grows ,
I need a practical car .

Some of you smart people would say “dude , there’s 2
Series if you live in Europe. Well 2 series is not a minivan, already checked when I was in Europe , terrible car

Yes I’ll drive my car everywhere until L5 is here and well proven. I’m a minority though. Automakers know this and they’ll charge subscriptions and fees and people rich and poor will go into debt to get these toys. Not getting on that bandwagon now means missing out on future revenue opportunities.

Electric cars: had two, love em, love that there’s more choice in the market now. Statistical studies show that despite less parts they still break down, and when they do they cost more than ICE and hybrids. Thats part of why I don't currently own one.

Basically you left BMW because of your bounteous and productive loins (so did I when our second child came along). X5 just couldn't cut it. Got a minivan too, sold it to get something that drove better.

… so are you saying BMW lost its way because they didn’t make a minivan?

Oddly enough I would buy one if they did. 🤣

[gphin]

Originally Posted by bmwmotorrad46

Wow! So many catfish jumped here

Would you be driving your car or car drives you everywhere in the future ?

If bmw drivers are rich , they would pay for the service to get anywhere , only poor people have to drive

Electric cars : more reliable, less parts to manufacture, faster and cost less to own

I didn’t switch to electric car , this is just my opinion

I switched to minivan as my family grows ,
I need a practical car .

Some of you smart people would say “dude , there’s 2
Series if you live in Europe. Well 2 series is not a minivan, already checked when I was in Europe , terrible car

Sorry, wrong opinion here Mr New Englander. Guess you missed the articles on electric cars piling up on dealer lots. Here's a few reasons why, fyi. No hard feelings, enjoy the minivan!
https://www.hotcars.com/most-glaring-problems-with-evs/

[Oldgixxer]

[Leem40i]

Originally Posted by bmwmotorrad46

Wow! So many catfish jumped here

Would you be driving your car or car drives you everywhere in the future ?

If bmw drivers are rich , they would pay for the service to get anywhere , only poor people have to drive

Electric cars : more reliable, less parts to manufacture, faster and cost less to own

I didn’t switch to electric car , this is just my opinion

I switched to minivan as my family grows ,
I need a practical car .

Some of you smart people would say “dude , there’s 2
Series if you live in Europe. Well 2 series is not a minivan, already checked when I was in Europe , terrible car

This part of your reply
"Electric cars : more reliable, less parts to manufacture, faster and cost less to own "
Tells me you do absolutly no research on anything.

[biz77]

This thread delivers. Here’s what I’ve learned…

BMW’s lost its way because you needed a minivan.

Electric vehicles are far superior to ICE vehicles.

But for some reason, you bought a minivan with an ICE engine?

[BMWbiker]

Originally Posted by bmwmotorrad46

Hi All

Driving BMWs, testing pretty much all I could models, attending all BMW driving events, visited factories and museums but my journey has come to end.

I even contacted with Chris Bangle (yes he wrote me back multiple times) about his designs, how BMW lost its way and traded in it's soul to sell more but eventually end up being a generic brand

Industry is heading to all electric + autonomous cars as BMW's information systems - so called iDrive - is still not working properly. THey are very far behind...

I did not switch to Tesla, any European brand or Lexus by the way...

BMW is a company that makes cars. (Motorcycles as well, but I digress.)

If BMW doesn’t currently make the correct vehicle for you, then buy the correct vehicle from the company that does.

[bbb83]

This isn’t an airport, you don’t need to announce your departure

[alex2364]

Originally Posted by bmwmotorrad46

Wow! So many catfish jumped here

Would you be driving your car or car drives you everywhere in the future ?

If bmw drivers are rich , they would pay for the service to get anywhere , only poor people have to drive

Electric cars : more reliable, less parts to manufacture, faster and cost less to own

I didn’t switch to electric car , this is just my opinion

I switched to minivan as my family grows ,
I need a practical car .

Some of you smart people would say “dude , there’s 2
Series if you live in Europe. Well 2 series is not a minivan, already checked when I was in Europe , terrible car

Is there even a coherent thought in this post?

[Tchgrif]

THIS, is life

if only BMW made an electric./ICE minivan but in some sort of retro fashun.

but seriously op post more, im loving this free association

[bocabimmer]

Originally Posted by Tchgrif

THIS, is life

if only BMW made an electric./ICE minivan but in some sort of retro fashun.

but seriously op post more, im loving this free association

A sport minivan would sell like crazy… or I’m completely overestimating the demand.

I wish BMW kept the 3 row X5 and also took a look at Kia’s implementation of how a second row should move to gain access to the third row… slow electric motors in the X5/7 render it absolutely useless as a family hauler if you need that 3rd row.

[lfdal54]

Originally Posted by bocabimmer

A sport minivan would sell like crazy… or I’m completely overestimating the demand.

I wish BMW kept the 3 row X5 and also took a look at Kia’s implementation of how a second row should move to gain access to the third row… slow electric motors in the X5/7 render it absolutely useless as a family hauler if you need that 3rd row.

Off-topic, whatever the topic of this thread is, but I wonder if BMW dumped the 3-row X5 to push people into the X7?

[bocabimmer]

Originally Posted by lfdal54

Off-topic, whatever the topic of this thread is, but I wonder if BMW dumped the 3-row X5 to push people into the X7?

This thread went off the rails a longtime ago so why not.

Short answer: kind of. I was talking to a friend who is some kind of engineer at Spartanburg. He said the 3 row X5 was never a huge seller and the X7 is very much a US market item. It helps consolidate production options on the X5 and also promote X7 sales this way now.

[BobBMWX3]

I love this thread...I want people to announce departures more often if this is the result...haha.

[ASAP]

i dont think id have a minivan u til i had kids but the kia carnival sx looks ok

[Oldgixxer]

Originally Posted by bocabimmer

A sport minivan would sell like crazy… or I’m completely overestimating the demand.

Mercedes made the R63 AMG and it was a huge flop.

There was one at a private Atco rental I attended back in the day;made 2 passes w best of 13.5sec and then the AWD trans grenaded at the 330'

[GDEvans]

Who is Chris Bangle?

Is he Egyptian? Or is it just the way he walks?

[bocabimmer]

Originally Posted by GDEvans

Who is Chris Bangle?

Is he Egyptian? Or is it just the way he walks?

Ironically he designed some of the classic BMW models… and also some pretty awful ones like the ugly 5, parrot fish mouth 6, and “Bangle Butt” 7.

Originally Posted by Oldgixxer

Mercedes made the R63 AMG and it was a huge flop.

There was one at a private Atco rental I attended back in the day;made 2 passes w best of 13.5sec and then the AWD trans grenaded at the 330'

The R class was a flop for a variety of reasons, ^ the quality being one of them.

Originally Posted by ASAP

i dont think id have a minivan u til i had kids but the kia carnival sx looks ok

It is a good option. But there are still plenty of SUVs that work and would be more fun to drive… maybe just not as space efficient.

[Jimmyohdez]

F

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by lfdal54

Off-topic, whatever the topic of this thread is, but I wonder if BMW dumped the 3-row X5 to push people into the X7?

It was dumped because kids don't stay grocery-size forever!

[EWL5]

I guess OP didn't get the recent memo that Tesla has abandoned even their Supercharging network and given up leases!

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesl...ndustry-2024-5

[dinan5m3]

Fuck Tesla.

Hello G07.

Damn, B58 just will NOT let me go...




With all the audio BS been going around here, will settle this once and for all. Will "real" audiophile please stand up, lol...

[Rottweiler]

Originally Posted by dinan5m3

Fuck Tesla.

Hello G07.

Damn, B58 just will NOT let me go...




With all the audio BS been going around here, will settle this once and for all. Will "real" audiophile please stand up, lol...

I bet that system sounds killer