[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by jfritz27

Undertired much? WTH...

Agreed, but that seems to be relatively "normal" for M cars these days. Even with 295s on the back of my F80, I feel like it could use wider rubber.

The M2/M2C are even more under-tired....

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by kozzi

From what I have seen so far, seats will be available on the base unit as an option. As others have mentioned, the additional $7,000 USD from base to competition includes seats, wheels and other goodies.

Figure the wheels are a $1,000 upgrade, increased HP would be equivalent to a Dinan Stage 1 tune ($3,000 including labor, this is comparable due to the warranty that other vendors don't include), seat upgrades $1,000, and M suspension tune (comp tune) $1,000. Estimated 'upgrade' pricing is based on BMW series option pricing. Figure $6,000 in 'upgrades', which is on par with the F80/82 competition package with the M///tax profit.

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by 0-60Motorsports

Absolutely LOVE the X3M....im already dreaming mods....But i would only buy the face-lift for any generation vehicle....so i'll wait and see what you crazy owners do to your vehicles.....

That's why you lease, one at model intro and next at LCI.

[desertfox73]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

Doesn't apply to me; have already $3,000 in monthly lease payments to BMW FS.

Ha - I have the same stable...it's a great pair.

[themnmd]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

Doesn't apply to me; have already $3,000 in monthly lease payments to BMW FS.

yikes

[Mako]

Originally Posted by bjornb

I am sad about the rear tires..

GLC63 S has 265 on the front and 295 on the rear with 21 inch

Whilst the X4M only has 255 on the front and 265 on the rear with 21 inch

The wide tires like the x5m and x6m made it so cool.. they had 325 atleast i was hoping for 285 or 295 on the X4M..

would it be able to fit 295? also do we think we can get a full leather dash?

Yeah my M3 19" wheels are 275. Really sad they are 265 on a larger vehicle with bigger wheels. Doesn't make much sense. Has to be spacing issue with car design.

[Alan l.]

Can any engine experts tell if BMW fixed the crank hub design on the S58? Its the biggest weak link on the S55...

Alan

[Mako]

Originally Posted by khailuan

Best looking performance SUVs on
the market !

F Pace SVR and Macan Turbo are pretty good looking. Think I like F Pace more than X3 but Jaguar/LR always have such bad electronics and infotainment problems.

I can't be only one looking at SVR over this.
280 lbs lighter, V8 with 550hp and 502 torque
Price probably right with Comp version of X3M

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

Agreed, but that seems to be relatively "normal" for M cars these days. Even with 295s on the back of my F80, I feel like it could use wider rubber.

The M2/M2C are even more under-tired....

It's like BMW has decided never to exceed 265 mm width ...

Oh you want bigger ? Well how about larger diameter 21s.. same width ..

[Kaylo]

Very excited. Waited a long time for this.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Can any engine experts tell if BMW fixed the crank hub design on the S58? Its the biggest weak link on the S55...

Alan

If someone told you they had ... would you believe it ??..

[beammeupscottie]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

Figure the wheels are a $1,000 upgrade, increased HP would be equivalent to a Dinan Stage 1 tune ($3,000 including labor, this is comparable due to the warranty that other vendors don't include), seat upgrades $1,000, and M suspension tune (comp tune) $1,000. Estimated 'upgrade' pricing is based on BMW series option pricing. Figure $6,000 in 'upgrades', which is on par with the F80/82 competition package with the M///tax profit.

I think I'm in then for the CP....now for the US prices...$70k for base M start and $77k for CP? Optioned up are we looking at $87k CP optioned up??? Thats a bargain if so...Macan Turbo breaches $98k with their Performance Packaging...plus rates on BMW are far less than competitors...

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by DCG

Wanted: X4M with a Carbon Fiber Roof with a Tule rack. Don't want a heavy breakable and a potentially leak hazard panoramic moonroof and useless roof rails.

The wheels look better than anticipated. Everything is looks pretty legit especially the interior cockpit and seats. The only thing missing is really the more aggressive bulging wheel arches I was hoping for. Perhaps in time.

Oh and they could've done away with the whole "Competition" badging part. Just make it an "MC", you don't need to spell out "Competition" on everything.

Leak hazard .....

Neither of my 1991 M3 with standard sunroof ever leaked, ever and I owned one car for 13 years.

The two E46 325 (2001, 2004 ) convertibles I have owned (oops also a 2003 E46M3 ) have never leaked and i sold the former away at 237k miles in 2015 and it spent the last 7 years of life outside in TEXAS.

I've never had a drip in my 2013 X1 with double panoramic roof either .. nor do I ever expect it to happen. Even if one simply hates moonroofs , a leak issue is not likely and is absolutely the least of your concerns.

How sloppy you are with your skis however ...

PS.. you might want to get a THULE rack...

[Alan l.]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

If someone told you they had ... would you believe it ??..

Well i figure some of those pics are pretty revealing showing the front of the crank so those with experience with this might know. Just curious.

[Saphirschwarz]

how is this priced ? above an M3 ?

[bm3tuning]

Originally Posted by Saphirschwarz

how is this priced ? above an M3 ?

Hopefully same

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Well i figure some of those pics are pretty revealing showing the front of the crank so those with experience with this might know. Just curious.

I haven't seen a perfect motor from BMW yet.

In my experience there has been some design flaw on so many motors .. it will simply be what's next.

E30 M3 - shim oil pump , oil pan baffle needed
e36 M3 - safety wire oil pump
E46 M3 - bearings, oil pump , BMW extended warranty while in production ..
E90 M3 - replace bearings as PM? Etc
F80 M.. - crank Issue you mentioned
G80 M... ???

So... more than likely S58 will develop some sort of character flaw in the next 3-5 years ..

Don't sweat the technique ..

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by desertfox73

Ha - I have the same stable...it's a great pair.

My total is 3 vehicles, 2019 X3sDrive, 2018 F85, & 2018 F83. Have my eyes on the F95 and M8 comp for my replacement M's.

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by themnmd

yikes

2 of the 3 leases are business expenses.

[Mako]

Originally Posted by Saphirschwarz

how is this priced ? above an M3 ?

depends how you look at it, starts at just over $70,000 so a few thousand more than M3, but has AWD (which is normally $2K) and looks to have a few more "standard" things as well.

M3 with AWD (if it was an option) and DCT would start higher right now.

[M3GymNut]

Originally Posted by Mako

Seat colors, it says sakhir orange/black or gray

does that mean the ones in pictures and an option for black instead of gray? a bit confused by that, the gray doesn't look that good and really would only go with certain exterior colors. I wonder if Sakhir orange and the toronto red will clash?

Absolutely it will.

[Fugly M3]

Looks great...would have had me on an X3M if a tow pack were available.