[MaC-N54-E82]

Didn’t say, nor would I say one derogatory thing about the G87. I happen to enjoy both cars and am ecstatic BMW gives car lovers options. And as this post is now front page, I felt compelled to offer a counter opinion to yours of the G82. To each their own, but have never and will never understand the need to bash another car. Too each their own I guess…

[DO_e90]

Originally Posted by Joker96

Man, I'll have to think over if I want the car. It seems like they're just taking stuff away and the M2 gets the short end of the stick in the product line.

Moving up a performance / pricing teir and losing features that a cheaper car has is odd to me. Other than the engine....what features are you getting that the 240i doesn't have ?

So G87 has no cooled / ventilated seats , no 360 or front camera, less color options, etc

That’s the whole point. The goal isn’t for you be able to buy a “cheaper M3/4.” It’s so that the M2 differentiates itself as the entry level M car. Totally agree, you get more options on a $30k Honda but it’s not driving like an M lol.

[DO_e90]

Originally Posted by Skooba1231

Don’t tell him Ms don’t come with fog lights… he might lose his 💩

Damn, this is my first M as well and I didn’t realize this but oh well lol. Can’t wait for mine to get delivered

[Fugly M3]

The M4 is ugly. Ugliest of the 3, except the vert sort of works. The M2 is no looker, though. If you think it is, you should audition for the South Park smug episode. The M3 is least offensive because it's actually fairly attractive once past nose.

I just spent 2 days at Indy with BMW hopping between M2/3/4/5. I will echo the sentiment on the Cognac feeling cheap. It's not necessarily that it feels cheap, it's that it makes you notice how much cheaper the leather in the M2 is vs. the other cars. This contrast draws you to the same delta when you interact with the plastics - namely, the door cards. If you're not hopping in and out of the cars, you'd not notice. However, going from an M3/4 with full leather to the M2 is an eye opener.

BMW's done a pretty good job of adding a lot of things not available on the F87 to the G87. Personally, I'd have a car with no HUD, fewer colors and made in Germany if it meant the leather and the interior plastics were the same. I'd even pay more for it.

[DO_e90]

Originally Posted by middyM

So glad I got a ‘24! Cognac seats are 🔥

Same, I think it looks great. Glad I ordered a ‘24 because I’m not feeling the new interior colors

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Celestion

Do you know if Merino leather or carbon buckets will still be offered?

Yes, still available.

[m2not1LE]

Has your order yet been allocated and confirmed? I not, you may get a 2025 car and will have to respecify accordingly.

I originally ordered a 2024 M2 (black exterior and cognac interior). I fully agree with you that cognac interior pretty much makes this car in certain exterior colors - especially black. It is the old school classic later 1980s M5 combination, along with so many other German cars from that any other era.

Yet once the 2025 power upgrade became formal in all practical terms, I instructed my dealership to hold my order for 2025 mod year allocation. So now I lose the gorgeous interior/exterior color combo I was so looking forward to and have to reconfigure the 2025 car. For me, a black interior and exterior just isn't an option. I like colors and tasteful color contrast.

Also, "venting" on here is pretty much forbidden, even in cases where hard core mechanical engineering (I'm one) facts and mathematical proofs are presented. As is the case with pretty much everything else, it all boils down to emotional "belief" rather than actual fact and reason.

Originally Posted by twlai

I am glad my order is in for the cognac interior on 2024. I would not buy the M2 if it did not offer some kind of tan/brown interior. I would not buy the M3/4 because they are too big for me, and I don't like their front grill!

I read a few post on this threads that ask other people to leave M2 or bmw to buy others brand or other model if they don't like what M2 offer now... that make me really sad.

We are a small group of people here in this forum because we all like BMW and M2. Many of us are drawn by the M2's driving experience, and willing to make trade off , such as color, tech, style, etc....

But are we not even allow to vent a little with our fellow enthusiasts?

I feel that all of their request are reasonable. M2 is not an economy car like some suggested even it is a 2-series. 2-series is an $40k entry-luxury model line, and M2 sit at the top of that in mid $60k, asking for some of these tech or color isn't unreasonable.

If you would ask people to leave BMW when hear any negative comment or suggestion, the brand will never get better.

It is like when someone doesn't like some of America's policy, and you tell them to leave United States and go lives somewhere else!

Car nuts like us should be able to share my love for the brand and free to discuss our love and hate with it!

[TT0997]

Originally Posted by m2not1LE

Has your order yet been allocated and confirmed? I not, you may get a 2025 car and will have to respecify accordingly.

I originally ordered a 2024 M2 (black exterior and cognac interior). I fully agree with you that cognac interior pretty much makes this car in certain exterior colors - especially black. It is the old school classic later 1980s M5 combination, along with so many other German cars from that any other era.

Yet once the 2025 power upgrade became formal in all practical terms, I instructed my dealership to hold my order for 2025 mod year allocation. So now I lose the gorgeous interior/exterior color combo I was so looking forward to and have to reconfigure the 2025 car. For me, a black interior and exterior just isn't an option. I like colors and tasteful color contrast.

Agreed.

Glad I did not wait for the power bump (obviously none of us will see the difference in 90% of driving situations).

The cognac was to important for me !

But would have loved Skycrapper grey with cognac.

Anyway, black always works with cognac 😊

[sg13]

Originally Posted by m2not1LE

Also, "venting" on here is pretty much forbidden, even in cases where hard core mechanical engineering (I'm one) facts and mathematical proofs are presented. As is the case with pretty much everything else, it all boils down to emotional "belief" rather than actual fact and reason.

Wow, what a thread!

Interesting that something is "forbidden" here. Another thing forbidden should be harsh comments. The dude was just giving his opinion and I have to commend him on the fact that he kept his comments only on the car/BMW despite all the shots at him.

Emotions? That's why these forums exist otherwise a 4 wheeler is only a 4 wheeler.

Anyway, looking to order in Irish or Urban green if Ind opens full force but I am sure the availiable colors would be limited.

Sad to see Cognac gone and don't understand the logic behind it at all!

[beer]

Originally Posted by Tag

Update:

I'm seeing paint code '490' which is 'Special Order Color' indicating individual colors will be available. I cannot however see what colors will be on offer or how much it will cost but for comparison on the G80/2 it's a $4,500 option.

Can’t help but to think this will raise demand for the G87.

[TheStoka]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

Finally they added a proper blue

Zandvoort sucks

Originally Posted by David Kunitz

Portimao blue

Both are good colours but can’t help but feel there like just slightly worse versions of the colours we got on the previous M's
Yas Marina blue looks more special than Zandvoort and feel the same San Marino blue compared to Portimao. Miss the days of plenty of M specific colours.

For me Cognac is far to much like my grandfather sitting room, but are sad seeing proper options fall away. Miss the light grey leather that used to be common across the ranges.

[miiipilot]

No purple

I am extremely sad. Was willing to sell my BG for a purple

[JustChris]

Paint Code 490

[antzcrashing]

Originally Posted by Zuzu

Agree.. Love the colour on my wifes X1 M35i..

Nicely optioned.

[ruffrider683]

Originally Posted by Tag

Update:

I'm seeing paint code '490' which is 'Special Order Color' indicating individual colors will be available. I cannot however see what colors will be on offer or how much it will cost but for comparison on the G80/2 it's a $4,500 option.

Are you able to see if this option is also showing up for the MY25 3 series seeing as they are both produced in the same factory?

[Joker96]

Do we know if 2025 gets new wheel

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by Joker96

Do we know if 2025 gets new wheel

That’s your deal breaker now, a new wheel?
Hilarious.

[Joker96]

Originally Posted by Carefree

That’s your deal breaker now, a new wheel?
Hilarious.

That discussion was hours ago, I'm not sure why you guys are still dragging that out 24 hours later.

I'm asking about a steering wheel, thats all.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

I know its subjective but the cognac looks utterly fake and cheesy. Its not a natural look or baseball glove in any way.

Nobody is running for an M4. Its a butt ugly turd. Yes, it has a few options that we all want but the M3 is a far better looking car with the same available options, even with the extra two doors.

Have to agree. And nobody is going to pay $16-20k more for the M4 simply for brown seats.

M2 buyers likely fall into 2 primary camps:

1. The M2, nicely-equipped, is at the top of their budget.
2. The M3/4 is within their budget, but they realize they can get the same performance while sacrificing just a few features for significantly less $.

Maybe those complaining about no brown seats are in camp 1?

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

Have to agree. And nobody is going to pay $16-20k more for the M4 simply for brown seats.

M2 buyers likely fall into 2 primary camps:

1. The M2, nicely-equipped, is at the top of their budget.
2. The M3/4 is within their budget, but they realize they can get the same performance while sacrificing just a few features for significantly less $.

Maybe those complaining about no brown seats are in camp 1?

I’m in neither camp.
Price to me is irrelevant. I simply love the car.
YMMV

[2011ninja]

Originally Posted by Joker96

Are any of the colors going to be free or are they still going to offer the same 2 free colors ? black not being free is crazy.

What?!

That’s absolutely ridiculous….

Not trying to be sarcastic at all.

How can you charge for black. (rhetorical )

It’s akin to charging for clear coating the car.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Joker96

That discussion was hours ago, I'm not sure why you guys are still dragging that out 24 hours later.

I'm asking about a steering wheel, thats all.

Its just a flat bottomed steering wheel. Would I prefer it, yes (if it had been available). Would it matter if I was buying the car and it wasn't available, not in the least bit (depending on your mindset and budget, an aftermarket or the soon to be released OEM can be had for just under $1k and up).