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      03-24-2020, 01:25 PM   #23
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Interesting. I wonder what 4 more runs would have looked like.
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The TH is impressive, but wouldn't a matchup with an X5/6 be more appropriate? That supercharged V8 is cool but the X4's interior is a better place to be.
I've been saying this forever. There are so few trackhawk vs older generation f85/6 even. I'm assuming it has to do to availability for reviewers that they just take what they get.
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Shows it's not doing that much with the other 190hp if you ask me, a 600hp M4 would have walked the trackhawk a 700hp one would have embarrassed it.
Factor in weight, it's not all about HP

Don't care about M4, a 800 hp Corvette would have annihilated all, it sure what that has to do with anything. Different engine, different drivetrain, different set up.
Give me the X4M in anything other than a straight line, and the corvette will clearly show it's limitations.
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surprised how fast that Jeep was. I have driven the X3m/comp and it was insane fast, impressed that jeeps output. respect
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      03-24-2020, 08:23 PM   #27
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Give me the X4M in anything other than a straight line, and the corvette will clearly show it's limitations.
LMAO at this, youre quite misinformed! You clearly dont know how many track records the corvette has set. Here's just one.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ir-lap-record/
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LMAO at this, youre quite misinformed! You clearly dont know how many track records the corvette has set. Here's just one.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ir-lap-record/
The new Corvette is a great effing car. I just donít understand why they couldnít add AWD.... Without AWD it will always remain a poor manís 911.
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Shows how fool proof the Jeep is, same exact time with two different drivers... two very different times with two different drivers on the X4M.
Shows it's not doing that much with the other 190hp if you ask me, a 600hp X4M would have walked the trackhawk a 700hp one would have embarrassed it.
And on a track BMW wins by a wider margin
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The new Corvette is a great effing car. I just donít understand why they couldnít add AWD.... Without AWD it will always remain a poor manís 911.
Weight and price point. The base C8 is only 60k (Optioned 80k). 0-60 in the base car is 2.95, which is impressive. It would be nice to see the AWD option on the ZO6/ZR1. I will most likley pick up the Zo6 when they come out, its going to be a monster.
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And on a track BMW wins by a wider margin
You are 100% correct on this. I had a 17 Grand Cherokee SRT, and the cornering wasn't in the same universe as the X4M/X3M. This cars handling is beyond impressive, even compared to the AMG GLC 63.
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Weight and price point. The base C8 is only 60k (Optioned 80k). 0-60 in the base car is 2.95, which is impressive. It would be nice to see the AWD option on the ZO6/ZR1. I will most likley pick up the Zo6 when they come out, its going to be a monster.
It would go so much faster with AWD. At least offer it as an option. I would gladly pay 10k extra to have an AWD. Hopefully, Z06 will indeed have a front electric motor.
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Give me the X4M in anything other than a straight line, and the corvette will clearly show it's limitations.
LMAO at this, youre quite misinformed! You clearly dont know how many track records the corvette has set. Here's just one.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ir-lap-record/


Hilarious.

I'm not talking about being on a racetrack.

I'm talking about in real life on a moist road or in the twisties.
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Give me the X4M in anything other than a straight line, and the corvette will clearly show it's limitations.
LMAO at this, youre quite misinformed! You clearly dont know how many track records the corvette has set. Here's just one.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ir-lap-record/


Hilarious.

I'm not talking about being on a racetrack.

I'm talking about in real life on a moist road or in the twisties.
Vett is a car X3M/4M are SAV's both clearly different vehicles. Around a track and the twisties the vett would win. Apples vs oranges. Vett vs M8C would be interesting
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Hilarious.

No AWD for Corvette.

I'm not talking about being on a racetrack.

I'm talking about in real life on a moist road or in the twisties.
Well, I didn't account for "Moist conditions". In the twisites, I assume your talking about wet roads again? The ZO6/ZR1 pulls well over a G and would annihilate an X3M/X4M (Or any other M I know of) on the street in dry conditions. Of course the Vette loses stop light to stop light, it wouldnt be close. I've done many 800-1100 HP builds in Vettes/Vipers, even with MT ET Streets or R888Rs, the Vettes not going to beat an AWD WRX stop light to stop light. American cars have come a long way, the C8 is proof of that. They also do it far cheaper than the Germans.

I'm a car lover, and appreciate cars from all over (Porsche, BMW, AMG, GTR). For the price and Performance, American cars are hard to beat. As I've gotten older, I am starting to appreciate the refinement of German cars (AMG, M cars). I sold my 1k hp Hellcat recently, and do miss the raw, visceral instanity that is a suprcharged American V8. But I will say this little M motor is phenomenal, as is the handling for an SAV. But it's not aa sports car, comparing it to Corvette is a little silly. All that said, Im very happy with my X4M Comp, and can't wait until the wheels/Tires/Lowering and tuning is done. BMW did an excellent job on this car, I just hit 1k miles and this motor impresses me more every time i drive it. (Rant over, im a little bored)
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Good god. Why the hell does a corvette ever enter into the conversation. Get a clue.
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STFU about corvettes. This is an SUV forum and thread.

Impressive the M can keep up with or beat a Trackhawk in a straight line.
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Good god. Why the hell does a corvette ever enter into the conversation. Get a clue.
Exactly.

The Corvette forums must be absolutely dead.
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Hilarious.

No AWD for Corvette.

I'm not talking about being on a racetrack.

I'm talking about in real life on a moist road or in the twisties.
Well, I didn't account for "Moist conditions". In the twisites, I assume your talking about wet roads again? The ZO6/ZR1 pulls well over a G and would annihilate an X3M/X4M (Or any other M I know of) on the street in dry conditions. Of course the Vette loses stop light to stop light, it wouldnt be close. I've done many 800-1100 HP builds in Vettes/Vipers, even with MT ET Streets or R888Rs, the Vettes not going to beat an AWD WRX stop light to stop light. American cars have come a long way, the C8 is proof of that. They also do it far cheaper than the Germans.

I'm a car lover, and appreciate cars from all over (Porsche, BMW, AMG, GTR). For the price and Performance, American cars are hard to beat. As I've gotten older, I am starting to appreciate the refinement of German cars (AMG, M cars). I sold my 1k hp Hellcat recently, and do miss the raw, visceral instanity that is a suprcharged American V8. But I will say this little M motor is phenomenal, as is the handling for an SAV. But it's not aa sports car, comparing it to Corvette is a little silly. All that said, Im very happy with my X4M Comp, and can't wait until the wheels/Tires/Lowering and tuning is done. BMW did an excellent job on this car, I just hit 1k miles and this motor impresses me more every time i drive it. (Rant over, im a little bored)
The Shelby GT 350and 500 deserve a nod too
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The Corvette forums must be absolutely dead.
I wish. 90% of the conversations over there are absolutely moronic.
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The Corvette forums must be absolutely dead.
I wish. 90% of the conversations over there are absolutely moronic.
I'll absolutely take your word on that.

Not surprised actually.

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If I'm spending 80-90k it will not be on a Jeep
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So a driver's race, they are equally quick.

Nice video.
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