2020 BMW X3M (F97) X4M (F87) Official Thread: Information, Specs, Wallpapers, Videos

Dog Face Pony Soldier · 02-12-2019, 08:43 PM

Love it. Beautiful in that silver/gray exterior too. The only thing I don't like is the tan-black two tone interior. Hopefully all-black M Sport Seats are available.

I feel my X3M build would have to be a touch less expensive than my Macan GTS build. Otherwise I'd be drawn to the Porsche. Of course a test drive might just violate my expectations!

Great job here BMW. 💪🏻

BobsM3Coupe · 02-12-2019, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kozzi

No way lol. 503 HP CP means it's actually at @525+ HP if the scale from the M40i holds. This is 0-60 MPH in 3.5s territory, where it should be relative to the competition in this segment.

I figured with at least the 100 hp extra, it would be a second faster 0-60 than the M40i.

BobsM3Coupe · 02-12-2019, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tonymac1

How does it have smaller tires than the m40i? I believe m40i has 275 in the rear ?

I was thinking the same thing. Something doesn't sound right. Also seems like the brake calipers look like the same ones that are on the M40i.

BobsM3Coupe · 02-12-2019, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kozzi

Interesting clip from that article.

"To handle the extra power and improve the driving experience, engineers worked to stiffen the chassis. But if you place your order after August of this year, you'll have the option of trading your regular front strut brace for a carbon fiber-reinforced plastic one."

I'm sure there will be quite an upcharge to trade in the stock strut brace for the CF brace.

dezzracer · 02-12-2019, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zirenz2006

sign me up, love them both but will probably go for the X4M

Impressive specs from Bavarian Motor Works. One thing that stood out to me on motor build is a forged crank but no mention of forged rods. Rods (and bolts holding heads without stretching to prevent head gasket leaks ) can be a weak spot when increasing HP with custom tunes. Assuming they know what they are doing though. I personally do not tune at those HP levels but many will. Anyway , thank you BMW for building cars like. Wow!!!

Mako · 02-12-2019, 08:51 PM

super disappointing with the weight, 4600 lbs???

thats insane

Jaguar is under 4400 with a V8

dezzracer · 02-12-2019, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako

super disappointing with the weight, 4600 lbs???

thats insane

Jaguar is under 4400 with a V8

Blame X-Drive.

Hchhuor · 02-12-2019, 08:55 PM

Mako · 02-12-2019, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dezzracer

Blame X-Drive.

but all SUVs have AWD in that segment

No Laser Light option?

stein_325i · 02-12-2019, 08:58 PM

8 minutes in for exhaust, *spoiler alert* don't get your hopes up. Possibly there was a mode/setting turned off since there was no burbles or cracking, and they didn't rev it that high, but it seems like BMW still needs to work on their bi-turbo exhausts.

Max Well · 02-12-2019, 08:58 PM

As R&D began years ago it must've been difficult to see the segment becoming this competitive back then. But replacing the heavy moon roof with CF would've allowed significant weight savings off the 4620 lbs. along with clear handling benefits... Current Wt/HP will be 9.18, well behind SVR at 7.99, Stelvio Quad at 8.51, Levante Trofeo 8.11 but that's a different echelon. Cd x A is 0.969 which isn't bad in this segment. Still places high in the overall grouping with cargo load included.

Looking forward to ordering a Comp, but definitely would've appreciated a lighter topside.

EvenKeel · 02-12-2019, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dezzracer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zirenz2006

sign me up, love them both but will probably go for the X4M

Impressive specs from Bavarian Motor Works. One thing that stood out to me on motor build is a forged crank but no mention of forged rods. Rods (and bolts holding heads without stretching to prevent head gasket leaks ) can be a weak spot when increasing HP with custom tunes. Assuming they know what they are doing though. I personally do not tune at those HP levels but many will. Anyway , thank you BMW for building cars like. Wow!!!

The S58 video says the conrods are forged as well.

ghost.M · 02-12-2019, 09:01 PM

Damn that X3M is sexy!

BobsM3Coupe · 02-12-2019, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dezzracer

Impressive specs from Bavarian Motor Works. One thing that stood out to me on motor build is a forged crank but no mention of forged rods. Rods (and bolts holding heads without stretching to prevent head gasket leaks ) can be a weak spot when increasing HP with custom tunes. Assuming they know what they are doing though. I personally do not tune at those HP levels but many will. Anyway , thank you BMW for building cars like. Wow!!!

Crank and rods are already forged on the B58. I would imagine the same will be true on the S58.

MarkDemma · 02-12-2019, 09:02 PM

Looking forward to seeing the S58 in an upcoming M2 ... hopefully - and also with a manual option!

ando · 02-12-2019, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by joshuastein55

Regular "Sport Seats" vs "M Sport Seats" for anyone wondering

Definitely worth the extra $$$ to get the M seats.

Do you have any other standard X3 M pictures?

stein_325i · 02-12-2019, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ando

Do you have any other standard X3 M pictures?

From BMWBlog

dezzracer · 02-12-2019, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezzracer

Blame X-Drive.

but all SUVs have AWD in that segment

No Laser Light option?

Oh ok. Did not know that. Thanks.

dezzracer · 02-12-2019, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezzracer

Impressive specs from Bavarian Motor Works. One thing that stood out to me on motor build is a forged crank but no mention of forged rods. Rods (and bolts holding heads without stretching to prevent head gasket leaks ) can be a weak spot when increasing HP with custom tunes. Assuming they know what they are doing though. I personally do not tune at those HP levels but many will. Anyway , thank you BMW for building cars like. Wow!!!

Crank and rods are already forged on the B58. I would imagine the same will be true on the S58.

Got it. Thanks for clarifying. 👍🏻

elitex · 02-12-2019, 09:17 PM

Can't wait to hear what the new S58 sounds like.

Mako · 02-12-2019, 09:17 PM

Seat colors, it says sakhir orange/black or gray

does that mean the ones in pictures and an option for black instead of gray? a bit confused by that, the gray doesn't look that good and really would only go with certain exterior colors. I wonder if Sakhir orange and the toronto red will clash?

elitex · 02-12-2019, 09:18 PM

Can't wait to hear what the new S58 sounds like.

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