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      07-27-2020, 03:40 PM   #23
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Is your vehicle on stock suspension or lowered?
Stock suspension. I don't lower SUVs, I need the ground clearance.

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That's awesome! Did you change tires/what tires are on it?
Michelin PS4S except I upsized to 265 front and 295 rear. No spacers.

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Cool😎. Is that Mt Shasta area?
Just north of Mt. Rainier in WA.

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You have the setup I've been contemplating. I have an M4 comp, but my two little girls and a love of mountain biking are pushing me in the direction of an X3/5 M. The hitch in my plan was the lack of a factory hitch. I generally lease and didn't want to modify the car in a way to violate the lease. Sounds like I could do your hitch. I generally haul my bike on my old FJ cruiser, but it sucks on trips longer than an hour.

Thanks for posting and enjoy those great bikes. What trail were you riding? Looks like Washington. Don't blame you for not pedaling up, even if it was a fire road. 😜
I'm on a lease and I suppose I'll have to remove the hitch if I don't keep the car. Honestly though it's such an awesome rig that there is a decent chance I would buy it out at lease end. I've had a couple M3s and always sell them because of their lack of functionality in my life. The X3M gives me an M car that is very similar to M3 but with the utility and AWD I need. It's a niche vehicle that has some turbo lag and is stiff, but for me and everyone I've had in it, it's not uncomfortable. Once you figure out the power band and gearing, the turbo lag is less of an issue and it has great throttle response with option to make it hair trigger in sport+. I think it's a fantastic compromise vehicle just as long as you're not expecting a track car.

The trail was Ranger Creek and Deep Creek in WA. Normally I do pedal up but these are not really climbing trails and with a shuttle option to get two runs in, that sealed that plan.
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Is your vehicle on stock suspension or lowered?
Stock suspension. I don't lower SUVs, I need the ground clearance.

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That's awesome! Did you change tires/what tires are on it?
Michelin PS4S except I upsized to 265 front and 295 rear. No spacers.

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Cool😎. Is that Mt Shasta area?
Just north of Mt. Rainier in WA.

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You have the setup I've been contemplating. I have an M4 comp, but my two little girls and a love of mountain biking are pushing me in the direction of an X3/5 M. The hitch in my plan was the lack of a factory hitch. I generally lease and didn't want to modify the car in a way to violate the lease. Sounds like I could do your hitch. I generally haul my bike on my old FJ cruiser, but it sucks on trips longer than an hour.

Thanks for posting and enjoy those great bikes. What trail were you riding? Looks like Washington. Don't blame you for not pedaling up, even if it was a fire road. 😜
I'm on a lease and I suppose I'll have to remove the hitch if I don't keep the car. Honestly though it's such an awesome rig that there is a decent chance I would buy it out at lease end. I've had a couple M3s and always sell them because of their lack of functionality in my life. The X3M gives me an M car that is very similar to M3 but with the utility and AWD I need. It's a niche vehicle that has some turbo lag and is stiff, but for me and everyone I've had in it, it's not uncomfortable. Once you figure out the power band and gearing, the turbo lag is less of an issue and it has great throttle response with option to make it hair trigger in sport+. I think it's a fantastic compromise vehicle just as long as you're not expecting a track car.

The trail was Ranger Creek and Deep Creek in WA. Normally I do pedal up but these are not really climbing trails and with a shuttle option to get two runs in, that sealed that plan.
I absolutely love this area when the weather cooperates. Some of the best scenery I've seen anywhere.
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      07-27-2020, 04:17 PM   #25
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I absolutely love this area when the weather cooperates. Some of the best scenery I've seen anywhere.
I've been there and the view is just crazy. Almost died from the bazillion mosquitos that just hatched when I was there though.
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Stock suspension. I don't lower SUVs, I need the ground clearance... I'm on a lease and I suppose I'll have to remove the hitch if I don't keep the car. Honestly though it's such an awesome rig that there is a decent chance I would buy it out at lease end. I've had a couple M3s and always sell them because of their lack of functionality in my life. The X3M gives me an M car that is very similar to M3 but with the utility and AWD I need. It's a niche vehicle that has some turbo lag and is stiff, but for me and everyone I've had in it, it's not uncomfortable. Once you figure out the power band and gearing, the turbo lag is less of an issue and it has great throttle response with option to make it hair trigger in sport+. I think it's a fantastic compromise vehicle just as long as you're not expecting a track car...
Thanks for sharing, Transfer . Given the performance and handling characteristics of the F97, esp if in Comp form (or tuned) and without the moonroof and spare, I wouldn't agree it's a 'compromise vehicle' though, and I respectfully suggest you're selling it short by stating such. I understand your intent by writing that, and those who have dedicated small coupe and sedan track cars will agree with you, but if an experienced Driver has a track nearby, and has the extra funds for tires, brakes, and fluids, I have no doubt he/she won't be an embarrassment to the F97 ranks and will have a lot of fun with this vehicle. Ask j080808 how it handles around a track [vimeo.com/425355344].
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I bought my X3MC to be fast, fun, and a true sport activity vehicle. This includes using it on unpaved roads to get into the mountains with some frequency. Today I took it off the tarmac for the first time and up a 3200 foot ascent on a 10 mile potholed, washboarded, dusty forest service road to go mountain biking.

I was not expecting much and thought I would really not enjoy this car on these types of roads. Nonsense! It was fantastic! I kept it in comfort suspension, sport throttle, and manual shifting and it was a hoot without beating me up. Also no issues with ground clearance but there was nothing crazy on this road. I had two friends in the car and they were both surprised by the capability and the relative comfort even if it was a bit bouncy through some of the largest slow speed potholes.

So who else has gone "off-road" with their Ms? What were your experiences?
Same here. Shockingly good and pleasant on a dirt track. Going in, thought I'd come out of that trip with a slip disc, but no. It was awesome. Wife, baby and dog did not say a word.
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So who else has gone "off-road" with their Ms?
Some say he’s still off-road

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So who else has gone "off-road" with their Ms?
Some say he’s still off-road

I assure you my tires were to spec.
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I bought my X3MC to be fast, fun, and a true sport activity vehicle. This includes using it on unpaved roads to get into the mountains with some frequency. Today I took it off the tarmac for the first time and up a 3200 foot ascent on a 10 mile potholed, washboarded, dusty forest service road to go mountain biking.

I was not expecting much and thought I would really not enjoy this car on these types of roads. Nonsense! It was fantastic! I kept it in comfort suspension, sport throttle, and manual shifting and it was a hoot without beating me up. Also no issues with ground clearance but there was nothing crazy on this road. I had two friends in the car and they were both surprised by the capability and the relative comfort even if it was a bit bouncy through some of the largest slow speed potholes.

So who else has gone "off-road" with their Ms? What were your experiences?
Yeah... you know I find when it gets bumpy, I just go faster... somehow it tightens up �� if she don't break, whatever.

Bikes bikes bikes, I see you like your 29s!! I just picked up a wicked cool trek eMTB. What kinda hitch carrier do you have there? Thule? How's it working out for you?
I have the same setup (stealth hitch) with the new Thule T2 Pro bike rack. I had the original T2 like OP but got out of biking for a while and sold all my stuff. The new T2 has a tensioner on the hitch as it's theft deterrent feature but also eliminates the rattle I had with the original version. I looked at Kuat and 1up and went back to what I knew worked. With that said, I know someone with a 1up and swears by it so can't go wrong either way.
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Thanks for sharing, Transfer . Given the performance and handling characteristics of the F97, esp if in Comp form (or tuned) and without the moonroof and spare, I wouldn't agree it's a 'compromise vehicle' though, and I respectfully suggest you're selling it short by stating such. I understand your intent by writing that, and those who have dedicated small coupe and sedan track cars will agree with you, but if an experienced Driver has a track nearby, and has the extra funds for tires, brakes, and fluids, I have no doubt he/she won't be an embarrassment to the F97 ranks and will have a lot of fun with this vehicle. Ask j080808 how it handles around a track [vimeo.com/425355344].
Sorry I guess I didn't mean to say you *couldn't* take it to the track but my bias is why *would* you want to take it to the track. I agree, it is capable of track days and would be a surprising foe to some.
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Sorry I guess I didn't mean to say you *couldn't* take it to the track but my bias is why *would* you want to take it to the track. I agree, it is capable of track days and would be a surprising foe to some.
I took it a couple of times to the track just because I can. It’s really not bad, but it is definitely not a “track car” and it doesn’t need to be.
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You don't need an X3M, any M car will do fine! First weekend I had mine I did about 50km on gravel.

At about 100mph the whole car go rather floaty though and felt like it wasn't touching the road.
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I've been seriously considering selling my M for a new truck or SUV for this exact reason. Showing up at the base of a forestry/service road in the M3 gets a lot of laughs lol

I see you like your Transitions; I like my Pivots.
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I've been seriously considering selling my M for a new truck or SUV for this exact reason. Showing up at the base of a forestry/service road in the M3 gets a lot of laughs lol

I see you like your Transitions; I like my Pivots.
Love the pics. What track are you using and how do you like it? I've been afraid to try the suction cup approach on my Austin Yellow M4.
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I've got two bikes and which one I'm on depends on the ride: the big rig which I rode yesterday is a Transition Sentinel, and the lightweight bike is a Transition Spur.
Nice setups, had the Push rear shock on my Nomad a while ago.

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I recently went camping just east of Sonora peak in California at 9,600' in my F80. It was exciting to say the least and everyone was amazed when we showed up. Everyone else had lifted 4x4s. I collected a bunch of small rocks in the diff cooling fins and the front passenger plastic jack point got mangled but otherwise that was the only trail damage sustained. I wouldn't recommend anyone take their M3 on that trail but it's cool to know you could.
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I recently went camping just east of Sonora peak in California at 9,600' in my F80. It was exciting to say the least and everyone was amazed when we showed up. Everyone else had lifted 4x4s. I collected a bunch of small rocks in the diff cooling fins and the front passenger plastic jack point got mangled but otherwise that was the only trail damage sustained. I wouldn't recommend anyone take their M3 on that trail but it's cool to know you could.
Some of those "Forest Service Roads" would be a bit of a challenge, especially after the spring rains and snow melts. Wait until they're "graded" . Oh, and stay away from the "Rubicon Trail". Just suggesting ...
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I recently went camping just east of Sonora peak in California at 9,600' in my F80. It was exciting to say the least and everyone was amazed when we showed up. Everyone else had lifted 4x4s. I collected a bunch of small rocks in the diff cooling fins and the front passenger plastic jack point got mangled but otherwise that was the only trail damage sustained. I wouldn't recommend anyone take their M3 on that trail but it's cool to know you could.
Some of those "Forest Service Roads" would be a bit of a challenge, especially after the spring rains and snow melts. Wait until they're "graded" . Oh, and stay away from the "Rubicon Trail". Just suggesting ...
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I recently went camping just east of Sonora peak in California at 9,600' in my F80. It was exciting to say the least and everyone was amazed when we showed up. Everyone else had lifted 4x4s. I collected a bunch of small rocks in the diff cooling fins and the front passenger plastic jack point got mangled but otherwise that was the only trail damage sustained. I wouldn't recommend anyone take their M3 on that trail but it's cool to know you could.
Rent an SUV next time

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Attaboy! What kind of bike u got? I'm on a Trek top of the line something, but from 10 years ago!
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I've been seriously considering selling my M for a new truck or SUV for this exact reason. Showing up at the base of a forestry/service road in the M3 gets a lot of laughs lol

I see you like your Transitions; I like my Pivots.
Love the pics. What track are you using and how do you like it? I've been afraid to try the suction cup approach on my Austin Yellow M4.
I did the roof rack DIY and use the bmw rack. It's been speed tested to 240+km/hr with my Bike on it so I know it's solid haha

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Only thing that would give me pause on anything other than dirt/gravel roads with some minor potholes would be the oil cooler. Not great placement to avoid a puncture..
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Great views Transfer...

My X1 spends a fair amount of time down around Rainier and up at Baker. When I bought it at Seattle BMW, I said I had to make sure I could fit to sleep in the back at trailheads. They were surprised...I figure its #onelesssubaru
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