[psuibmw]

Originally Posted by FrankieNuo

Figured I contribute.... here's one at the shop and another one with attempted theft 😤

That red color is a magnet

[hamy]

It's a shame to see nearly 1,000hp of M power locked away in the garage during this COVID crisis. But I consider myself very luck compared to most. Looking forward to cars and coffee to open back up amongst other things.

[usu335i]

This just arrived yesterday. I'm very impressed so far. Just sold my e92 M3 6mt and this car feels twice as fast.

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by usu335i

This just arrived yesterday. I'm very impressed so far. Just sold my e92 M3 6mt and this car feels twice as fast.

I sold my E92 M3 in January and just picked up X3MC this month too. No regrets!

[doomsday runner]

Originally Posted by hamy

It's a shame to see nearly 1,000hp of M power locked away in the garage during this COVID crisis. But I consider myself very luck compared to most. Looking forward to cars and coffee to open back up amongst other things.

I replaced my M4CP with a X4M, but was looking at a M4CS. How does the CS and X3M compare against each other?

[hamy]

Originally Posted by doomsday runner

I replaced my M4CP with a X4M, but was looking at a M4CS. How does the CS and X3M compare against each other?

Good question. There isn’t a short answer, and since driving feel and esthetics are so subjective I’ll give you a brief history on my perspective.

I’ve been a long time BMW owner with recent M car stints in the M2, then M3 Comp (6MT), then X3MC and finally adding a M4CS. I have young kids (2&5) so the move from M2 -> M3 was to get some additional practicality. Then last year I drove the X3MC at Monticello race track during a track day and it was over. As many others that have come from the F80 platform will attest the power delivery and usable/practical nature of the X3M is on another level so I sold the M3 in favor of my X3MC.

I enjoy a few track sessions annually and I’m probably one of the few people at actually has driven a X3MC on a track. This is my downfall, for daily driving and fun spirited drives the SAV is perfect. It is, and feels SOOO MUCH quicker than the F8X. Launch control is comical…the whole family gets a kick out of it every time. I can bomb around in it with car seats, strollers, etc. Very few things on the street are any quicker. BUT…it’s missing what I enjoy most about the M4CS…rawness.

The M4CS will lose in a straight line every single time. From a roll…every single time. My wife and I have tested this extensively and even with the X3MC on all-seasons it’s just not even a competition. Power delivery and AWD just make the X3MC a beast that we all enjoy. But because I track my cars the flaws (it’s an SAV what do you expect) do show when you explore the limits. The CS is just so much more engaging to drive. Downshifts in the DCT are unreal. The stripped out interior is fun and feels special. Turn in is way more predictable and sharp. For me, a little bit of tail out fun is more engaging than super fast in a straight line.

Beyond that the CS really is something special to look at. The hood, fender flairs, carbon lip, and color combine for a really esthetically pleasing car by my tastes. Even with some HRE wheels the X3MC still blends in with the rest of the soccer mom rides in my area. Not as bad as my wife’s XC90, but it’s really a common car compared to the CS. Of course starting up the X3MC in Sport+ quickly reminds people it’s anything but common.

All this said, if I had to pick one car to drive it would be the X3MC by a mile. I’d give up the luxury of having a more engaging track focused car for the practicality of the SAV all day long. I’m grateful for the chance to enjoy both and if the G80 grille nightmare continues to production this combo seems like a winner for the short term.

[Bimmers4life]

Originally Posted by hamy

Good question. There isn’t a short answer, and since driving feel and esthetics are so subjective I’ll give you a brief history on my perspective.

I’ve been a long time BMW owner with recent M car stints in the M2, then M3 Comp (6MT), then X3MC and finally adding a M4CS. I have young kids (2&5) so the move from M2 -> M3 was to get some additional practicality. Then last year I drove the X3MC at Monticello race track during a track day and it was over. As many others that have come from the F80 platform will attest the power delivery and usable/practical nature of the X3M is on another level so I sold the M3 in favor of my X3MC.

I enjoy a few track sessions annually and I’m probably one of the few people at actually has driven a X3MC on a track. This is my downfall, for daily driving and fun spirited drives the SAV is perfect. It is, and feels SOOO MUCH quicker than the F8X. Launch control is comical…the whole family gets a kick out of it every time. I can bomb around in it with car seats, strollers, etc. Very few things on the street are any quicker. BUT…it’s missing what I enjoy most about the M4CS…rawness.

The M4CS will lose in a straight line every single time. From a roll…every single time. My wife and I have tested this extensively and even with the X3MC on all-seasons it’s just not even a competition. Power delivery and AWD just make the X3MC a beast that we all enjoy. But because I track my cars the flaws (it’s an SAV what do you expect) do show when you explore the limits. The CS is just so much more engaging to drive. Downshifts in the DCT are unreal. The stripped out interior is fun and feels special. Turn in is way more predictable and sharp. For me, a little bit of tail out fun is more engaging than super fast in a straight line.

Beyond that the CS really is something special to look at. The hood, fender flairs, carbon lip, and color combine for a really esthetically pleasing car by my tastes. Even with some HRE wheels the X3MC still blends in with the rest of the soccer mom rides in my area. Not as bad as my wife’s XC90, but it’s really a common car compared to the CS. Of course starting up the X3MC in Sport+ quickly reminds people it’s anything but common.

All this said, if I had to pick one car to drive it would be the X3MC by a mile. I’d give up the luxury of having a more engaging track focused car for the practicality of the SAV all day long. I’m grateful for the chance to enjoy both and if the G80 grille nightmare continues to production this combo seems like a winner for the short term.

I agree with you 100%. We have the X3MC and an F80 (2018 M3 Comp). I love going back and forth between the two cars and although they both do so many things very well they’re still so different. As you said if someone was to make me pick just one to have and drive it would be the X3MC all day every day. I would gladly give up on the things the F80 can do that the X3MC cannot do as well. Cheers

[doomsday runner]

Originally Posted by hamy

Good question. There isn’t a short answer, and since driving feel and esthetics are so subjective I’ll give you a brief history on my perspective.

I’ve been a long time BMW owner with recent M car stints in the M2, then M3 Comp (6MT), then X3MC and finally adding a M4CS. I have young kids (2&5) so the move from M2 -> M3 was to get some additional practicality. Then last year I drove the X3MC at Monticello race track during a track day and it was over. As many others that have come from the F80 platform will attest the power delivery and usable/practical nature of the X3M is on another level so I sold the M3 in favor of my X3MC.

I enjoy a few track sessions annually and I’m probably one of the few people at actually has driven a X3MC on a track. This is my downfall, for daily driving and fun spirited drives the SAV is perfect. It is, and feels SOOO MUCH quicker than the F8X. Launch control is comical…the whole family gets a kick out of it every time. I can bomb around in it with car seats, strollers, etc. Very few things on the street are any quicker. BUT…it’s missing what I enjoy most about the M4CS…rawness.

The M4CS will lose in a straight line every single time. From a roll…every single time. My wife and I have tested this extensively and even with the X3MC on all-seasons it’s just not even a competition. Power delivery and AWD just make the X3MC a beast that we all enjoy. But because I track my cars the flaws (it’s an SAV what do you expect) do show when you explore the limits. The CS is just so much more engaging to drive. Downshifts in the DCT are unreal. The stripped out interior is fun and feels special. Turn in is way more predictable and sharp. For me, a little bit of tail out fun is more engaging than super fast in a straight line.

Beyond that the CS really is something special to look at. The hood, fender flairs, carbon lip, and color combine for a really esthetically pleasing car by my tastes. Even with some HRE wheels the X3MC still blends in with the rest of the soccer mom rides in my area. Not as bad as my wife’s XC90, but it’s really a common car compared to the CS. Of course starting up the X3MC in Sport+ quickly reminds people it’s anything but common.

All this said, if I had to pick one car to drive it would be the X3MC by a mile. I’d give up the luxury of having a more engaging track focused car for the practicality of the SAV all day long. I’m grateful for the chance to enjoy both and if the G80 grille nightmare continues to production this combo seems like a winner for the short term.

Thank you, great review on both vehicles. Im loving my X4M, don't really miss my M4. The M4CS I always saw as something special above the M4CP too.

[BeyondVision]

Morning drive and decided to take my camera with me for some proper ones... enjoy

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by BeyondVision

Morning drive and decided to take my camera with me for some proper ones... enjoy

So good! So clean!

[BeyondVision]

Originally Posted by Transfer

So good! So clean!

Thanks brotha!

[-JLT-]

went out to pick up some food ... took a pic

[r33_RGSport]

Insurance asking for some pictures for renewal.

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Insurance asking for some pictures for renewal.

Pictures for insurance? What for? I've never had to do that. Do you have it insured over blue book for the mods?

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by Transfer

Pictures for insurance? What for? I've never had to do that. Do you have it insured over blue book for the mods?

No, I am revising my insurance policy and they are asking for pictures to make sure that the car is still in a good shape.

[GGEVOX]

Must be a Cali thing?

Either way I wish I was sending pictures like that to my insurance. Super jelly.

[Transfer]

Car wash day. Again.

[Transfer]

Fill up

[spta97]

Originally Posted by Transfer

Fill up

I remember when we used to have pumps with the hands free lock on...

Best I've seen is some people use tennis balls.

[TX3M]

Originally Posted by jmh

It's a different type of red for sure. I direct sunlight it does look orange but most of the time it looks like a nice sports car red with some pop thanks to the silver metallic in the paint. BMW would be wise to add this color to the next gen M3/4 and M2 as those cars are begging for a good red.

I'm curious, how is Toronto red regarding showing minor scratches and abrasions? Is it as bad as black?

[jmh]

Originally Posted by TX3M

I'm curious, how is Toronto red regarding showing minor scratches and abrasions? Is it as bad as black?

So far I have not noticed anything which would make Toronto Red more
susceptible to scratches etc . Certainly not as bad as black or dar blue etc
I am probably not a good person to judge as I keep my car pretty clean
and never really accumulate much dirt on it

- Jan

[Next Level Auto Brokers]

customer took some great shots of his x4mc delivered yesterday.
Taken today before the snow in NJ in May??