[Mavrun]

Got an update that I am officially F@CKED as the dealer has gone ahead and finished everything. When I spoke with him yesterday he said they're just working on the one tire today and trying to identify a rotational noise i've been hearing, fix that and then proceed with service.

This morning update - the service is complete and vehicle is due for a road test.

Lesson learnt - Ask a question here first.
Shop around.
I am officially going to buy myself a 🔫 and shoot me in the head to see whats wrong with me.

My work pays me miles so that helps a little but I'll 100 percent get a head scan.

[GDEvans]

Originally Posted by Mavrun

Estimate - $5222.51

I presume you are buying a part share of the dealership for that price? Will they make you a director?

[Mavrun]

Originally Posted by GDEvans

I presume you are buying a part share of the dealership for that price? Will they make you a director?

Going to ask for premium air in my tires, blinker fluid coz mine dont work and a desk coz I am about to start working there.

[TLEHMANN]

So thankful that an amazing Indy center is 5 minutes from me in my hometown of Oviedo, FL

[dmanb2b]

Originally Posted by Mavrun

I have asked this question to the dealer repeatedly to show me the routine of all these fluid exchanges or replacement. Dealer said B58 is designed like a "Diesel Engine" and to clear out the carbon buildup you need
Transfer Case Fluid
Front diff fluid
Rear diff fluid

This sounds completely vague to me. Everyone over here agrees that the money charged is preposterous and so is the service schedule.

The dealer is half right, but really just blowing smoke. Yes the B58 shares the same block as the diesel B57, but that's about where the similarities end, other than the b58 is still remarkably efficient. The B58 has shown no signs of carbon buildup that plagued the n54 and is completely unrelated to the transfer case or diffs.

There is truth that the diffs and xfer case should be serviced every 40-50k miles. Transmission every 50-60K and not via flush, but proper pan replacement and fluid refill. Again, this assumes you plan to keep the car long-term, otherwise the "lifetime" fluid mantra kicks in and it will likely run as is to 100k or more.

[Gritty]

Originally Posted by Mavrun

Got an update that I am officially F@CKED as the dealer has gone ahead and finished everything. When I spoke with him yesterday he said they're just working on the one tire today and trying to identify a rotational noise i've been hearing, fix that and then proceed with service.

This morning update - the service is complete and vehicle is due for a road test.

Lesson learnt - Ask a question here first.
Shop around.
I am officially going to buy myself a 🔫 and shoot me in the head to see whats wrong with me.

My work pays me miles so that helps a little but I'll 100 percent get a head scan.

Time to move on. At some point those fluids needed to be changed so now you are good until 100K miles.

[Score04]

Originally Posted by Mavrun

I tried these guys in Northbrook for a brake job on my last car (Volkswagen Passat). They were extremely professional.

midwestperformancecars.com

I live in West Loop, Chicago and this dealership is close to an hour away from me. And the funniest thing is the service center in the city is run by confused technicians. I may either go with Fluid Motor or MPC northbrook.

Thanks! They do work on all German makes? We also have an Audi at home. I didn’t see on their website car make specifics but assume if euro then they’ll do.

[AllBlackBimmer]

I am going to offer a different perspective (not saying I don't agree with many of the points already made)

But - if you are going to keep your car for a few more years, other than setting some money on fire, these are all (mostly, with some exceptions) good services to have done, and hurt absolutely nothing (other than your wallet)

For people that say diff fluid and trans fluid is premature at 50k, they may be true, but I also know BMW's "lifetime" fluids (aka 100,000 miles) is the BARE MINIMUM for the car not completely falling apart.

I have put a ton of money into my vehicles over the years keeping them well maintained - mechanically and cosmetically - and the ones I have gotten rid of I haven't really gotten any return on my "investment" as I was just making sure the next owner had a nicely maintained vehicle.

For me, having a well maintained vehicle is important as I am an enthusiast.
I have wasted more money and less important things.

If you can afford it, relatively speaking considering we are all driving 50-70k vehicles, then no harm no foul generally speaking. With that said, no one should get taken advantage of any garage BMW or not, and everything should look for best "value"... which is a personal and individual decision.

[jsh139]

I'd be curious to see a breakdown of all the charges. Even considering really high Chicago dealer rates, something isn't adding up.

Even over-inflating all of the services I get way lower than $5,000.

Front brakes? Maybe $1,000 at a dealer
Oil change? $200 for a fancy "oil service"
Transfer/diffs? $250 at most for each, so $750
Trans fluid? $250
Spark Plugs? $250
Air filter? $100
Tire rotation/Wheel balance? $100
Fuel Injection service (whatever that is): $100
Ethanol kit (again, WTF is this): $100
Misc "disposal fees": $250
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Subtotal: $3,100
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Sales tax (10.25%) : $317.75
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Total: $3,417.75


WTF is going on. There's like $1,800 unaccounted for.

[Mavrun]

Originally Posted by jsh139

I'd be curious to see a breakdown of all the charges. Even considering really high Chicago dealer rates, something isn't adding up.

Even over-inflating all of the services I get way lower than $5,000.

Front brakes? Maybe $1,000 at a dealer
Oil change? $200 for a fancy "oil service"
Transfer/diffs? $250 at most for each, so $750
Trans fluid? $250
Spark Plugs? $250
Air filter? $100
Tire rotation/Wheel balance? $100
Fuel Injection service (whatever that is): $100
Ethanol kit (again, WTF is this): $100
Misc "disposal fees": $250
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Subtotal: $3,100
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Sales tax (10.25%) : $317.75
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Total: $3,417.75


WTF is going on. There's like $1,800 unaccounted for.

Thanks for the breakdown. I am actually going to get the vehicle tomorrow. I'll upload the itemized invoice here as well. As far as your breakdown goes i'll cross check each and everything. They quoted $1500 for the front brakes.

[Poppyboy]

Do you recall how you agreed to this? Was it even explicit? If they took some “liberties” interpreting your affirmative, you should probably speak to the service manager about this and get this bill lowered substantially. Perhaps call Field’s or Knauz ahead of time to get a breakout of services as evidence of somewhat more reasonable charges. As they stand, the charges are absolutely egregious.

[dmicah]

Originally Posted by Mavrun

Got an update that I am officially F@CKED as the dealer has gone ahead and finished everything. When I spoke with him yesterday he said they're just working on the one tire today and trying to identify a rotational noise i've been hearing, fix that and then proceed with service.

This morning update - the service is complete and vehicle is due for a road test.

Lesson learnt - Ask a question here first.
Shop around.
I am officially going to buy myself a 🔫 and shoot me in the head to see whats wrong with me.

My work pays me miles so that helps a little but I'll 100 percent get a head scan.

Did you ever approve this work? I hadn't gotten the sense that you did. I wouldn't pay if you didn't approve the $5k price tag.

[Mavrun]

Originally Posted by Score04

Thanks! They do work on all German makes? We also have an Audi at home. I didn’t see on their website car make specifics but assume if euro then they’ll do.

I think they do, saw some Porsches and Audi's when I was there last time.

[bbb83]

Originally Posted by dmicah

Did you ever approve this work? I hadn't gotten the sense that you did. I wouldn't pay if you didn't approve the $5k price tag.

same here, that car is worth maybe $45k, you've just thrown away more than a 10th of it on maintenance that didn't need to be done

[Mavrun]

Originally Posted by Poppyboy

Do you recall how you agreed to this? Was it even explicit? If they took some “liberties” interpreting your affirmative, you should probably speak to the service manager about this and get this bill lowered substantially. Perhaps call Field’s or Knauz ahead of time to get a breakout of services as evidence of somewhat more reasonable charges. As they stand, the charges are absolutely egregious.

I did sign and allowed them to start the process but only after the tire and the associated problem related to it is fixed. I also spoke to them yesterday and was informed that once they fix the tire related issue they'll contact me about the Service items. Called this morning and was informed that the service was done and wheel alignment is the only thing left.

I went to Westmont coz they were absolutely flexible with appointments but fields and Knauz were not available (I guess I know why). Fields service rep told me he wont touch these major fluid exchanges until 100k or until something wrong with the car.

The car as of now is ready and with a bill of ~$4700. I have nothing to add besides blaming myself for not doing due diligence.

[jsh139]

Originally Posted by Mavrun

Thanks for the breakdown. I am actually going to get the vehicle tomorrow. I'll upload the itemized invoice here as well. As far as your breakdown goes i'll cross check each and everything. They quoted $1500 for the front brakes.

Yikes, $1,500? That’s such a shame. The pads are about $250 and each rotor is like $200. That’s $850 in labor. Clearly my estimates were way off. This dealer just jacks their prices way up.

FWIW, my brother drives a Maserati Ghibli SQ4. His Maserati dealer quoted him $1,200 for front brakes and the parts had to be shipped from Italy. We thought that was outrageous.

[Mavrun]

Originally Posted by jsh139

Yikes, $1,500? That's such a shame. The pads are about $250 and each rotor is like $200. That's $850 in labor. Clearly my estimates were way off. This dealer just jacks their prices way up.

FWIW, my brother drives a Maserati Ghibli SQ4. His Maserati dealer quoted him $1,200 for front brakes and the parts had to be shipped from Italy. We thought that was outrageous.

They said these are not regular rotors they are the "Beast M-Brakes". He saw right through me and I helped him be employee of the month.

[jeff3820]

Originally Posted by Mavrun

I have asked this question to the dealer repeatedly to show me the routine of all these fluid exchanges or replacement. Dealer said B58 is designed like a "Diesel Engine" and to clear out the carbon buildup you need
Transfer Case Fluid
Front diff fluid
Rear diff fluid

This sounds completely vague to me. Everyone over here agrees that the money charged is preposterous and so is the service schedule.

This is not vague, it is utter BULLSHIT. Carbon buildup would be behind the intake valves on an engine with direct injection so has nothing to do with the differentials or transfer case.

This dealer is all about generating profits…run away.

[freshxdough]

Originally Posted by Mavrun

I gave my car to a dealer in Chicago Suburbs today, and here's my service estimate. I've attached what the my BMW app recommends. I did a coolant flush and an engine flush at 40k. The vehicle is a 2019 CPO bought at 35k miles and Brake Fluid Flush was done at 25k miles. I do drive alot lot but the question is does this make sense ? Or am I getting extra special pricing ?

Basic Service
Oil Change
Cabin Air Filter
Windshield wiper fluid
Wheel Alignment
Rotate and Balance Tires

Mandatory Per the Dealer.
FRONT BRAKES COMPLETE (yet to get an update on front brakes thickness)
PDTC - REPLACE Transfer Case Fluid
PD64 - Replace Differential Fluid
PFGI - Perform Fuel Injection Service
PFEC- Install Ethanol corrosion Kit
Replace Spark Plugs
PD96 - Replace Rear Differential Fluid
PT12LV/PTSC - Perform Automatic Transmission Fluid Exchange

Estimate - $5222.51

The only things necessary are what is tied to your oil change/ CBS. Trans fluid is not a designated service interval. Front and Rear diff is not a designated service interval. Transfer case is not a designated service interval. Fuel injection service is purely an upsell. And engine ethanol (?) is purely an upsell. They're definitely upselling a bit here, but some people do want to perform these other fluid services around 50k-70k or so. I think they're really just trying to get the upsell. In my opinion, is probably do all these extra things around 60-70k as the trans fluid replacement from ZF is recommended about 70k miles if I'm not mistaken.

[Mavrun]

Here's the Final estimate they gave me. 🤣 I am about to kill myself, even with a Bmw Tire Package these guys charged me for the tire among other things. I am about to make Mike Collins employee of the decade.
Point A - Bullcrap should be $50
Point G - Condition based service 😂

[Poppyboy]

An example of how much this was a royal screw job: $352 for transfer case service (not even due at 50k miles). You could have done it yourself with 20 minutes, minimal effort and a $55 bottle of fluid.

[X3rd Time Is a Charm]

I would have another dealership or someone from BMW take a look at your invoice. The amount they charged you for the brakes and a couple of other services just don't jive it looks like they charged you twice for parts on the brakes . The numbers are crazy ! Now I know why they were trying to charge me $600.00 to change my air cabin filter and air filter ! They're over charging for labor always, How much money do you need to make?