[LogicalApex]

Most of this stuff is garbage.

I'd ask them for measurements on pad thickness and rotor thickness as well. As this all sounds like they are trying to pluck a fat bird.

Originally Posted by FutureTrunks_M40i

Has it been 3 years since you've have your M40i. If not, then you should be covered under your 3yr/50k service warranty that covers your oil change, cabin & engine filter, and spark plugs. The front brakes sound about right- however you can instead purchase an extended service warranty that covers your brakes and extends your warranty for about the same price as the brakes itself.

If you are using 91 octane- I wouldn't bother with the fuel injection cleaning service. But you can likely wait till 60k miles for that and include it during your next service.

In the US BMW only includes coverage for 3Y/36K miles. Extended coverage can be purchased to push it up to 7Y/125K miles with a variety of levels.

https://bmwusaservice.com/ultimatecare

[glennbk]

Originally Posted by TXGrey

Don't have one yet for the X4… I'm only 1.5 years into ownership so can use the dealer for almost everything (not to mention we only live 10 mins from all the Grapevine dealerships… both Porsche and BMW). I used RAC Performance when I had the Macan. Haven't decided yet on a Bimmer Indy… may look into using AutoScope, as one of the main mechanics at RAC Performance went over to AutoScope recently, and he's a good guy. Then again, it's DFW… I can prob throw a rock out the window and hit five good BMW mechanics with the number of Bimmers running around this town. I'll prob jump on the local BMW Club FaceBook page when the time comes, and just ask the group who people use around my side of town.

I'm just south of Love Field and plan to use European Service Center. i've heard excellent thing. AutoScope is one street over, but they are expensive.

[glennbk]

Originally Posted by bcwalks2

Tell the stealership to eat shit!

Likely don’t need rotors and pads are a few hundred.
Engine decarb and fuel injection cleaning is a crock of shit.
Alignment…why? That’s a high quote for an alignment. Unless your tires are wearing uneven there is no point.
Oil change is $60 and 30 minutes in the garage.
Cabin air filter….way high for a $40 part and a little time.
Plugs are less than $100 and take less than 1 hour with a magnetic spark plug socket.

Run fast and never go back.

Fluid MotorUnion

[rob175]

I just finished having the dealer perform the last "free" oil change service on my 2020 X3 w/31,000 miles.

After the work was completed they handed me a list of "recommended service"....LOL. It included the following:
1. Fuel injection service - $403
2. Wheel alignment - $249
3. Replace tires (18") - $1,460
4. Transfer case service - $331
5. Driveline service - $588

TOTAL....$3,158

I told them "thanks" and RAN out the door....lol.

**My tires are fine and wearing evenly and rotated every 6,000.
**I have a tire guy who always changes my tires and does alignment for MUCH LESS $$$
**BMW recommends transfer case service at 50k or 60k NOT at 30k.

I have always used my "indy" for 95% of all my work. Unless he tells me to take it to the dealer for very specialized BMW work...he does a fine job at about 40% to 50% less.

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by rob175

I just finished having the dealer perform the last "free" oil change service on my 2020 X3 w/31,000 miles.

After the work was completed they handed me a list of "recommended service"....LOL. It included the following:
1. Fuel injection service - $403
2. Wheel alignment - $249
3. Replace tires (18") - $1,460
4. Transfer case service - $331
5. Driveline service - $588

TOTAL....$3,158

I told them "thanks" and RAN out the door....lol.

**My tires are fine and wearing evenly and rotated every 6,000.
**I have a tire guy who always changes my tires and does alignment for MUCH LESS $$$
**BMW recommends transfer case service at 50k or 60k NOT at 30k.

I have always used my "indy" for 95% of all my work. Unless he tells me to take it to the dealer for very specialized BMW work...he does a fine job at about 40% to 50% less.

tires and alignment you can do on your own frankly anywhere...

what in the world is fuel injector service? especially at 31k miles lol? I had a 100K mile 335i w the same injectors. You only do that if the car is broken.

What is transfer case and driveline service and why at 30k lol?

[bcwalks2]

Originally Posted by rob175

I just finished having the dealer perform the last "free" oil change service on my 2020 X3 w/31,000 miles.

After the work was completed they handed me a list of "recommended service"....LOL. It included the following:
1. Fuel injection service - $403
2. Wheel alignment - $249
3. Replace tires (18") - $1,460
4. Transfer case service - $331
5. Driveline service - $588

TOTAL....$3,158

I told them "thanks" and RAN out the door....lol.



**My tires are fine and wearing evenly and rotated every 6,000.
**I have a tire guy who always changes my tires and does alignment for MUCH LESS $$$
**BMW recommends transfer case service at 50k or 60k NOT at 30k.

I have always used my "indy" for 95% of all my work. Unless he tells me to take it to the dealer for very specialized BMW work...he does a fine job at about 40% to 50% less.

What stealership was this? Going to guess Westmont!

[AllBlackBimmer]

Originally Posted by strom

My check engine light came on in my X3M40i, and took it for service. What I got back was a $3K bill for preventative maintenance. I don't wanna skim on any of it, but I also do not want to overpay. Hopefully, some of you can lmk if the prices are fair. (these are Penske dealer prices, I asked a local shop and they were actually pricier lol)

• Front Brakes: $1,123
• Engine DeCarb Flush: $271
• Clean Fuel Injection System: $271
• Alignment: $298
• Oil Change: $193
• Cabin Air Filter: $275
• Spark Plugs: $585

Only things I would not do are the Engine DeCarb Flush and Fuel Injection System.
You probably don't need an alignment unless your car is pulling to one side of the other.

The rest are all legit, assuming your vehicles needs these items. Spark plugs are good to do at 50k for a turbo engine, but not a 'must' but certainly keeps your engine strong.

Don't listen to the responses in here saying you got "ripped off"... the prices are generally inline with a BMW dealer.
Unless you plan to DIY, which doesn't sound like you are, skip the DeCarb, Fuel system, and alignment... pay for the rest, and go on about your day.

Some of the responses in this thread are flat out misinformed and ridiculous.

Yes they tried tp upsell you on a few items, thats what "sales" is... its up to the consumer to determine what is fair/worth it/needed.

[bcwalks2]

The prices are normal for a BMW stealership. But just because they all charge that, doesn’t mean it’s not a ripoff.

When did their hourly rate turn in to $400? Nearly $600 for spark plugs, that’s ridiculous for $100 in parts and an hour MAX of work.

[ASAP]

umm... oil change for $200 lol... I've never paid over $100 at my local dealer.

An alignment for $300? Most expensive alignment I've ever seen in my life.
Cabin air filter? $300? That's something I would just do...

Brakes... yea i guess that one is what it is.
Spark plugs at $600? The plugs are like $70... so 3hrs worth of work? I did it myself in 45 minutes on my 135i...

[AllBlackBimmer]

Originally Posted by bcwalks2

The prices are normal for a BMW stealership. But just because they all charge that, doesn’t mean it’s not a ripoff.

When did their hourly rate turn in to $400? Nearly $600 for spark plugs, that’s ridiculous for $100 in parts and an hour MAX of work.

$200 for factory plugs
2 hours of work at $150/hr
So yea, $500 isn't "Crazy" ...

Yes, you can go buy the plugs online cheaper.
And yes, you might be able to do them faster.
That's not how shop rates work, they have a book on quoted time and thats how they bill.

[AllBlackBimmer]

Originally Posted by ASAP

umm... oil change for $200 lol... I've never paid over $100 at my local dealer.

An alignment for $300? Most expensive alignment I've ever seen in my life.
Cabin air filter? $300? That's something I would just do...

Brakes... yea i guess that one is what it is.
Spark plugs at $600? The plugs are like $70... so 3hrs worth of work? I did it myself in 45 minutes on my 135i...

I also only pay $100 at my local dealer
and my dealer does front end alignments for $179

So yes, these rates are higher than "normal", but if this dealer is the only one in the area they can charge more - supply and demand.
Some dealers are in downtown LA vs. rural mid-west... which also effects rates and prices.
Some dealers discount the cars for sale, and hope to recoup money in service... some dealers sell their cars higher and have better service prices.
There are a lot of factors.

[TXGrey]

Originally Posted by AllBlackBimmer

I also only pay $100 at my local dealer
and my dealer does front end alignments for $179

So yes, these rates are higher than "normal", but if this dealer is the only one in the area they can charge more - supply and demand.
Some dealers are in downtown LA vs. rural mid-west... which also effects rates and prices.
Some dealers discount the cars for sale, and hope to recoup money in service... some dealers sell their cars higher and have better service prices.
There are a lot of factors.

And yes, alignments will get pricey these days if you have any sort of Driver Assist or Lane Keep Assist. If they touch your alignment, most (dealers) will say they need to check the radar calibration as well… otherwise, if something were to happen while using a DA feature after an alignment with no calibration, that can get all sorts of “who’s fault is it” deniability, etc. It’s a money grab for sure, but also a liability one. That’s why alignments aren’t $99 anymore with this type of tech. Is what it is…

You pay to play. And if you think this is bad, try owning a Porsche (unless you plan to do all your own work). Even Indy prices are steep.

[bcwalks2]

Originally Posted by TXGrey

And yes, alignments will get pricey these days if you have any sort of Driver Assist or Lane Keep Assist. If they touch your alignment, most (dealers) will say they need to check the radar calibration as well… otherwise, if something were to happen while using a DA feature after an alignment with no calibration, that can get all sorts of “who’s fault is it” deniability, etc. It’s a money grab for sure, but also a liability one. That’s why alignments aren’t $99 anymore with this type of tech. Is what it is…

You pay to play. And if you think this is bad, try owning a Porsche (unless you plan to do all your own work). Even Indy prices are steep.

Lol, ain’t this the truth! I sold a 2017 Macan S for the M40i…. About 3 weeks before the warranty went out on the Macan, I had a CEL for a thermostat issue. The weather was super cold that day, so I thought maybe a fluke and reset the CEL. Came back again and ended up needing a new thermostat, covered under warranty but was $3,500.

[bcwalks2]

Originally Posted by AllBlackBimmer

$200 for factory plugs
2 hours of work at $150/hr
So yea, $500 isn't "Crazy" ...

Yes, you can go buy the plugs online cheaper.
And yes, you might be able to do them faster.
That's not how shop rates work, they have a book on quoted time and thats how they bill.

It is literally a Champion plug, can get the same OEM one, that maybe doesn’t have the BMW logo on it for half. And that is exactly my point, it’s a rip-off because the book rates are garbage.

[AllBlackBimmer]

Originally Posted by bcwalks2

It is literally a Champion plug, can get the same OEM one, that maybe doesn’t have the BMW logo on it for half. And that is exactly my point, it’s a rip-off because the book rates are garbage.

Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it a rip-off

Go look at ANY "BMW" branded/logo'ed part, they aren't made by BMW, they are made from another company and then BMW stamps it and marks it up.
Do you not understand how business works?

Yes, the champion, or other comparable plugs out there are cheaper, obviously.
But the dealer isn't using those, they are using the bmw branded...
If you dont like it, then do use the dealer, but that doesn't make it a "rip off"

[bcwalks2]

Originally Posted by AllBlackBimmer

Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it a rip-off

Go look at ANY "BMW" branded/logo'ed part, they aren't made by BMW, they are made from another company and then BMW stamps it and marks it up.
Do you not understand how business works?

Yes, the champion, or other comparable plugs out there are cheaper, obviously.
But the dealer isn't using those, they are using the bmw brand...
If you dont like it, then do use the dealer, but that doesn't make it a "rip off"

I don’t think you understand… The OEM plugs are the exactly same thing that your car came with… Company X makes plugs and sells them under their name/SKU as an OEM.
Company X makes the SAME plugs, but has a nice stamped BMW logo and maybe another product number… Still the same plug, same materials and same spec…. Probably came off the same production line actually. At the end of the day, they are the same product it just doesn’t carry the BMW logo/markings.

Then, they do an hour service and go by book labor time, billing you for much longer than it actually took.

Not quite sure how one would try to argue that isn’t a rip off. To each their own though, if you want to pay extra for your inked logo on your plugs and pay the stealership several hundred dollars, have at it.

[Gordon H.]

Moral of the story, go to your local trusted independent shop for all work that is not warranty related. If you elect to do this work at the dealership, be prepared to open up your wallet, but don't b*tch about being dry humped after you get the invoice. It's a known fact that 9 out of 10 times dealerships charge way more for any type of work, but it's not like you didn't know that you have options.

[AlteBMW]

Originally Posted by Gordon H.

Moral of the story, go to your local trusted independent shop for all work that is not warranty related. If you elect to do this work at the dealership, be prepared to open up your wallet, but don't b*tch about being dry humped after you get the invoice. It's a known fact that 9 out of 10 times dealerships charge way more for any type of work, but it's not like you didn't know that you have options.

There are two issues here: (1) what work costs and (2) what work needs to be done. The really good indy shop I have used has labor rates that aren't that different from the local dealer. And the dealer will do oil changes at $99 and give me a loaner. I have a good relationsjip with my SA and extra crap never gets upsold. (I've got all new cars now so I'm talking about my prior ones past the BMW 3 years). If the dealer is more expensive, it is also more convenient and my time is worth something to me. I don't consider charges for work that needs to be done a ripoff if the dealer is honest. Indy charging a higher rate than AutoSpa or Jiffylube isn't a ripoff either. But the OP here seems to be at a dealer that proposed an awful lot of work that wasn't needed. That is taking advantage of a customer and I would indeed consider that a ripoff (by any repair shop).
BTW if you think BMW dealers have high rates and expensive parts, try having a car at a Mercedes dealer.

So what happned to the OP?

[TXGrey]

Originally Posted by AlteBMW

There are two issues here: (1) what work costs and (2) what work needs to be done. The really good indy shop I have used has labor rates that aren't that different from the local dealer. And the dealer will do oil changes at $99 and give me a loaner. I have a good relationsjip with my SA and extra crap never gets upsold. (I've got all new cars now so I'm talking about my prior ones past the BMW 3 years). If the dealer is more expensive, it is also more convenient and my time is worth something to me. I don't consider charges for work that needs to be done a ripoff if the dealer is honest. Indy charging a higher rate than AutoSpa or Jiffylube isn't a ripoff either. But the OP here seems to be at a dealer that proposed an awful lot of work that wasn't needed. That is taking advantage of a customer and I would indeed consider that a ripoff (by any repair shop).
BTW if you think BMW dealers have high rates and expensive parts, try having a car at a Mercedes dealer.

So what happned to the OP?

Or Porsche… it’s called the “Porsche Tax” for a reason….

[sunXero]

High prices, you could do lots of this yourself if you’re comfortable with it.

[Bilbofraggins]

I looked at that list and laughed....others have said it all.....

But I will say that the B58 plug job, is a bit more involved than a basic 4 banger N20.