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      01-14-2019, 04:43 AM   #1
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Retrofit Surround/3D View

Is it possible to retrofit (code) surround view and remote 3D view?

The option is only 500 extra in the UK, which suggests there is not a lot of hardware involved. The rear camera is included as standard, I believe the side cameras are already installed as part of the lane keeping hardware.

This would leave only the front camera? Or are there even more in the surround system?
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      01-14-2019, 04:48 AM   #2
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Is it possible to retrofit (code) surround view and remote 3D view?

The option is only £500 extra in the UK, which suggests there is not a lot of hardware involved. The rear camera is included as standard, I believe the side cameras are already installed as part of the lane keeping hardware.

This would leave only the front camera? Or are there even more in the surround system?
There's a camera in each of the door mirror housings on surround view, you would need to replace the complete door mirror unit plus I think the rear camera is different

£500 is extremely cheap for what you get when new, I would reckon a few thousand to retrofit
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There's a camera in each of the door mirror housings on surround view, you would need to replace the complete door mirror unit plus I think the rear camera is different

500 is extremely cheap for what you get when new, I would reckon a few thousand to retrofit
I think the cameras in the door mirrors are the same as the ones installed for lane-keeping (which I have). Would you be able to photograph the camera lenses in your mirrors?

Where is the front camera located?

Does anyone have access to the BMW service documents on this system?
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There's a camera in each of the door mirror housings on surround view, you would need to replace the complete door mirror unit plus I think the rear camera is different

£500 is extremely cheap for what you get when new, I would reckon a few thousand to retrofit
I think the cameras in the door mirrors are the same as the ones installed for lane-keeping (which I have). Would you be able to photograph the camera lenses in your mirrors?

Where is the front camera located?

Does anyone have access to the BMW service documents on this system?
The lane keeping cameras are in the housing at top of windscreen, these are different to the surround view ones

The front camera is central between front grilles


Did you order the car new or was it already built?
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I have the misfortune to replace a side mirror with camera on another car. Cost me over US$1000, which included the mirror assembly (a $970 before sales tax mirror with blind spot equipment plus the camera lens pre-installed), plus painting the mirror cap. This is only one single mirror:

Yes, chances are good that you will need a completely different mirror assembly too on the X3. This is not something that you want to do after market, might as well use the money as down payment for a new car.
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The lane keeping cameras are in the housing at top of windscreen, these are different to the surround view ones

The front camera is central between front grilles


Did you order the car new or was it already built?
Interesting, in my land rover, the lane keeping camera was a down-ward facing one in the base of the wing mirrors. I find it hard to believe the windscreen cameras can be that accurate for lane keeping, given the height and the angle over the hood, they could only possibly see the lines several feet in front of the vehicle which would be inaccurate if cornering.

Having said all that, I found the lane keeping alerts in the BMW to be very hit-and-miss compared the Land Rover, which was extremely sensitive to veering over the lane line. So maybe it is the case after all.
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Interesting, in my land rover, the lane keeping camera was a down-ward facing one in the base of the wing mirrors. I find it hard to believe the windscreen cameras can be that accurate for lane keeping, given the height and the angle over the hood, they could only possibly see the lines several feet in front of the vehicle which would be inaccurate if cornering.

Having said all that, I found the lane keeping alerts in the BMW to be very hit-and-miss compared the Land Rover, which was extremely sensitive to veering over the lane line. So maybe it is the case after all.
The Driving Assistant System got only the stereo-camera at the rear-view mirror, and 5 radar sensors (the middle one, and two in each corner of the bumpers front/rear), to play with.
If you have all the 360 view cameras hardware in your car, perhaps the factory made a mistake.
Double check your VIN at mdecoder.com and see if you have Parking Assistant Plus package, or not. SALAPA code i S5DNA.
You can also find out at realoem.com about the different hardware depending on SALAPA options for your car.
Over at https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/ you can also find some technical information.

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Front camera is between the grills, so you'd need a new front bumper.
Side cameras are in the mirrors, so you'd need 2 of those.
I believe the rear view camera is the same.

It would cost thousands in hardware, plus a bit of coding.
I don't think the wiring is there in the loom for the side view or front view cameras by default, so you'd have to add that wiring too i think.
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The lane keeping cameras are in the housing at top of windscreen, these are different to the surround view ones

The front camera is central between front grilles


Did you order the car new or was it already built?
Interesting, in my land rover, the lane keeping camera was a down-ward facing one in the base of the wing mirrors. I find it hard to believe the windscreen cameras can be that accurate for lane keeping, given the height and the angle over the hood, they could only possibly see the lines several feet in front of the vehicle which would be inaccurate if cornering.

Having said all that, I found the lane keeping alerts in the BMW to be very hit-and-miss compared the Land Rover, which was extremely sensitive to veering over the lane line. So maybe it is the case after all.
It shows in the manual where the cameras are in top of windscreen, I suppose it reads the road in front to predict the change plus there are sensors around car

The cameras you describe in the Land Rover door mirrors are in the same place as my surround view cameras so it should be obvious if you have those, they're not hidden
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