[Ravenous666]

Originally Posted by avi66

Out of curiosity is there any info from BMW stating that they've moved to matrix only ?

I also couldn't find that anywhere. And when looking on the way 3 series and X5 laserlight operates, it is still a mechanical swivel for the curves.

From other brands I have never seen an effect as good as the BMWs swivel when it comes to the illumination of curves.

[Tim@codemybimmer]

Originally Posted by avi66

Out of curiosity is there any info from BMW stating that they've moved to matrix only?

The only BMW that's actively advertised with Adaptive LED headlights with Matrix function for non-dazzling high beams is the G29 Z4

Originally Posted by Ravenous666

I also couldn't find that anywhere. And when looking on the way 3 series and X5 laserlight operates, it is still a mechanical swivel for the curves.

I'm gonna have to go out on a limb here and actually find one to test drive in the dark to confirm. I do note that the 330i with 5A4 LED headlights had mechanical swivel, but I can't for sure say that with the Laserlights on those.

I do want to note the snippet i found in the owners manual with 5AZ on my F98 LCI which seems odd that it states only the laser high beams follow the road.

EDIT: Seems the same wording applies on the G30 LCI (5 Series), however the G20 (3 Series) has the correct description for the mechanical swivel that its just the normal lights and not swivelling to the oncoming lane when stationary. I did see from the G30 forums from people in EU that their G30 LCI laserlights are also matrix LEDs in that they bend light but not mechanically as I had denoted in my earlier post. So it does indeed seem that BMW is moving towards matrix LED technology and are relying on computer controlled zone lighting swivel rather than mechanical - Source: https://g30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...9&postcount=41

[musik92]

From X3 LCI Driver's Guide:

[avi66]

Originally Posted by Ravenous666

I also couldn't find that anywhere. And when looking on the way 3 series and X5 laserlight operates, it is still a mechanical swivel for the curves.

From other brands I have never seen an effect as good as the BMWs swivel when it comes to the illumination of curves.

Interesting snippet from the X3 LCI Media Information Document -

"Headlights which are about ten millimetres flatter, with full LED
technology as standard. In addition to the optional adaptive LED
headlights with Matrix function (standard in the BMW X4),
BMW Laser Light with a range of up to 650 metres now also
available as an optional extra."

In the UK, the LCI X3 and X4 share the same standard headlights.

https://www.hella.com/hella-com/en/p...021-19305.html

"Adaptive matrix headlamps provide better visibility

Lippstadt, 27 January 2021. HELLA continues to advance the digitalization of automotive lighting technology. A central focus here is on the development of sophisticated software-based matrix LED headlamp systems which enable safety and comfort-relevant functions such as adaptive, glare-free high beam thanks to individually controllable light elements, while at the same time meeting the high design demands of automobile manufacturers. For example, HELLA has now brought adaptive matrix LED headlamps into series production for the first time for the BMW Group. For the premium equipment, HELLA has also integrated a laser light source for the glare-free high beam function in the new BMW 5 Series.

Light signatures significantly contribute to the external appearance of a vehicle. Narrow headlamps, for example, support a dynamic and sportive impression. With this in mind, HELLA has integrated basic headlamps with Bi-LED modules in the latest model generation of the BMW 5 Series. They have a U-shaped daytime running light. The adaptive LED headlamps, on the other hand, have an L-shaped daytime running light. For this variant, HELLA has developed an LED matrix module with twelve channels that enables dynamic light functions.

The individually controllable matrix elements produce an extremely precise and highly variable light distribution for the illumination of the road and thus ensure better visibility in the dark. As a further function, the design of the headlamp with matrix technology also enables the masking of vehicles in front and oncoming traffic. This can be controlled via the glare-free high-beam assistant (BMW Selective Beam). In this mode, the headlamps provide the driver with high beam even when other vehicles are within the illumination range of the headlamps. Within fractions of a second, these vehicles are masked.

For the premium variant with laser light, HELLA has integrated a dynamic laser into the headlamp in addition to the LED matrix module. This is also active with partially dimmed segments and then extends the area already illuminated by the low beam. In this way, it supports the typical illumination range of the low beam and still reduces glare for other road users. A characteristic blue design element in the headlamp is a trademark of the premium equipment with laser light source. In both the adaptive LED headlamp and the laser headlamp, the direction indicators are an integral part of the daytime running light icons"

[jsh139]

It's pretty clear to me that the LEDs in my car use this matrix technology. When the automatic high beams come on, you can see different elements lighting up. It's not an instant-on high beam. They come on at slightly different times.

Maybe Bimmercode will eventually integrate this as a simple coding instead of having to go through expert coding.

[sunay27]

Originally Posted by jsh139

It's pretty clear to me that the LEDs in my car use this matrix technology. When the automatic high beams come on, you can see different elements lighting up. It's not an instant-on high beam. They come on at slightly different times.

Maybe Bimmercode will eventually integrate this as a simple coding instead of having to go through expert coding.

Yeah looking at all the explanations above, I am convinced it is of course matrix technology. Like you mentioned the high beams do not turn on like any other bulbs, they fade in and fade out gradually. May be the spread is wide enough that it doesn't have to swivel when the steering turns. The cornering lights would take care of the blind spots during sharp turns.

[avi66]

Originally Posted by sunay27

The cornering lights would take care of the blind spots during sharp turns.

AFAIk these only work at a lower speed, assuming they operate like the latest 5 series -

"Additional LED cornering lights improve vision at close range, operated with activation of the direction indicator or with corresponding steering wheel input at a speed up to approximately 35mph/56kph."

[jsh139]

Originally Posted by jsh139

Maybe Bimmercode will eventually integrate this as a simple coding instead of having to go through expert coding.

I emailed Bimmercode support and they said it's not currently being planned for. Bummer

[TSA_18]

I've had my X4 20d LCI model for a few weeks now.

Have to say I really like the phytonic blue colour.

See below some pictures just after it arrived with the white protective tape still intact.

[Falcon007]

im looking for an M40i X3 and cant find what's the différence between digital cockpit plus and pro on the 2022.

Im from Canada and its an option.

Is it the same screen, but pro as more option?

I want the nice big dual screen.

thanks!

[lap777]

Originally Posted by Falcon007

im looking for an M40i X3 and cant find what's the différence between digital cockpit plus and pro on the 2022.

Im from Canada and its an option.

Is it the same screen, but pro as more option?

I want the nice big dual screen.

thanks!

You want the pro, but maybe that's the default on the M40i.

[JJ 911SC]

Originally Posted by lap777

You want the pro, but maybe that's the default on the M40i.

No, it's a $1200 option in Canada. The default is Cockpit Plus.

If you pick ADAP option @ $2,000, the Pro get added automatically.

But yes Falcon007, you want the Pro version, 12" display vice 10"

[sunay27]

Originally Posted by Falcon007

im looking for an M40i X3 and cant find what's the différence between digital cockpit plus and pro on the 2022.

Im from Canada and its an option.

Is it the same screen, but pro as more option?

I want the nice big dual screen.

thanks!

AFAIK, Pro is for the additional features such as adaptive cruise control and there will be a camera on the instrument panel which monitors the driver's eye and assists in the event of drowsiness or the eyes close.

[Ravenous666]

Originally Posted by Falcon007

im looking for an M40i X3 and cant find what's the différence between digital cockpit plus and pro on the 2022.

Im from Canada and its an option.

Is it the same screen, but pro as more option?

I want the nice big dual screen.

thanks!

Plus is partial digital cockpit with 10" center display
Pro is full digital cockpit wit 12" center display

You want the pro

[Luna]

Anyone know if all X3 have moon roofs? Could I order one without it?
For anyone wondering, I really don't like how the much heat comes through that glass and I feel safer with a non glass roof over my head.

[jsh139]

It's a standard feature on the M40i. It's a stand-alone option or part of the packages on the 30i. But, I don't believe there is a "delete" option for it, so you pretty much have to get it if you want any of the bundled packages. It's part of the Convenience and Premium 2 packages.

[kenrok1]

the X3M has a delete opt - they dont give you anything back for though.. is just $0

[f82fanatic]

Originally Posted by kenrok1

the X3M has a delete opt - they dont give you anything back for though.. is just $0

X3M moon roof is an option, not standard (in the US). You can order it in a package or individually.

You are referring to deleting it from the M Drivers package. Which you would need to purchase in the first place.

[kenrok1]

Originally Posted by f82fanatic

X3M moon roof is an option, not standard (in the US). You can order it in a package or individually.

You are referring to deleting it from the M Drivers package. Which you would need to purchase in the first place.

actually you're right -but the exec package, not M driver

[f82fanatic]

Originally Posted by kenrok1

actually you're right -but the exec package, not M driver

The exec package adds it.

In order to delete it if you want exec package in your build, you need to add M Drivers package and request pano delete. This is my understanding.

It's cumbersome, to say the least…

[srekal34]

I just ordered LCI 2.0i and 1 thing really bothers me.
Pre facelift models had electrically folding rear seats(via lever close to taillights) and floor mat with a gas strut. It looks like both of the things are now gone(I guess due to cost cutting). This makes me wonder where else had they cut costs. Moreover, none of the youtubers mention these obvious downgrades compared to the pre facelift...

[nyquistcondition]

Originally Posted by srekal34

I just ordered LCI 2.0i and 1 thing really bothers me.
Pre facelift models had electrically folding rear seats(via lever close to taillights) and floor mat with a gas strut. It looks like both of the things are now gone(I guess due to cost cutting). This makes me wonder where else had they cut costs. Moreover, none of the youtubers mention these obvious downgrades compared to the pre facelift...

I see this complaint but I don't agree. It's pretty easy to lean forward and push the buttons on the top of the rear seats. It's not far. And it eliminates extra stuff. Doesn't bother me.