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      07-31-2020, 07:25 PM   #45
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OTA is not supported on the X3.
My brand new X3 owner's manual has a three-page section on Remote Software Upgrades. You're saying it isn't true?
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      07-31-2020, 08:06 PM   #46
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OTA is not supported on the X3.
My brand new X3 owner's manual has a three-page section on Remote Software Upgrades. You're saying it isn't true?
My 2020 X3 has the same place in the manual about remote software upgrades too but X3s do not have it. You can check to see if you have it in the menu setting the manual refers to but I'm betting it will not be there just like the rest of ours. If it is then that would be huge news for us that have been wishing it would come.
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      08-01-2020, 10:11 AM   #47
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My 2020 X3 has the same place in the manual about remote software upgrades too but X3s do not have it. You can check to see if you have it in the menu setting the manual refers to but I'm betting it will not be there just like the rest of ours. If it is then that would be huge news for us that have been wishing it would come.
I'll check and report back. But I'm already skeptical.
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      08-01-2020, 10:27 AM   #48
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My 2020 X3 has the same place in the manual about remote software upgrades too but X3s do not have it. You can check to see if you have it in the menu setting the manual refers to but I'm betting it will not be there just like the rest of ours. If it is then that would be huge news for us that have been wishing it would come.
You are correct. It is not in the menu system as specified. HOWEVER, the manual does say that "The available data for Remote Software Upgrade is automatically loaded into the vehicle." That MAY mean that when an upgrade is available then the menu option will appear, because apparently the actual upgrade is not automatic ("BMW recommends performing the Remote Software Upgrade as soon as it becomes available.")

So maybe what automatically "becomes available" is the Remote Software Upgrade functionality.
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      08-01-2020, 10:58 AM   #49
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You are correct. It is not in the menu system as specified. HOWEVER, the manual does say that "The available data for Remote Software Upgrade is automatically loaded into the vehicle." That MAY mean that when an upgrade is available then the menu option will appear, because apparently the actual upgrade is not automatic ("BMW recommends performing the Remote Software Upgrade as soon as it becomes available.")

So maybe what automatically "becomes available" is the Remote Software Upgrade functionality.
I really do hope that what the manual says is actually true, but from my own experience, what I've heard from other MY2020 G01/G02 (and G30's with the same ID7 "lite") forum members, and even BMW genius, our 2020 X3's with ID7 "lite" don't have all of the same hardware capabilities as other ID7 full version vehicles. Since you just got your X3, it's possible that it may be different, but I believe only the X3s starting with model year 2021 will have the proper hardware which includes the module for OTA software updates. It does, however, have the hardware for navigation updates which I can confirm receiving.

At some point when you take yours in for service, request a G20 3-series with ID7 as a loaner, and you'll see what a full version ID7 vehicle is like. It has the Remote Software Upgrade menu item under car settings even though there are no new updates available. It even shows the current software version.

We can hope that our X3's somehow gain that capability as many of the dealers think that they have it already - and it can be complicated getting some SAs to understand that they manually have to update our software regardless of a warranty issue - but I just took my 03/2020 production X3 with ID7 in for a software upgrade to get AA, and it still does not have that RSU option under car settings.
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No, without the menu entry it's not there and never will be. Otherwise you would have had the AA update without a dealer visit.
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      08-01-2020, 11:44 AM   #51
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No, without the menu entry it's not there and never will be. Otherwise you would have had the AA update without a dealer visit.


Not strictly true. Plenty of new m135i owners with remote software update capability have no option to download AA yet. A few have paid to have the dealers update their car to AA rather than wait for the expected OTA at end of the year.

At least in the UK that is.
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      08-01-2020, 02:33 PM   #52
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Android auto is only available from dealer programming software at this time and not yet available for remote software upgrade (which X3 does not have). Remote software upgrade is currently at 19/11 and I believe some cars have been getting 20/03. Android auto was released with 20/07 software in July.
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      08-03-2020, 07:55 AM   #53
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No, without the menu entry it's not there and never will be. Otherwise you would have had the AA update without a dealer visit.
Yeah, that's apparently true. From my BMW ConnectedDrive account:
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      08-03-2020, 09:40 AM   #54
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I'm on the same boat (OTA updates) for my 2020 X3 according to my BMW ConnectedDrive account. Production 11/19 with all tech options.
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I'm on the same boat (OTA updates) for my 2020 X3 according to my BMW ConnectedDrive account. Production 11/19 with all tech options.
Maybe it's a firmware and not a hardware limitation. After all, map updates are OTA. So MAYBE the next dealer-installed software upgrade will include OTA capability for future upgrades.
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Maybe it's a firmware and not a hardware limitation. After all, map updates are OTA. So MAYBE the next dealer-installed software upgrade will include OTA capability for future upgrades.
It has got to be something. I wandered in from the G30 forum as I have a MY2020 530e with iDrive 7 "lite" also marooned on the island of dealer updates with limited enhancements (just got my AA update installed on Thursday).

The fact it made it into both the MY2020 5-Series manual and the MY2020 X3 manual makes me think this was less of an "accident".

That being said, who knows if it will ever be resolved. Really burns my coals though that this wasn't made clear to us before we purchased.
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Maybe it's a firmware and not a hardware limitation. After all, map updates are OTA. So MAYBE the next dealer-installed software upgrade will include OTA capability for future upgrades.
It's still not there in the 7/20 update.
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      08-05-2020, 11:19 PM   #58
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It's still not there in the 7/20 update.
It will never be there on a pre LCI 2022 car.
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I have just entered VIN in BMW\UPDATE
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Dream on......
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      08-06-2020, 05:27 PM   #61
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I took my car in two days ago and they told me my MY20 x3 does not have the hardware for android auto, they would need to purchase a retrofit kit and install. Sigh... I thought all MY20 model with the digital dash is capable of updating to android auto..
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I took my car in two days ago and they told me my MY20 x3 does not have the hardware for android auto, they would need to purchase a retrofit kit and install. Sigh... I thought all MY20 model with the digital dash is capable of updating to android auto..
did they say what hardware? My 2020 M40i (March build) has every tech option so am hoping no other hardware is necessary
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I took my car in two days ago and they told me my MY20 x3 does not have the hardware for android auto, they would need to purchase a retrofit kit and install. Sigh... I thought all MY20 model with the digital dash is capable of updating to android auto..
did they say what hardware? My 2020 M40i (March build) has every tech option so am hoping no other hardware is necessary
They didn't say. They said they don't have that kit in stock yet.
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I took my car in two days ago and they told me my MY20 x3 does not have the hardware for android auto, they would need to purchase a retrofit kit and install. Sigh... I thought all MY20 model with the digital dash is capable of updating to android auto..
They don't know what they are talking about. Just like my dealership who told me no update is available and wait until next year.

BMW have left existing owners completely in the dark with zero information on this. Why even bother coming out with an update at all when owners are not told they can get it, dealers are not told owners can request it and the vehicle can't be updated OTA or even USB by the owner?

All we have is word of mouth and that's just not good enough.

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There has to be a business reason behind BMW not wanting to provide the update.
Either from the manufacturer or at the local dealership level.

If I'm willing to pay the labor rate specified by the manufacturer and get the update give it to me.

If your technicians are too inept to perform it in an amount of time that allows you to be profitable, that's not our problem.

Apologies for my rant but I am in a similar business and unless your hardware doesn't support the software, you get it.

I got my stack of acorns waiting for my dealer service manager to call me back and tell me to bring the car in for the last two weeks
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I took my car in two days ago and they told me my MY20 x3 does not have the hardware for android auto, they would need to purchase a retrofit kit and install. Sigh... I thought all MY20 model with the digital dash is capable of updating to android auto..
did they say what hardware? My 2020 M40i (March build) has every tech option so am hoping no other hardware is necessary
They didn't say. They said they don't have that kit in stock yet.
I would ask for specifically what is the part number so at least they give you some type of information and you can then decide for yourself if they really know what they're talking about. If they ordered it or are waiting for a specific part they should definitely have a part number. And if you get no proper answer or a blank stare then you know that they are full of BS.
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