07-12-2019, 05:18 AM | #45 |
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BMW Group hardly knocking it out of the park with electric vehicles. Same story with new Mini
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07-12-2019, 07:09 AM | #47 | |
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I'm a huge believer in snow tires, especially living where we do. But the % of Americans who will mess with snow tires anymore is low and dwindling lower. This vehicle will need to be taken out back and put out if its misery in a short period if it doesn't have AWD. I hope the information coming-out stating it will have xDrive are correct.
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07-12-2019, 08:29 AM | #48 | |
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Luckily we have a wide variety of options and can buy what we want, rather than just the minimum one might need. People aren't usually called out or chuckled at for that. The implication here is that people should like the iX3 and buy it even if it doesn't have what they want. If it's going to come with AWD then that might appease some of us, but we are reacting to the report as stated. |
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07-12-2019, 09:05 AM | #49 |
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I'd consider this vehicle. LWB is attractive. RWD not a problem in Houston. I'd order it this way, even if AWD was an option--just like I'd "delete" a sunroof, if possible. Absolutely useless in Houston sun and humidity 10 months of the year. BUT--price will be an issue. If it's the same price as e-Tron or EQC, I'll give it a quick pass. Tesla, because of Model S, has more brand cachet in Houston than BMW, with it's volumes of X3 and 3-series around here. An iX3 won't help this image problem. A Tesla Model Y will eat it's lunch in the "not quite prestige" market and it won't even be competing for the same buyers as the EQC and e-Tron. It needs to be priced at the Model3/Model Y price points to have a chance and at that price point it would be top of my list.
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07-12-2019, 10:26 AM | #50 |
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G08 does not have a longer wheelsbase than G01.
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Now we are pretty far north so this doesn't apply to everyone but I had top flight snow tires on my 2WD 3-series sedan and my 2WD Golf and I spent way too much time getting towed down the road. This is not in the ditch, just making it down a road that may not have been plowed in the last few hours. If its not delivering power to 4 wheels I won't look at it for our use.
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07-12-2019, 11:36 AM | #53 |
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07-12-2019, 11:50 AM | #54 | |
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https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...-arctic-circle Didn't notice that when that PR was issued. |
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07-12-2019, 01:54 PM | #55 | |
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sor and midwest 340xi 6sp - I get that people want it, but the want is still unreasonable I think, not saying they shouldn't have the option to buy it. Of course people are free to like what they want. IMO the AWD trend is actually just a marketing product - I remember 15 years ago most people didn't have AWD where I live and they didn't want it - for reasons which still stand today - unnecessary weight, worse driving experience and cost associated with it. But the marketing has pushed this so far (especially in luxury sedan class - started with Audi which had the better Quattro system, the costumers who didn't pay lots of attention just saw that MB and BMW were missing it, which in turn spurred these two to start pushing AWD systems on every car) that now you can't find the sportiest versions of models in RWD form. Still, the cheaper brand cars are still able to get to work normally and on time in winter (which usually don't have AWD). I reckon that for extreme cases it's smart to have one AWD car at home. |
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07-12-2019, 03:37 PM | #57 |
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This thread is very interesting to me. Normally on this forum there are heated discussions with people arguing that BMWs should be RWD, not AWD. Now BMW is going to be selling a RWD only model and everyone in this thread is complaining.
Where I live I would prefer RWD. But it is fascinating to me that there are such strong opinions in both directions. |
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07-12-2019, 04:39 PM | #58 | |
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Complexity and weight are valid arguments still, but AWD as become an automatic checkbox in the now every person's BMW vs the more enthusiast leaning BMW of yore. Power has also become big enough that most people don't have the chops to control non-AWD vehicles. I drive better than the average bear, and I have no problems with RWD in my F80 M3. I don't think my wife would feel the same way about the car. Together with the never ending chase to diminishing 0-60 times, you need AWD for that. |
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You're right. Thank you for the correction. I'm so used to China-specific BMWs all having long wheelbase that I didn't even bother to double check this.
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I didn't even Ask him any Q about the IX3, he just had gotten an official Mail from BMW, and within that Mail, it was also info about range, and trailerhitch and battery netto capasity, and then some. He was just releaved it came with AWD, because if it had just a RWD, the sales would be laughable. He discussed the info with his sales team and with me this Monday. He was not impressed with the size of the battery, wanted a bigger one, so we discussed the E-tron and i-pace against the iX3. I know there are a 4 digit amount of preorders who have bought a number in line, as beeing the first to recieve this EV, they should also have this info by now.
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5th Gen eDrive unit, but not 5th Gen battery packs - those are going to debut with i4. While iNext will also debut a brand new BEV platform based on a new modular CLAR WE architecture. So the iNext coming in 2021 will be the first BMW BEV with all the latest BEV tech (eDrive, batteries, new platform). iX3 and i4 are just electrified X3 / 4er GC, based on current CLAR architecture. |
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An AWD internal combustion vehicle would never have two gas-powered engines in it so AWD had some benefits and some drawbacks. AWD electric vehicles have more benefits and fewer downsides compared to their counterparts with only a single motor. |
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