[thestimp]

Originally Posted by bad430benz

First off , I never bashed JTLD or said anything negative about any Chinese companies so not sure why you start off with that ??

I purchased the stainless and not titanium so I think I got a good deal on what I bought . No , it wasn't $450 but it was no where near your $4500 price tag .


You know it doesn't make pipes bend different or create a whole different exhaust between stainless and titanium ? The design remains the same even if they were made with paper mache . I posted and circled the differences between the two . I will leave it with this..........

Anyone want to show me where the 2 different exhausts are identical and disprove the circled differences I posted ?

Next question I have is what did everyone else pay for their Alibaba exhaust ?

1800 for titanium valvetronic, resonated single mid-pipe with new box/muffler, shipped to my door.

[TacosRule!]

Originally Posted by thestimp

1800 for titanium valvetronic, resonated single mid-pipe with new box/muffler, shipped to my door.

I've seen one for 1400ish and one for 1800ish (and several for 3K). Whats the difference between the first two? The pictures are identical, same finish, same everything including shipping charges.
Does yours include any electronics? Do you retain OE control of the valves?

[thestimp]

Originally Posted by TacosRule!

I've seen one for 1400ish and one for 1800ish (and several for 3K). Whats the difference between the first two? The pictures are identical, same finish, same everything including shipping charges.
Does yours include any electronics? Do you retain OE control of the valves?

Some will have you reuse stock valve controllers, some come with all new ones, mine came with all new ones and a remote. Literally a no brainer considering the alternate from the USA is like $5k.

[hybridel]

Originally Posted by thestimp

Some will have you reuse stock valve controllers, some come with all new ones, mine came with all new ones and a remote. Literally a no brainer considering the alternate from the USA is like $5k.

Did you reuse your stock valves?

[thestimp]

Originally Posted by hybridel

Did you reuse your stock valves?

Nope, everything came as a complete kit. Nothing to carry over except the exhaust hangers.

[bad430benz]

Originally Posted by thestimp

1800 for titanium valvetronic, resonated single mid-pipe with new box/muffler, shipped to my door.

There is an option for single mid or EL ? I don't understand the "new box/muffler" .

Originally Posted by thestimp

Nope, everything came as a complete kit. Nothing to carry over except the exhaust hangers.

Not sure I understand this one either ??

By the way , you paid triple the cost than just going straight to the source

I'm not trying to argue with you guys . I was happy with my purchase at the time . I paid less than you think and more than Alibaba pricing . In the end , I spent my money and was happy . I ended up not using it and sold it to someone that will appreciate it .

[thestimp]

Originally Posted by bad430benz

There is an option for single mid or EL ? I don't understand the "new box/muffler" .

A muffler or "box" is that thing in the back of your car at the end of the exhaust tubes that makes the sound no hurty your ears.


Originally Posted by thestimp View Post
Nope, everything came as a complete kit. Nothing to carry over except the exhaust hangers.

Not sure I understand this one either ??

You open a box, and bolt on an entirely new exhaust system up to the Cats, zero parts reused.

By the way , you paid triple the cost than just going straight to the source

I'm not trying to argue with you guys . I was happy with my purchase at the time . I paid less than you think and more than Alibaba pricing . In the end , I spent my money and was happy . I ended up not using it and sold it to someone that will appreciate it .

Didnt pay triple the cost, I made a /custom/ exhaust that I wanted with all the parts I wanted with my factory in China that I use. It was welded a certain way so I don't have to "put it together" like other chinesium. I am the sourcing agent for a few factories so I'm aware of whats what in the industry and what things cost.

You sound dense.

[TacosRule!]

Originally Posted by thestimp

Nope, everything came as a complete kit. Nothing to carry over except the exhaust hangers.

So you're forced to use their remote to open/close valves, but can you wire them to the stock connectors to use the OE button?


That's the last thing I am checking on before I place the order for mine. Still on the fence on whether I do Ti or just SS because I'm leaving the OE secondary cats alone.

[thestimp]

Originally Posted by TacosRule!

So you're forced to use their remote to open/close valves, but can you wire them to the stock connectors to use the OE button?


That's the last thing I am checking on before I place the order for mine. Still on the fence on whether I do Ti or just SS because I'm leaving the OE secondary cats alone.

Ditch everything behind the stock cats, it will be fine, unless your in CA.

Yes you can use OEM you just transplant them but make sure the one you buy you can do that.

Mine came with a remote which I programed to the garage door buttons AND it also setup as (ON valves open/Off OEM)

[kidxin]

Originally Posted by bad430benz

You know it doesn't make pipes bend different or create a whole different exhaust between stainless and titanium ? The design remains the same even if they were made with paper mache . I posted and circled the differences between the two . I will leave it with this..........

Anyone want to show me where the 2 different exhausts are identical and disprove the circled differences I posted ?

Next question I have is what did everyone else pay for their Alibaba exhaust ?

I have no clue what you circled (I don’t know if you’re circling at clamps or the metal pieces wrapping the exhaust) but titanium and stainless are different the way they craft it. Stainless doesn’t have “bands” around the pipes on corners that bend, you just see welds. So there is a difference between titanium and stainless exhausts. It doesn’t even look similar. If you compare two titanium Catbacks you would see lots of similarities thus the Carbann and valvetronic. However one has dual midpipes.

[TacosRule!]

Originally Posted by thestimp

Ditch everything behind the stock cats, it will be fine, unless your in CA.

Yes you can use OEM you just transplant them but make sure the one you buy you can do that.

Mine came with a remote which I programed to the garage door buttons AND it also setup as (ON valves open/Off OEM)

Awesome, thanks for the 411

[bad430benz]

Originally Posted by thestimp

Didnt pay triple the cost, I made a /custom/ exhaust that I wanted with all the parts I wanted with my factory in China that I use. It was welded a certain way so I don't have to "put it together" like other chinesium. I am the sourcing agent for a few factories so I'm aware of whats what in the industry and what things cost.

You sound dense.

I sound dense ???

You guys claim you can get it direct from the source for $600 but then you buy it for $1800 . You never once mentioned you had it custom made until right now . The reason I questioned you about the new box/muffler comment is because I have never purchased a new exhaust that reused the original box/muffler . Do you understand where I’m coming from now ?

[bad430benz]

Originally Posted by kidxin

I have no clue what you circled (I don’t know if you’re circling at clamps or the metal pieces wrapping the exhaust) but titanium and stainless are different the way they craft it. Stainless doesn’t have “bands” around the pipes on corners that bend, you just see welds. So there is a difference between titanium and stainless exhausts. It doesn’t even look similar. If you compare two titanium Catbacks you would see lots of similarities thus the Carbann and valvetronic. However one has dual midpipes.

I circled every spot in the piping where the bends are different between the 2 exhausts . Even Ray Charles can see the bends are not the same from the 2 no matter whether it’s stainless or titanium . Seems like the only parts that match up between the two are the tips and the box/muffler . Look at every part I circled in red and tell me I’m not correct in saying the bends are different .

[Vettethret]

Originally Posted by bad430benz

I circled every spot in the piping where the bends are different between the 2 exhausts . Even Ray Charles can see the bends are not the same from the 2 no matter whether it’s stainless or titanium . Seems like the only parts that match up between the two are the tips and the box/muffler . Look at every part I circled in red and tell me I’m not correct in saying the bends are different .

Ray Charles, Maybe. Helen Keller, NO WAY!

[Brandt51]

This is a wild thread I never expected to see this late in the internet age. Hell yeah.

So, some fancy exhaust makers just had their product made in China by an outfit that does it for a lot of other folks? Dang.

But, the Chinese exhausts are pretty well made? But some folks were over charged? Also dang. Good luck folks.

[keywin]

After reading all of this i ended up talking to an agent who was able to make me a "valvetronic" catback with a "AA equal length midpipe". this seemed like the best combo for an exhaust and i will post vids and pics when it arrives in about a month.

[thestimp]

Originally Posted by keywin

After reading all of this i ended up talking to an agent who was able to make me a "valvetronic" catback with a "AA equal length midpipe". this seemed like the best combo for an exhaust and i will post vids and pics when it arrives in about a month.

ask them to put a resonator in it for the drone at 2800 rpm.

[TacosRule!]

Originally Posted by keywin

After reading all of this i ended up talking to an agent who was able to make me a "valvetronic" catback with a "AA equal length midpipe". this seemed like the best combo for an exhaust and i will post vids and pics when it arrives in about a month.

Yea please post details. Thanks

[TacosRule!]

Originally Posted by thestimp

ask them to put a resonator in it for the drone at 2800 rpm.

Duly noted. I was looking at non resonated, that's crossed off the list.

[hybridel]

Here are the sound clips people have been asking for

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeA...NZCO_wkgbnrJrw

[TacosRule!]

Originally Posted by hybridel

Here are the sound clips people have been asking for

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeA...NZCO_wkgbnrJrw

Very nice, thanks for posting. Is the dual equal length that much louder, or was the camera closer to the car?

[keywin]

Originally Posted by thestimp

ask them to put a resonator in it for the drone at 2800 rpm.

oh yeah definitely adding a resonator to the midpipe