[Yobyot]

Originally Posted by tenflyer

So what I did just confirm, is there is a supply shortage leading to unavailability on ZDA and ZDB. So the order my dealer just placed is going to be delayed a few more weeks than the typical 3-4 weeks people have been getting. So that does explain why BMW removed those packages from the site - what would be helpful is if they explained that on the site. I have a great dealer, they are on top of it, and hopefully in a few weeks my order can go a step closer to production.

Your dealer is full of it. The revised website configuration shows that the Executive package includes Driving Assistance Plus, which includes the Driving Assistance package. IOW, they've combined ZDA and ZDB but removed ACC from the combined package.

I really hate it when dealers make stuff up, which they do because a) they don't know their products, b) they need to pretend they do and c) making stuff up comes naturally to them.

Remember: a dealer wants to extract as much money as possible from you. Lying about "shortages" is in the same vicinity as, "The price is only good today". It's designed to create what salespeople call "urgency" and to part you from your money more easily.

It's much more likely that BMW is reassessing the "take-rate" (as I mentioned before) and/or tweaking MY18 X-drive models with the soon-to-go-into-production S-drive MY19s.

There are much, much better answers to a mid-model-year configuration change than a "shortage" rumor started by a dealer, to whom BMW tells little if anything about its production planning situation.

BTW, if you believe there's a shortage of ZDA and ZDB, I've got a bridge in NYC I wanna sell ya.

[tenflyer]

FXoffroad - I didn't catch the specifics but I think a component that goes into the drive assistance package is what has a supply constraint.

So just a minor change in the last 5 minutes from what I said, my build order did just go thru with these two packages for a June delivery. So looks like the impact was a few week delay. For me personally not a huge deal.

[fxoffroad]

Thanks. I'm suppose to get a VIN this week, I'll be curious to see what my dealer says about my timeline. Like you, I don't mind waiting.

I have a basic understanding of production/source lines, but a bit surprised that they'd delete the options from the online X3 build configurator, since those would seem to be popular options.

Originally Posted by tenflyer

FXoffroad - I didn't catch the specifics but I think a component that goes into the drive assistance package is what has a supply constraint.

So just a minor change in the last 5 minutes from what I said, my build order did just go thru with these two packages for a June delivery. So looks like the impact was a few week delay. For me personally not a huge deal.

[fxoffroad]

You're using the build configurator with an sDRIVE, not an xDrive.

And I'm curious to know how you know if the dealer is "full of it" or not?

Originally Posted by Yobyot

Your dealer is full of it. The revised website configuration shows that the Executive package includes Driving Assistance Plus, which includes the Driving Assistance package. IOW, they've combined ZDA and ZDB but removed ACC from the combined package.

[manish_X3i]

Originally Posted by Yobyot

Your dealer is full of it. The revised website configuration shows that the Executive package includes Driving Assistance Plus, which includes the Driving Assistance package. IOW, they've combined ZDA and ZDB but removed ACC from the combined package.

I really hate it when dealers make stuff up, which they do because a) they don't know their products, b) they need to pretend they do and c) making stuff up comes naturally to them.

Remember: a dealer wants to extract as much money as possible from you. Lying about "shortages" is in the same vicinity as, "The price is only good today". It's designed to create what salespeople call "urgency" and to part you from your money more easily.

It's much more likely that BMW is reassessing the "take-rate" (as I mentioned before) and/or tweaking MY18 X-drive models with the soon-to-go-into-production S-drive MY19s.

There are much, much better answers to a mid-model-year configuration change than a "shortage" rumor started by a dealer, to whom BMW tells little if anything about its production planning situation.

BTW, if you believe there's a shortage of ZDA and ZDB, I've got a bridge in NYC I wanna sell ya.

What if someone paid for Driving Assistance package but not purchased the Executive package in past couple weeks and ordered the car. Wondering how BMW would handle it since they changed these packages recently. Thoughts?

[tenflyer]

So I don't think they changed packages at all. Things are confusing because their website configuration is jacked up (and they admit that, I'll paste the response from their tech support below) and I do believe there was a complication with a component. Maybe this is all manipulation on BMW's part, but I don't see how they benefit from it my build today is the same as I had spec'ed online 2 weeks ago. I first noticed the online build configurator being flaky when the dynamic handling package disappeared for a few days only to come back. I'm guessing any hour now we will see ZDA and ZDB show back up.

Bottom line is the DA and DA plus are NOT part of the executive package. The attachment on the first post of this thread is still accurate.



On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 2:00 PM, <bmwgenius@bmwusa.com> wrote:
To Whom It May Concern,

Thanks for contacting the BMW Genius Team. We appreciate your inquiry.

We can confirm that the BMW X3 is able to be equipped with the Driver Assistance Package and Driver Assistance Plus Package. We apologize for the error on the website and any confusion caused.

[BMWFahrer]

Originally Posted by DW_x3m40i

Damn $10k off or almost 18% off MSRP

Best I've seen so far. Sounds like you robbed them

Great job!
Beats my 16% off MSRP deal from Feb 28.

X3 xDrive30i MSRP: $56,595
Purchase Price: $47,250 not including WI sales tax, title, WI registration
Dealer Discount $7,345
BMW Fleet Discount $2,000
Total Discount of $9,345

[Sea-Tac]

Customer Order Date: 11/25/17
Manufacturing Delivery Estimate: 8 weeks

Model Code: 18XD X3 xDrive30i $42450.00

Color: A83 Glacier Silver Metallic $550.00
Upholstery: MAH& Black Venasca w/contrast stitching

Options

7S2 Luxury Line
ZCV Convenience Package $2800.00
ZDA Driving Assistance Package $900.00
ZDB Driving Assistance Package Plus $1700.00
ZPL Luxury Package $350.00
ZPP Premium Pacjage $3300.00
4HAT Heated from and Rear Seats $350.00
ZPX Executive Package $3500.00
223 Dynamic Damper Control $1000
417 Rear Manual Side Window Shades $250.00
688 Harmon Kardon Surround System $875.00
6CP Apple Car Play $300.00
6NW Wireless Charging: 500.00

Net Total: $58875.00
Destination Charge: $995.00

Total: $59870.00

[sm32589g]

Originally Posted by Sea-Tac

Customer Order Date: 11/25/17
Manufacturing Delivery Estimate: 8 weeks

Model Code: 18XD X3 xDrive30i $42450.00

Color: A83 Glacier Silver Metallic $550.00
Upholstery: MAH& Black Venasca w/contrast stitching

Options

7S2 Luxury Line
ZCV Convenience Package $2800.00
ZDA Driving Assistance Package $900.00
ZDB Driving Assistance Package Plus $1700.00
ZPL Luxury Package $350.00
ZPP Premium Pacjage $3300.00
4HAT Heated from and Rear Seats $350.00
ZPX Executive Package $3500.00
223 Dynamic Damper Control $1000
417 Rear Manual Side Window Shades $250.00
688 Harmon Kardon Surround System $875.00
6CP Apple Car Play $300.00
6NW Wireless Charging: 500.00

Net Total: $58875.00
Destination Charge: $995.00

Total: $59870.00

What did you pay?

[Hendoo]

I'm heading towards ordering an X3 rather than buying from dealer stock to get the configuration I want.

Anybody know what kind of deal to expect?

Their flooring and insurance cost should be much less on a special-order car.

But one Salesman implied he could give me a better deal on something in stock.

Many of you have been down this path before; any thoughts about how good a deal I can get on a special order?

Thanks in advance!

Hendoo in SoCal

[KestasLT]

Here is my configuration ordered in JAN 2018 with estimated delivery date in mid/end MAY 2018 to Luxembourg.

G01 xDrive30d
416 Carbonschwarz
BWNL Cloth/leather 'Vernasca' Schwarz with contrast stitching Blau / Schwarz
22S Light alloy wheels styling 698 M 19"

Options

7LF Model M Sport
223 Adaptive suspension
ZB2 Business Pack
ZB3 Comfort Pack
ZB4 Innovation Pack
ZB7 Travel Pack
4AW Instrument panel in Sensatec
688 Harman/kardon Surround Sound System
6CP Preparation for Apple CarPlay (3 years)
6NW Convenience telephony with wireless charging
6WB Multifunctional instrument display

Total Price: 62000 Euros

[MostlyHarmless]

Originally Posted by Hendoo

I'm heading towards ordering an X3 rather than buying from dealer stock to get the configuration I want.

Anybody know what kind of deal to expect?

Their flooring and insurance cost should be much less on a special-order car.

But one Salesman implied he could give me a better deal on something in stock.

Many of you have been down this path before; any thoughts about how good a deal I can get on a special order?

Thanks in advance!

Hendoo in SoCal

Here in NorCal I found that the car I was shopping for (X3 M40i) had about a 10-12% discount if you bought it off the lot at Stevens Creek BMW in Santa Clara and they would give a 6% discount for special orders. The logic is that the vehicles already on the lot are costing them money every day, whereas the special orders are not going to cost them any money to keep in inventory since they are pre-sold. Check the websites of competing dealers in your area, find the one that offers the biggest discount on an in-stock vehicle, and use that as leverage to get the best deal you can from your preferred dealer.

[Hendoo]

Originally Posted by MostlyHarmless

Here in NorCal I found that the car I was shopping for (X3 M40i) had about a 10-12% discount if you bought it off the lot at Stevens Creek BMW in Santa Clara and they would give a 6% discount for special orders.

Great info -- thanks!

[fxoffroad]

Hendoo

Just be straight-forward. Create a build - save the link. Visit BMW dealership websites in your area/region, select a salesperson you think might like. Call that salesperson and tell them that you're sending them a build that you'd like pricing for. In the e-mail simply share the link and say that you are ready to order and are looking for their best and final price.

Your comment about "flooring and insurance" while possibly true, doesn't matter much when you simply want the best price possible. Don't dick around, be straight forward. Here in Colorado the discounts were the same percentage whether sitting on the lot or a custom build.

Originally Posted by Hendoo

I'm heading towards ordering an X3 rather than buying from dealer stock to get the configuration I want.

Anybody know what kind of deal to expect?

Their flooring and insurance cost should be much less on a special-order car.

But one Salesman implied he could give me a better deal on something in stock.

Many of you have been down this path before; any thoughts about how good a deal I can get on a special order?

Thanks in advance!

Hendoo in SoCal

[MDBimmerGuy]

Long time lurker, first time poster. After much internet research and test drives all over the place, I picked up my very first BMW today, coming from a 2013 Audi A6. Absolutely in love with and so excited about this car. Anyway, for posterity, here is my deal (got it at Passport BMW in Maryland, for what its worth, they didn’t mess around and gave me what I considered a more than good deal, so overall quite pleased with their service, but i knew they had a car in stock that fit my needs, which always helps):

2018 BMW X3 M40i
Carbon Black
Oyster interior
Premium Package
Executive Package
Drivers Assistance Package
Drivers Assistance Plus Package
M Adaptive Suspension
Harmon Kardon Surround Sound
20” w/ Summer RFTs
Apple Carplay
Wireless Charging + 4G
Total MSRP: 67,450
Dealer Discount: 8000 (including what I believe to be 2000 dealer cash from BMW)
USAA Rebate: 2000
Total Purchase Price: 57,450
300 Doc Fee, 350 Govt Fees, and Tax/Tags/Title = out the door of 61,700 or so (Got best deal without financing, so paid all cash, the price if I financed was actually 1500 higher for some reason, dealer implied incentives which didn’t make a ton of sense to me but I’ll take it)

I feel like I did really well, but most importantly got a beautiful car. They were definitely motivated to bank the sale this month (once I told them I could close the sale this weekend, the last $500 came off the purchase price), but there wasn’t too much haggling or BS involved, so I really appreciated it.

Thanks to everyone for the great info on this forum, hope this helps someone else, and so excited for my new beautiful BMW.


: happyanim:

[Aimster82]

2018 X3 M40i
MSRP $69,020

Total paid out the door $64,700

[finalfantasyfan]

Originally Posted by BMWFahrer

Great job!
Beats my 16% off MSRP deal from Feb 28.

X3 xDrive30i MSRP: $56,595
Purchase Price: $47,250 not including WI sales tax, title, WI registration
Dealer Discount $7,345
BMW Fleet Discount $2,000
Total Discount of $9,345

Great job. I also got 18% off MSRP but mine was M40i in Nov last yaer.

My X3 M40i build

C1M Phytonic Blue Metallic
K8SW Black SensaTec
22W 20" M Double-spoke wheels - style 699M Bi-Color
4K9 Aluminum Interior Trim
494 Heated front seats

MSRP $57295
Dealer Discount $7000
Loyalty and Finance incentive $3000
Final Price $47295

[des16]

Can you please share the name of the dealer?

[BMWFahrer]

Originally Posted by des16

Can you please share the name of the dealer?

My dealer: Enterprise BMW in Appleton, WI. Part of the Bergstrom Automotive Group based in Wisconsin.

[r3t1cal]

I’m so excited!!
I just got my build placed:

Customer Order Date: 5/2/2018

Delivery Date: 7/15/2018**

Model Code: 18XD X3 xDrive30i
Color: C1M Phytonic Blue Metallic
Upholstery: Cognac Vernasca Leather w/contrast stitching/piping

Options

ZDA Driving Assistance Package
ZDB Driving Assistance Plus Package
ZDH Dynamic Handling Package
ZMP M Sport Package
ZPP Premium Package
ZPX Executive Package
688 Harman Kardon surround sound system
6CP Apple CarPlay Compatibility
6NW Wireless Charging

Net Total 60,975.00
Destination Charge 995.00

Total 61,970.00

Total Discount of 11.03% -$6,833 (Dealer: -$5,333.00 & Rebates: -$1,500)

Total out the door: $55,137.00

**Due to the ZDA/ZDB supply shortage I’m suppose to get the car mid July, which works out swimmingly as my current lease ends July 23rd.

I know I've seen better deals but I’m very happy with this after shopping around between so many dealers.

So excited to join the G01 club! Thank you all for the information provided in this forum it helped me so much with negotiating.

[Hispeed4fun]

Originally Posted by r3t1cal

I’m so excited!!
I just got my build placed:

Customer Order Date: 5/2/2018

Delivery Date: 7/15/2018**

Model Code: 18XD X3 xDrive30i
Color: C1M Phytonic Blue Metallic
Upholstery: Cognac Vernasca Leather w/contrast stitching/piping

Options

ZDA Driving Assistance Package
ZDB Driving Assistance Plus Package
ZDH Dynamic Handling Package
ZMP M Sport Package
ZPP Premium Package
ZPX Executive Package
688 Harman Kardon surround sound system
6CP Apple CarPlay Compatibility
6NW Wireless Charging

Net Total 60,975.00
Destination Charge 995.00

Total 61,970.00

Total Discount of 11.03% -$6,833 (Dealer: -$5,333.00 & Rebates: -$1,500)

Total out the door: $55,137.00

**Due to the ZDA/ZDB supply shortage I’m suppose to get the car mid July, which works out swimmingly as my current lease ends July 23rd.

I know I've seen better deals but I’m very happy with this after shopping around between so many dealers.

So excited to join the G01 club! Thank you all for the information provided in this forum it helped me so much with negotiating.

Nice. What dealer did you end up going with?

[r3t1cal]

Originally Posted by Hispeed4fun

Nice. What dealer did you end up going with?

BMW of San Francisco. Shout out to Alvaro of Internet Sales. He was very transparent on everything and made the choice to give him my business a no brainier.