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      08-10-2020, 12:12 PM   #111
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Cracking car.

I would not say its any better or worse than the X3MC it just does things differently. I am very bias though as I have owned 2 F10 M5's I just like them I guess.
I agree. Thinking of getting the post-LCI M5. Test drove friend's M5C this morning. Ride is firm as hell, but that engine is a beast.
And you told ME not to crave an M5...
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      08-10-2020, 12:35 PM   #112
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And you told ME not to crave an M5...
I would suggest you dont drive one, it will be game over
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      08-10-2020, 01:27 PM   #113
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I think I tracked the problem down. It's the steering wheel. It wants to return to center immediately. Any little input of the steering wheel and it shoots back to center. I have lane assist off so it's not that. I can yank the wheel and it will hold the line for a little. But if I am just going straight flick the wheel, it bounces back to center and the car shimmies in the process. This is why everyone says they have to hold it with 2 hands to avoid the issue.

I have a feeling this is a function of the electric steering and it's really annoying for every day driving when you aren't at 100%.
Strange, I haven't noticed any issues and I frequently drive with 1 hand, and also turn with no issues with 1 hand.
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      08-10-2020, 01:37 PM   #114
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And you told ME not to crave an M5...
yes, but I will definitely keep my X3M. M5 is a strange car. It's a big old fashioned sedan, not very practical, also not especially luxurious for a 110+k car. Yet everybody wants to have one for the legendary performance.
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      08-10-2020, 01:39 PM   #115
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And you told ME not to crave an M5...
yes, but I will definitely keep my X3M. M5 is a strange car. It's a big old fashioned sedan, not very practical, also not especially luxurious for a 110+k car. Yet everybody wants to have one for the legendary performance.
My thoughts exactly. And you explained my motive perfectly👍. If I can just take delivery of the X.3 M maybe I'll forget about it. Cheers.
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My thoughts exactly. And you explained my motive perfectly👍. If I can just take delivery of the X.3 M maybe I'll forget about it. Cheers.
There will be a next generation 1000 hp full electric M5 coming in 2023. Maybe wait for that one?
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      08-10-2020, 02:05 PM   #117
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I think I tracked the problem down. It's the steering wheel. It wants to return to center immediately. Any little input of the steering wheel and it shoots back to center. I have lane assist off so it's not that. I can yank the wheel and it will hold the line for a little. But if I am just going straight flick the wheel, it bounces back to center and the car shimmies in the process. This is why everyone says they have to hold it with 2 hands to avoid the issue.

I have a feeling this is a function of the electric steering and it's really annoying for every day driving when you aren't at 100%.
Strange, I haven't noticed any issues and I frequently drive with 1 hand, and also turn with no issues with 1 hand.
I don't either, but I've got a noncomp. So that could perhaps be a difference. Could also be an issue with ps tuning or in relation to build date.
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yes, but I will definitely keep my X3M. M5 is a strange car. It's a big old fashioned sedan, not very practical, also not especially luxurious for a 110+k car. Yet everybody wants to have one for the legendary performance.
I've had one an F10 M5 back in 2014, great car loads of power/torque and a wonderful interior, however out of the 6 M cars I've I never went out for a drive in it just for the hell of it.

I fitted ACS springs and exhaust to it to try and up the excitement but it was just an autobahn stormer (which it was perfect for and the best car to do that in IMHO) I did 30,000 miles in it over 12 months but it never made me want to drive it just for the hell of it..

Yet I found myself blasting around the countryside in my X3M over the weekend exactly for the hell of it...
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Main gripe is the small fuel tank, which reduces long distance range. Fast driving in Germany leaves 400-450 on a tank, should have been at least 80 litres.

Also find low rpm torque somewhat lacking, as under 2000 rpm very little happens
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Main gripe is the small fuel tank, which reduces long distance range. Fast driving in Germany leaves 400-450 on a tank, should have been at least 80 litres.

Also find low rpm torque somewhat lacking, as under 2000 rpm very little happens
We need a bigger aftermarket fuel tank.
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Main gripe is the small fuel tank, which reduces long distance range. Fast driving in Germany leaves 400-450 on a tank, should have been at least 80 litres.

Also find low rpm torque somewhat lacking, as under 2000 rpm very little happens
We need a bigger aftermarket fuel tank.
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      08-18-2020, 02:04 AM   #122
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I knew I shouldn't have gone for the sunroof, since today it won't close anymore

tried to reset it by pushing up the sunroof button for about a minute but all it did is leave my roof in a crooked position as only the left side moved
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We need a bigger aftermarket fuel tank.
Don’t know if this was tongue in cheek, but I would happily pay for a larger tank if someone/aftermarket would make it available. It makes no sense to have the same size fuel tank as an X3 20D. 80 litres on a 500 bhp SUV would be nice, if maybe not realistic
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      08-18-2020, 09:06 AM   #124
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I get about 225-250 mile range before I need to fill up. That's pretty lame.
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      08-18-2020, 11:22 AM   #125
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I am loving mine!
I miss my F80 but the F98 is much easier to daily drive!
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As others have said:

1. Ride is stiff. I have spilled many coffees from unanticipated bumps. I thought the whole concept behind M was the best of both worlds. Comfort when you want it and insane sport at the push of a few buttons.

2. Poor range.

3. Lack of low end torque. Seems to me BMW can fix this...

Overall still the best car in its segment.
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I get about 225-250 mile range before I need to fill up. That's pretty lame.
Unfortunately that's what a 2 tonne 500hp SUV will give you, the tank could do with being bigger I agree but the MPG is always going to suck.

I average 20mpg (UK gallons) or about 17MPG US.
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I knew I shouldn't have gone for the sunroof, since today it won't close anymore

tried to reset it by pushing up the sunroof button for about a minute but all it did is leave my roof in a crooked position as only the left side moved
inmidoutsole - sorry to learn of your troubles - please provide an update when fixed. We've never opened my wife's and I don't have one so can't offer any suggestions. When they release the X3MCS which will only come with a CFRP aero roof then it won't be a problem for us.
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I knew I shouldn't have gone for the sunroof, since today it won't close anymore

tried to reset it by pushing up the sunroof button for about a minute but all it did is leave my roof in a crooked position as only the left side moved
inmidoutsole - sorry to learn of your troubles - please provide an update when fixed. We've never opened my wife's and I don't have one so can't offer any suggestions. When they release the X3MCS which will only come with a CFRP aero roof then it won't be a problem for us.
I think that's only planned for the X3MCSL
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      08-18-2020, 04:45 PM   #130
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No regrets but I don't know if I would do it again.

The car itself is great. I love the size and performance but I think the fit and finish, especially for an $80k vehicle, is an embarrassment. It's easy to blame Spartanburg but this think lower models like the X3 have less stringent QA because I had no fit and finish issues with my X5 from the same factory
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inmidoutsole - sorry to learn of your troubles - please provide an update when fixed. We've never opened my wife's and I don't have one so can't offer any suggestions. When they release the X3MCS which will only come with a CFRP aero roof then it won't be a problem for us.
CFRP would've been great as an option!

will do. brought it to the dealership today for that and some other minor cosmetic issues. hopefully they don't take too long
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I'm taking my X3MC in tomorrow for a error message I received - something about rear axle differential. That's been my first issue with the car. Hope that's an easy fix & a non-recurring issue. Also underwhelmed by the range between refills. I've got a short commute, so I don't have to fuel up weekly, but I'd like to see more miles between refills.
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