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      02-05-2019, 08:20 AM   #23
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I think both X3M and X4M will sell exceptionally well. These cars offer practically everything in a true M trim.

My future BMW shopping list just got more complicated.
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The only thing I can tell from the grainy blurry cell phone video that appears to be slightly different is the wheels/rims. They look more classic M, which is a great thing! I hope that's the case.
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So is anyone else comparing the f pace svr to these?

To me the f pace looks amazing (although i would have preferred black trim to the dark gray they used on outside). My concern is their infotainment which does matter a lot these days. The engine is just pure awesome, V8 550hp and I bet loaded it will be close in price to X3M.
I am very interested in the F-Pace SVR as well but it's going to be a lot more money starting at $79,990.

I think I could get past the infotainment but reliability would be the key issue for me.
It's pretty loaded at $80k.

Pretty much maxed out its $88k

I think X3M with Comp (500hp?) will be mid $80s as well. Hopefully they don't hit $90k


I have always thought the spread was about $15,000 from a loaded 3 series (like M340i) to the M3. Now that may be blurred a bit with the new M versions because they have more power and M features than before. Loaded X3 M40i is $67,000 (without m sport diff). So I would think X3M with similar options would be $82,000. Add Comp package and maybe around $86,000
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It's pretty loaded at $80k.

Pretty much maxed out its $88k

I think X3M with Comp (500hp?) will be mid $80s as well. Hopefully they don't hit $90k


I have always thought the spread was about $15,000 from a loaded 3 series (like M340i) to the M3. Now that may be blurred a bit with the new M versions because they have more power and M features than before. Loaded X3 M40i is $67,000 (without m sport diff). So I would think X3M with similar options would be $82,000. Add Comp package and maybe around $86,000
I have my SVR build hovering around $91K. Granted it's well loaded but I consider the luxury pack and driver pack a must have. The optional wheel packages are also better IMO. I agree with your X3M price estimates.

Estimated price tag from another thread using the M340i as a marker vs the X3 M40i.

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showt...4#post24262854

Base prices for comparison in US dollars: Estimated prices are my opinion.

G01/F97
X3 30i - $43,000
X3 M40i - $54,650 / $67,650 equipped
X3M - @$66,650 / $79,650 equipped
X3M ZCP - @$71,650 / $84,650 equipped

G20/F80
330i - $42,250
M340i - $56,995 / $69,995 equipped
M3 - @$67,995 / $79,995 equipped
M3 ZCP - @$72,995 / $85,995 equipped
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I'm looking forward for this...but not because of the car itself but more so I know what it sounds like and what the next M3/4 might sound like! Fingers crossed its good this time.
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So is anyone else comparing the f pace svr to these?

To me the f pace looks amazing (although i would have preferred black trim to the dark gray they used on outside). My concern is their infotainment which does matter a lot these days. The engine is just pure awesome, V8 550hp and I bet loaded it will be close in price to X3M.
Velar was announced today as getting the SVR treatment with the same V8......
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I'm looking forward for this...but not because of the car itself but more so I know what it sounds like and what the next M3/4 might sound like! Fingers crossed its good this time.
IMHO, for I6 twin-turbos for M cars, BMW concerns would be, HP, emission, longevity then sound.
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IMHO, for I6 twin-turbos for M cars, BMW concerns would be, HP, emission, longevity then sound.
Yes quite possibly right. Just clutching at straws and hoping the new engine sounds better. I believe there was quite the uproar with the S55 so thought maybe they had done something about it.
Hard to tell so far though!

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I have my SVR build hovering around $91K. Granted it's well loaded but I consider the luxury pack and driver pack a must have. The optional wheel packages are also better IMO. I agree with your X3M price estimates.

Estimated price tag from another thread using the M340i as a marker vs the X3 M40i.

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showt...4#post24262854

Base prices for comparison in US dollars: Estimated prices are my opinion.

G01/F97
X3 30i - $43,000
X3 M40i - $54,650 / $67,650 equipped
X3M - @$66,650 / $79,650 equipped
X3M ZCP - @$71,650 / $84,650 equipped

G20/F80
330i - $42,250
M340i - $56,995 / $69,995 equipped
M3 - @$67,995 / $79,995 equipped
M3 ZCP - @$72,995 / $85,995 equipped
I think your pricing structure is probably fairly accurate. I drove the wife's SQ5 into work today instead of my M3 and was reminded how a nice SUV is much easier and more comfortable to drive than my M3. I'm planning on a new M in 2021 but makes me tempted to go the SUV route with an X3M and put her in something like a M240i (which she loves). Since non ZCP X3M and M3s will probably be the same price and both offer M xDrive, I suppose it comes down to the direction I want to go and what I will use the car for the most. I do not do HPDEs anymore but I do ski and mountain bike regularly. Hmm this will become difficult.
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This tease thing is slowly becoming a Toyota Supra marketing.
Taking too long and losing interest already.
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Velar was announced today as getting the SVR treatment with the same V8......
This has been in the works for quite some time. Another competitor in the mix for sure since TATA Motors will produce both versions.

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I'm looking forward to this.

I wouldn't mind replacing my F80 for this as a daily...
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Velar was announced today as getting the SVR treatment with the same V8......
only problem is Velar weighs 500 lbs more (2160kg, 4762 lbs)

So in England its $86,120
by comparison the R Dynamic SE with the P300 engine is $56,600
In the US the same model is $58,700
using that simple calculation the SVAutobiography will be about $89,315 ($9,000 more than the F Pace SVR)
comes standard with more than the F Pace though, pretty loaded its $90,000 UK, ($1200 more gets you a 1600 watt stereo system), so that would be $93,300 in the US meaning its price is really close to the F Pace if that is correct, gotta say the two tone red/black interior option looks pretty awesome (when is BMW going to offer this in the M versions, seems like its always an end of production option only).

limited edition and only made for 1 year?

From Car and Driver
"The Velar SVAutobiography Dynamic Edition will only be available for one model year—and in limited numbers—and pricing has yet to be announced. We expect the SVA to land somewhere between the $80,985 Jaguar F-Pace SVR and the $114,595 Range Rover Sport SVR; with the Velar P380 R-Dynamic HSE already starting at $75,025, we bet the Velar SVA will be on the higher end of that spectrum. A Land Rover spokesperson told C/D that there are no plans for a super-sporty SVR version of the Velar, so if you want your Velar with V-8 power, get your order in now."

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The only thing I can tell from the grainy blurry cell phone video that appears to be slightly different is the wheels/rims. They look more classic M, which is a great thing! I hope that's the case.
up to now that was the rims which were spotted everytime...
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l really hope they'll offer some nice silver wheels as well. Black wheels never make a car better looking IMHO (I know there are many fans here though, but I hate the look).
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l really hope they'll offer some nice silver wheels as well. Black wheels never make a car better looking IMHO (I know there are many fans here though, but I hate the look).
aren't complete black rims used on 1st edition models only? as we saw it on the M5 F90 and the Z4?
Black rims are used on prototypes as well, but have you looked more carefully at the shapes of the rims? Look on this zoom, those shapes would have no sense if the rims have only of one colour. The rims of the M5 and it's apparents shapes, may give us the idea that it will get a 2 colours rims as well.
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That's quite possible. Although I hope they'll offer full silver wheels. Those designs with only the outside parts in silver and inner parts in black make the wheels look "flat" and 2-dimensional.
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Velar was announced today as getting the SVR treatment with the same V8......
This has been in the works for quite some time. Another competitor in the mix for sure since TATA Motors will produce both versions.
Don't follow Velar news as it's by far one of the ugliest vehicles in their lineup. Looks great on TV but every time I see it in real life I want to
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IMHO, for I6 twin-turbos for M cars, BMW concerns would be, HP, emission, longevity then sound.
Yes quite possibly right. Just clutching at straws and hoping the new engine sounds better. I believe there was quite the uproar with the S55 so thought maybe they had done something about it.
Hard to tell so far though!

I'm sorry but no, this is a proper BMW M product that is on par with a Porsche Macan turbo for price and performance, it needs to sound better and not just with a farty popping exhaust.. BMW isn't Toyota..oh wait...
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Won’t be long until we have all the details. I’ll wait until later in the year or next year before I start seriously looking at this car, as BMW will be offering deals by then.
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l really hope they'll offer some nice silver wheels as well. Black wheels never make a car better looking IMHO (I know there are many fans here though, but I hate the look).
I personally do NOT like the extremely hard to clean metallic silver painted with soft clear-coat rims, they look cheap. And what BMW is doing now regarding the black wheels that are using is a shiny Glossy finish which looks absolutely super cheap, like someone just took a can of spray paint to them. They have to be Black Satin Powder Coated. For me I like my wheels Black, but in silver they need to be polished. A nice dark Gunmetal works.
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