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      Yesterday, 12:52 PM   #243
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I think it's a legitimate complaint. I would take the Explorer over the Charger or Crown Victoria any day. I also didn't quite understand the business case for moving to the Charger when we hadn't even been equipped with the Explorer for that long. Some stations are still phasing out the Crown Vic's. My current department has very few Chargers relative to my previous department; most are used for unmarked duty or are driven by brass. My previous department has a bunch of Chargers used for daily patrol. Getting in and out of that Charger is a pain in the ass, and the aforementioned visibility blows. I would have to talk to the fleet guys to really get a handle on the Charger's mechanical durability. I know we beat the crap out of the Ford products, and they keep going and going; I wish the Vic's would stop. Lol!

My best friend and my brother are both in Chargers. My brother loves it....but really hasn't had anything else to compare it with. Plus he's a Dodge guy.

My best friend however hates it as he's a big guy. But he's getting ready to go into K9, so he's as excited about a different vehicle as he is doing something different in the department!
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      Yesterday, 04:19 PM   #244
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I think it's a legitimate complaint. I would take the Explorer over the Charger or Crown Victoria any day. I also didn't quite understand the business case for moving to the Charger when we hadn't even been equipped with the Explorer for that long. Some stations are still phasing out the Crown Vic's. My current department has very few Chargers relative to my previous department; most are used for unmarked duty or are driven by brass. My previous department has a bunch of Chargers used for daily patrol. Getting in and out of that Charger is a pain in the ass, and the aforementioned visibility blows. I would have to talk to the fleet guys to really get a handle on the Charger's mechanical durability. I know we beat the crap out of the Ford products, and they keep going and going; I wish the Vic's would stop. Lol!

My best friend and my brother are both in Chargers. My brother loves it....but really hasn't had anything else to compare it with. Plus he's a Dodge guy.

My best friend however hates it as he's a big guy. But he's getting ready to go into K9, so he's as excited about a different vehicle as he is doing something different in the department!
That makes sense. Physical size also makes a difference when discussing ingress/egress. The bigger you are, the more you'll dislike the Charger; I'm not a super big guy at 5'10 and 188 lbs. The more gear you carry on your person, the more you appreciate space.

Side note: we recently were authorized to wear the redesigned BDU-style uniforms (...cargo pants and a new lightweight, breathable shirt) that are commmmfffyyyyyyy! Couple the new uniform with a nylon duty belt/components, and patrol is so much more comfortable.
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We still have half our fleet as Crown Vic, if u need a few. None of them have a mobile in them any more

I'm glad they picked some Explorers so I can still use the same keys I've had for 15 years
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When they rolled up I was under the car and based on the conversation I thought it was my friends neighbor stopping by.

My friend goes hey Phil come and meet them. I get out from under the car and it's two cops LOL. Then we just spoke about our cars and his cars and our mods.

Should we all go for a canyon cruise once?
I'm totally down...........but not Angeles Crest. My CHP buddies love to issue citations there.
Yeah but we'd be with you!! Lol
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We still have half our fleet as Crown Vic, if u need a few. None of them have a mobile in them any more

I'm glad they picked some Explorers so I can still use the same keys I've had for 15 years
It's funny how the keys open every car in the fleet.

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When they rolled up I was under the car and based on the conversation I thought it was my friends neighbor stopping by.

My friend goes hey Phil come and meet them. I get out from under the car and it's two cops LOL. Then we just spoke about our cars and his cars and our mods.

Should we all go for a canyon cruise once?
I'm totally down...........but not Angeles Crest. My CHP buddies love to issue citations there.
Yeah but we'd be with you!! Lol
That's a good point!
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Does windshield tint alert you more than just side windows? More reason to pull that person over? Seems it throws officers off more in my area as I've been pulled a few times
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Here's one, and I apologize if it's been covered earlier.

If you're setup checking cars' speeds with radar and/or laser and one of the cars hits their brakes, whether or not you got an excess speed reading on them, are the brake lights an admission of guilt?
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Does windshield tint alert you more than just side windows? More reason to pull that person over? Seems it throws officers off more in my area as I've been pulled a few times
Tinted windows are common, so it doesn't alert us more in the sense that there's some obvious reaction to a car with tinted windows. What does occur is subconscious; if I can't see into the car I naturally become more cautious. A car with an obvious infraction just makes it easier to develop reasonable suspicion to effect a traffic stop.


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Here's one, and I apologize if it's been covered earlier.

If you're setup checking cars' speeds with radar and/or laser and one of the cars hits their brakes, whether or not you got an excess speed reading on them, are the brake lights an admission of guilt?
No. Also keep in mind that we've already clocked you long before you actually see us, so braking really is immaterial, and we can't see the brake lights anyway.
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