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X3 M40i/X4 M40i will compete with Macan GTS, Audi SQ5, MB AMG43 and FPace S. Current X4 M40i does very well in this field. X3M/X4M will compete with Macan T/PP/S, Audi RSQ5, MB AMG63/S and AR Stelvio QV. The Ms are a few years away and should be close to 500hp.
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mkoesel the m235i and the m240i are different. the m235i had 320 hp and m240i has 335 hp. m235i has the same engine as the x4 (n55) but the x4 had 355 hp. so with that in mind im assuming they'll add the extra 15 hp that they gave the m240i with the B58. so the x4 m40 should have 380hp.
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"the m235 used the same engine and didn't get 355hp cause its a car and lighter." The reason the M235i did not get 355hp was because they knew they intended to (or at the very least, they had strong desire to and were relatively sure they would) release an M2 with around that much power (from that very engine) that would be on the market at the same time as the M235i's planned successor, the M240i. The weight of the car had nothing to do with it. They just wanted to save the higher output version of the engine to use as a selling point for the flagship of the lineup. With the X4, there was no such conflict. They knew the M40i would sit at the top of the lineup for the model's duration, and they also knew (or, again, had a high degree of confidence) that the next generation model would feature a proper M model with well over 400hp - a clear increase from the former flagship M Performance model. Not to mention, high output engine was already being developed for the M2, so it was going to be there ready and available for use. In other words, by my analysis, there is nothing about how the N55 is or was rated in other models - M Performance or otherwise, 2 Series or otherwise - that can be used to reliably predict what the power output of the B58 will be in the upcoming X4 M40i. Quote:
Furthermore, as I said above and in a previous post, with the X4 M taking over the top spot, the M40i model no longer needs to carry the burden of making as much power as possible. Instead, it can slot in much as today's 340i/440i does when compared to the M3/M4, and indeed as tomorrow's generation of those vehicles will as well. |
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I don't think that BMW absolutely needs to be at the ~350hp level (and certainly not the ~370hp+ level) to successfully compete. Quote:
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We now get a first look at the new look X4 from eye level.
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Looks promising, usually first generation is not matured enough, as this shows, second generation looks like BMW intended. A lot of F25 in Norway, not so with the F26.
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Next month (June) is the arrival of the all new BMW X3. But the promos start very soon.
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I was gonna say that also
Too bad it doesn't have gullwing doors tho
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I can't understand why BMW continues making such useless and ugly vehicles... I know some people want to stand out of the crowd but, in these??? They definitely should take inspiration from Land Rover to make SUV's look right...
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I'm not really an SUV guy, but sat in an X4 M40i and it felt very cozy, yet had back seats and a rear hatch. It sounded very nice and seems like it would be almost as fast as my 135is.
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Although i think the rear of this car looks promising..the front looks like a taller 5GT..completely destroyed the model already, even if the rear turns out great.
The idea for the X4 is to be stylish..its beyond me why BMW cant get it right. The Velar looks miles ahead of this thing. |
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