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      05-08-2020, 03:31 PM   #23
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From what I read, they are taking that crazy new I-4 M139 engine from CLA 45s (416 hp) and topping it up with a smaller electric engine. So the total power output should be similar to the current 63/63s.
Yuck. Maybe they'll put a speaker on the rear of the car and pump out v8 sounds too.
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      05-09-2020, 09:44 AM   #24
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There will be a brand new GLC63 next year, with a four cylinder hybrid engine. I’m still shocked MB is doing this. Not even an i6, directly downsizing to four cylinder.
While not directly comparable, MB has done well with its four-cylinder AMG motors. My wife's CLA45 has a four-cylinder turbo that is underrated at 375hp. The car is really quick with no discernable lag and better sound than one would expect from a four cylinder. Still, losing the V8 feel and sound would be a major loss for the GLC63, but that's the way of the world.
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      05-09-2020, 10:01 AM   #25
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Financially If you compare a fully loaded 2020 X3MC $84,395 to a comparably loaded 2020 Glc 63 amg suv $90,265 the benz is significantly more. Even if you get 10% off msrp on both vehicles the incentives on the X3MC over 6k make it much more compelling plus the 3 free years of maintenance. With 10% off msrp and incentives the x3mc is about 11k cheaper.
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Financially If you compare a fully loaded 2020 X3MC $84,395 to a comparably loaded 2020 Glc 63 amg suv $90,265 the benz is significantly more. Even if you get 10% off msrp on both vehicles the incentives on the X3MC over 6k make it much more compelling plus the 3 free years of maintenance. With 10% off msrp and incentives the x3mc is about 11k cheaper.
From my own experience, you won’t get 10% off msrp on the GLC63s. In my case there was almost a 20k gap between the comparably equipped GLC63s and the X3MC that I ended up buying. My only motivation to look at the GLC was the awesome V8 engine.
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Financially If you compare a fully loaded 2020 X3MC $84,395 to a comparably loaded 2020 Glc 63 amg suv $90,265 the benz is significantly more. Even if you get 10% off msrp on both vehicles the incentives on the X3MC over 6k make it much more compelling plus the 3 free years of maintenance. With 10% off msrp and incentives the x3mc is about 11k cheaper.
From my own experience, you won’t get 10% off msrp on the GLC63s. In my case there was almost a 20k gap between the comparably equipped GLC63s and the X3MC that I ended up buying. My only motivation to look at the GLC was the awesome V8 engine.
There's only 200 nationwide, therefore Mercedes won't discount much. Their know for using the lack of demand as a sales strategy to create "exclusivity."
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      05-09-2020, 03:08 PM   #28
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Personally MB's V8 engines are the most compelling part of owning a Benz and the only reason I would own one. Their non-V8 models are pretty meh. As a person that's owned EVO's, STI's, Golf R's I'm kind of over turbo 4-cylinder engines as there really is no replacement for displacement although I do like the AMG A45.

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      05-09-2020, 03:22 PM   #29
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I had a heart attack in November (At 46), and I didn't want to leave the wife with all these enormous payments in case something happened (They lease like crap compared to the X4M).
Wow. Take care of yourself, bud.

But yeah, I'd have went with AMG too except they only have the coupe here, and they do not incentivize their leases.
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      05-09-2020, 05:06 PM   #30
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Wow. Take care of yourself, bud.

But yeah, I'd have went with AMG too except they only have the coupe here, and they do not incentivize their leases.
Thanks Brother, I appreciate it. I'm still dealing with the aftermath on a daily basis, the medication seems like it's causing more problems than anything. Gotta love big pharma!
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We have both. 2019 GLC 63 AMG (non S) and 2020 X3M Competition. Thus far the GLC has been in the shop more than 45 days. Check engine light keeps coming on....service centers says misfires in 2 cylinders...they couldn't figure out what is going on. They are now going to change a couple of the fuel injectors but this is looking like a buyback at this point. After considerable research the handmade V8 has had this issue across the board. I know the S engine is a tune to the 63AMG Engine so not sure what others are seeing thus far.

In contrast; the X3MC has had zero issues.

The GLC 63 is indeed a beast and the sound is amazing (who doesn't love that V8 roar and super torque?) the 2019 doesn't have CarPlay for those who are wondering. Not sure what second we will consider when this buyback has been completed. Just my 2 cents and experience with both. We use them as daily drivers btw.

Had the same exact issues with my 2017 GLS 63AMG!!! Had 3 FI replaced!. It lived in the shop! Multiple suspension components replaced as well so get ready for that. My brakes were $2400 all the way around with a life expectancy of 7-9K miles. Told my SA that basically, I have to change my brakes more than I got my oil changed! Money pit.

On the other hand, the sound was absolutely amazing and I loved how my rear windows would tilt open.
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We have both. 2019 GLC 63 AMG (non S) and 2020 X3M Competition. Thus far the GLC has been in the shop more than 45 days. Check engine light keeps coming on....service centers says misfires in 2 cylinders...they couldn't figure out what is going on. They are now going to change a couple of the fuel injectors but this is looking like a buyback at this point. After considerable research the handmade V8 has had this issue across the board. I know the S engine is a tune to the 63AMG Engine so not sure what others are seeing thus far.

In contrast; the X3MC has had zero issues.

The GLC 63 is indeed a beast and the sound is amazing (who doesn't love that V8 roar and super torque?) the 2019 doesn't have CarPlay for those who are wondering. Not sure what second we will consider when this buyback has been completed. Just my 2 cents and experience with both. We use them as daily drivers btw.

Had the same exact issues with my 2017 GLS 63AMG!!! Had 3 FI replaced!. It lived in the shop! Multiple suspension components replaced as well so get ready for that. My brakes were $2400 all the way around with a life expectancy of 7-9K miles. Told my SA that basically, I have to change my brakes more than I got my oil changed! Money pit.

On the other hand, the sound was absolutely amazing and I loved how my rear windows would tilt open.
Ours was repurchased by MBZ...we got another 2020 X3MC, only a different color combo this time...
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What's the point of even considering a Glc 63 amg if they really downgrade the engine to a 4 cylinder? The only plus the 2020 Glc 63 amg has over the 2020 X3MC is the biturbo v8 engine and sound.
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I drove the GLC63S Coupe and loved the ride and sound. IMO MB fit and finish is more refined compared to the BMW counterpart but I find the dash of every MB ugly. If they made a S version of the SUV, I would've bought that instead of the X3MC but the Coupe versions of MB and BMW useless for my needs.
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Personally MB's V8 engines are the most compelling part of owning a Benz and the only reason I would own one. Their non-V8 models are pretty meh. As a person that's owned EVO's, STI's, Golf R's I'm kind of over turbo 4-cylinder engines as there really is no replacement for displacement although I do like the AMG A45.
The only replacement for displacement is electrons. I bet they make it a stupid fast hybrid.
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I bet they make it a stupid fast hybrid.
Wouldn’t it make sense to go for a stupid fast EV at this point? I think I’m ready for my first EV. That i4 concept looks really cool.
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I drove the GLC63S Coupe and loved the ride and sound. IMO MB fit and finish is more refined compared to the BMW counterpart but I find the dash of every MB ugly. If they made a S version of the SUV, I would've bought that instead of the X3MC but the Coupe versions of MB and BMW useless for my needs.
This! I cant believe they only brought the S coupe to the US. BMW did it right in allowing the consumer to choose. I refuse to pay extra for less utility
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I bet they make it a stupid fast hybrid.
Wouldn’t it make sense to go for a stupid fast EV at this point? I think I’m ready for my first EV. That i4 concept looks really cool.
It depends on if the pure electric vehicle makes sense for you. Range, charging, driving emotion are all things to factor in. I'm not convinced for me yet but by next gen or when BMW i becomes real, I might be.
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It depends on if the pure electric vehicle makes sense for you. Range, charging, driving emotion are all things to factor in. I'm not convinced for me yet but by next gen or when BMW i becomes real, I might be.
You and I are in the same camp. Took a wild ride with a buddy recently in his Model S with ludicrous plus. Electric is certainly promising, but it ain't there yet for my needs. It probably will be my power plant of choice by the time I've driven the wheels off this F97....
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