[Gonven]

Originally Posted by MarcelM1

Agreed. But then again, BMW has already come late to the party concerning this type of stuff. I don't expect them to be industry leading in that regard anytime soon. But I do think iDrive is the best.

^ This

Why so much time to launch X3M / X4M hm.

[Max Well]

Thanks for sharing, Jason, and kudos to the graphic design team who produced the earlier renderings.

Hope our Competition will have a CFRP aero roof, weight at or below our G01 M40i, and 500HP+. I apologize for the rudimentary attempt at conceptualizing an aero roof on this image, but the weight savings, CG-lowering effects, and potential aerodynamic advantages (must have as used on the M5) are begging for one. Could the designers show us an image of a CF roof on the Donington Grey? https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showt...g=1849&slide=0

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by Max Well

Hope our Competition will have a CFRP aero roof, weight at or below our G01 M40i, and 500HP+. I apologize for the rudimentary attempt at conceptualizing an aero roof on this image, but the weight savings, CG-lowering effects, and potential aerodynamic advantages (must have as used on the M5) are begging for one. Could the designers show us an image of a CF roof on the Donington Grey?

CF aero roof is not happening. The X3M/X4M was developed by the same engineer responsible for the 1st two X5M/X6M generations- aerodynamics share the same improvement as the current G01, which is the rear of the car.

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by Gonven

Why so much time to launch X3M / X4M hm.

Not to cannibalize X4 M40 sales. There was an internal argument between BMW AG and BMW M regarding the B58 engine to be finalized, so M division could engineer the S58. Was told this directly from a M engineer responsible for the X3M/X4M.

[Max Well]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

CF aero roof is not happening. The X3M/X4M was developed by the same engineer responsible for the 1st two X5M/X6M generations- aerodynamics share the same improvement as the current G01, which is the rear of the car.

Seems like a missed opportunity for those with moonroof deletions, but without an Aerodynamics background unsure how it might actually influence Cd x A. Not as simple as thinking ‘if it helps the F90, why wouldn’t it help the larger and taller F97’, I know, but appeared a plausible extension of the concept. Any idea if we can expect at least a basic CF roof in the Competition model?

[SANK_CH]

Originally Posted by darksilkx1

I'm pretty sure thats idrive 7 you're looking at. At least it looks like what I have in my 2019 X5.

sorry I made a mistake and I was referring to the clusters. those are the "old" one as seen in the actual M5, compared to the new live cockpit professional that are found on the Z4, X5, 8 serie, and 7 LCI. it was supposed that MY2020 X3 & X4 was getting it in July '19. Next Gen M3/M4 spotted by CarMagazine UK showed that the mule was having the new live cockpit professional.

[SANK_CH]

Originally Posted by DCG

Pretty close.

I do NOT like the tacky techy Rims at all.

BMW M Division really need to put on wider rear Wheels and some fender flares. And a more aggressive hood.

I still think the closed kidney grill aerodynamic plastic thing is a retarded concept.

if you travel back in the past, you will notice that those rims refer to the X4 concept showed around the world, before the X4 F26 came to life.

[ando]

Originally Posted by Max Well

Seems like a missed opportunity for those with moonroof deletions, but without an Aerodynamics background unsure how it might actually influence Cd x A. Not as simple as thinking 'if it helps the F90, why wouldn't it help the larger and taller F97', I know, but appeared a plausible extension of the concept. Any idea if we can expect at least a basic CF roof in the Competition model?

I don't understand why we can't expect the engineers to put a CFRP roof on the X3 M. My M3 has it. I know the M2 does not but they make it available as a VPC or dealer option. We can't settle.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by MPoweRo

Good to see tachometer rotating the "correct" way on the new M models.

Was going to say the same thing - I hate the other digital design with the tach going the wrong way.

[drexplode]

Can't wait to see the m seats! I'm sure they are more comfortable than the m40i seats.

[advantage20]

Originally Posted by MPoweRo

Good to see tachometer rotating the "correct" way on the new M models.

That's because all these models you are referring to (M5, M2C, X3M...) are M versions of older models which didn't get BMW's virtual Live Cockpit to begin with, so the standard version as well as the M version have the traditional instrument cluster with the tachometer rotating the 'correct' way.

Conversely, the fresher models (8er, X5, X7, 3er...) have been getting the Live Cockpit but they yet have to spawn their M versions, which you can be sure will also have a tachometer going the 'wrong' way

[jamesblond1001]

Yes, it will be hard to compete with the aggressive Mercedes GLC 63... but lets wait for the final result

[MParallel]

At least this digital dash has a proper rev counter that rotates like it should.

That other one is just a big fail for symmetry.

[Jvalde1024]

Can't wait to see the actual finished product

[ice31]

Not very impressive, tbh I expected more. I don't know why tho lol. Hope they'll make the interior stand out more

[Mako]

Originally Posted by jamesblond1001

Yes, it will be hard to compete with the aggressive Mercedes GLC 63... but lets wait for the final result

I think the Jaguar F Pace SVR is the one that will be tough to contend with. Looks super aggressive and has a 550hp V8

[ando]

Originally Posted by ice31

Not very impressive, tbh I expected more. I don't know why tho lol. Hope they'll make the interior stand out more

Yes. Thinking M seats, steering wheel and gear selector from M5 and leather dash.

[SANK_CH]

Originally Posted by Mako

I think the Jaguar F Pace SVR is the one that will be tough to contend with. Looks super aggressive and has a 550hp V8

yes the car that has the most power on that category. but it is also not the quickest. The Alfa Stelvio with 40 HP less, is 0.7 sec quicker on 0 to 100 km/h, the GLC 63 with more than 70 hp less is 0.5 sec quicker and the 63 S with 40 hp less is also 0.7 sec quicker.

Originally Posted by jamesblond1001

Yes, it will be hard to compete with the aggressive Mercedes GLC 63... but lets wait for the final result

Probably we may have some hopes. I remember that on the F26 X4, when the M40i came on the market, it was only 54hp more than the regular 35i and they achieved to be quicker of 0.6sec on 0 to 100km/h. Today M40i (EU Spec) has 354hp still makes 4.9sec 0 to 100km/h, the X4M is excepted to be 474hp & 650nm around 120hp and 150 Nm more. So they are hopes that the X3M and X4M will already play in the 3.8/4.0s zone and the competition ones in a quicker zone. That will confirm the speech of the CEO of BMW M last year = Setting a new Benchmark in this segment.

[PARTS@STBMW]

I'm already in love with the X3 M40i, can only imagine what this beast is going to be.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by xcusem3

Ahh this truly is sad! I've been holding out on this thing for a while now and I am thoroughly under impressed with this, but I suppose seeing the last 5 years of BMW design, I should have expected to be disappointed...

Looks like I'm finally making that long awaited trip to the Porsche dealer for a Macan Turbo!

Originally Posted by Tonyfsu21

Why don't you wait for the final product before running to Porsche?

Because every one knows it's more fun to declare in a forum that you are giving up on BMW to get a Porsche... than to actually do so.... $$$$$$$

[GuyOh]

could somebody please photoshop the rims black pretty please?

[kozzi]

Originally Posted by GuyOh

could somebody please photoshop the rims black pretty please?

Check out this thread:

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1548980