the change of seat manufacturer

teaston · 10-18-2018, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by arciga18

I had a nov '18 production g01.
Seats where fine.

Traded her in for an x4 last week. This new seats suck. Dead serious I can't get comfortable.

Will continue to tweak the seat

How could you have a nov ‘18, that’s next month!?

bmtespar · 10-18-2018, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

How could you have a nov ‘18, that’s next month!?

I think they meant it’s a 18 model built in Nov of 17.

arciga18 · 10-18-2018, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bmtespar

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Originally Posted by teaston

How could you have a nov ‘18, that’s next month!?

I think they meant it’s a 18 model built in Nov of 17.

Yea exactly .

Apologies since that could have been more clear.

teaston · 10-18-2018, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by arciga18

Yea exactly .

Apologies since that could have been more clear.

Ah you meant it’s a Nov MY18!

Viper450 · 10-19-2018, 04:21 PM

Yes I have the same issue on my 18. The right bolster literally feels like it sticking out much more than the left and I keep trying to shift left, very annoying and not sure what to do yet but it's definitely uncomfortable.

XXX3 · 10-19-2018, 05:52 PM

My seats are ok for a short trip (<2hr), and get uncomfortable on the bottom beyond 2 hr. Currently carrying a back packing seat pad for longer trips. Another thing that I’ve noticed: as I switch between my wife’s car (2018 Acura RDX) and my 2018 X3 M40i, is that I feel a bit off centered (to the right) as I get behind the wheel of my X3? Anyone else notice that? Really feels awkward. Mine was built in April of 2018, and the attached photo shows a tag; have no idea who the mfg is.

Goose619 · 10-23-2018, 04:00 PM

Yup my back seats and front seats have loose leather. Also my passenger door light is unevenly lit. My car is about a month old. Should I go bother the dealer about it?

bmtespar · 10-23-2018, 06:11 PM

I just picked up my 2019 with ventilated seats. They are softer than the ventilated in my 2018. This is a welcome change.

Goose619 · 10-23-2018, 07:54 PM

Yeah I have the ventilated seats. They have extra coushion on them! An actual upgrade from seats without it.

welko · 12-13-2018, 12:07 AM

I have discomfort after a 2h drive on the right side of my buttocks. Keep on searching and shifting for a better position. BMW informed me the problem is unknown, but I read posts here that describe exactly the same issue.
I went to a car leather shop already twice: once to remove the leather flap because it’s exactly under my bottom cheek giving pressure. Second time they added additional foam to soften the seat, but still: after 2 hours I begin to feel pressure pain. It’s not skin irritation due to leather seams, it’s because of the small amount of pressure. No problem driving 1h, but painfull during long rides. I have a cushion for long rides but do not consider that as a permanent solution. I had a 5 series F11 before and never had any problems. Not even after a 10h drive!
I have leather vernasca cognac sport seats without ventilation. The car leather shop could replace the leather part of the bottom seat with different stitching, but the vernasca leather is new and not yet available on the aftermarket. Could take up to 1 year of waiting. I’m happy about this car, but the joy is overclouded by this issue.. if someone solved it or knows the root cause, I would be happy to hear about it!

ParadigmDawg · 12-13-2018, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by welko

I have discomfort after a 2h drive on the right side of my buttocks. Keep on searching and shifting for a better position. BMW informed me the problem is unknown, but I read posts here that describe exactly the same issue.
I went to a car leather shop already twice: once to remove the leather flap because it’s exactly under my bottom cheek giving pressure. Second time they added additional foam to soften the seat, but still: after 2 hours I begin to feel pressure pain. It’s not skin irritation due to leather seams, it’s because of the small amount of pressure. No problem driving 1h, but painfull during long rides. I have a cushion for long rides but do not consider that as a permanent solution. I had a 5 series F11 before and never had any problems. Not even after a 10h drive!
I have leather vernasca cognac sport seats without ventilation. The car leather shop could replace the leather part of the bottom seat with different stitching, but the vernasca leather is new and not yet available on the aftermarket. Could take up to 1 year of waiting. I’m happy about this car, but the joy is overclouded by this issue.. if someone solved it or knows the root cause, I would be happy to hear about it!

I think my pain is caused more by how narrow the seats are. Unless I sit with my legs together they are actually on the side bolsters which is just horrible. I may end up getting rid of the car only because of the seats.

afshawnt · 12-13-2018, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ParadigmDawg

I think my pain is caused more by how narrow the seats are. Unless I sit with my legs together they are actually on the side bolsters which is just horrible. I may end up getting rid of the car only because of the seats.

You are correct in how narrow they are. I had an F80 M3 and an M2. Both of those seemed wider in the seat bottoms.

titomi · 12-13-2018, 10:37 AM

You guys have a car made before the seat manufacturer change? I remember when I test drove the car in January, the seats were indeed narrow in the bottom side. My car was made in August a I believe the seats are wider there now.

afshawnt · 12-13-2018, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by titomi

You guys have a car made before the seat manufacturer change? I remember when I test drove the car in January, the seats were indeed narrow in the bottom side. My car was made in August a I believe the seats are wider there now.

No. I am speaking in reference to the newest seats. Car rolled off the assembly line on December 4th.

Hispeed4fun · 12-13-2018, 02:24 PM

I thought i just needed to get used to the new car and higher seating position then i see this thread. I have had two 3GT's a 5 series and a 3 sedan and never felt this discomfort. I feel like its off center and my left leg is hanging off the bolster. I keep trying playing around to get a decent position but cant find one. Its a 2019 M40 non ventilated seats built in Oct. I have about 500 miles now so pretty much new. I havent been a long drive yet but those are coming in the next few weeks and hoping it starts to feel better. Otherwise the car drives great.

Hispeed4fun · 12-13-2018, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TX3M

I'm not comfortable in my X3 M40i seat either. The top (back part) of the seat is comfortable. However, the left thigh bolster is putting a lot of pressure on my left thigh and buttock. I find myself consciously trying to slide over to the right part of the seat, but then my right back is up against the right back bolster and that's not comfortable either.

I'm hoping the left thigh bolster will soften up somewhat and adapt to my butt/thigh. Anyone else having this issue?

Same issue.

aw088817 · 12-13-2018, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hispeed4fun

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Originally Posted by TX3M

I'm not comfortable in my X3 M40i seat either. The top (back part) of the seat is comfortable. However, the left thigh bolster is putting a lot of pressure on my left thigh and buttock. I find myself consciously trying to slide over to the right part of the seat, but then my right back is up against the right back bolster and that's not comfortable either.

I'm hoping the left thigh bolster will soften up somewhat and adapt to my butt/thigh. Anyone else having this issue?

Same issue.

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Originally Posted by Hispeed4fun

Quote:

Originally Posted by TX3M

I'm not comfortable in my X3 M40i seat either. The top (back part) of the seat is comfortable. However, the left thigh bolster is putting a lot of pressure on my left thigh and buttock. I find myself consciously trying to slide over to the right part of the seat, but then my right back is up against the right back bolster and that's not comfortable either.

I'm hoping the left thigh bolster will soften up somewhat and adapt to my butt/thigh. Anyone else having this issue?

Same issue.

Exact same issue car is oct 2017. The seats are so bad. Just buying my time but long trips are painful.

BobsM3Coupe · 12-13-2018, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by titomi

You guys have a car made before the seat manufacturer change? I remember when I test drove the car in January, the seats were indeed narrow in the bottom side. My car was made in August a I believe the seats are wider there now.

Seat manufacturer for the X3 is still Lear. So that hasn't changed.
New manufacturer for the 2019 G05 X5 seats are MAGA.

titomi · 12-14-2018, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

Quote:

Originally Posted by titomi

You guys have a car made before the seat manufacturer change? I remember when I test drove the car in January, the seats were indeed narrow in the bottom side. My car was made in August a I believe the seats are wider there now.

Seat manufacturer for the X3 is still Lear. So that hasn't changed.
New manufacturer for the 2019 G05 X5 seats are MAGA.

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Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

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Originally Posted by Volvos are boring

around May 2018

Looks like they went from Lear to Magna International. I do have to say the seats in my current M40i were comfortable for the first 6 months, but since then, I can't get really comfortable (backrest) in them.

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Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

Quote:

Originally Posted by titomi

You guys have a car made before the seat manufacturer change? I remember when I test drove the car in January, the seats were indeed narrow in the bottom side. My car was made in August a I believe the seats are wider there now.

Seat manufacturer for the X3 is still Lear. So that hasn't changed.
New manufacturer for the 2019 G05 X5 seats are MAGA.

It was yours words, that the manufacturer has changed.

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BobsM3Coupe · 12-14-2018, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by titomi

It was yours words, that the manufacturer has changed.

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I realize that. That's what I initially read back then. Later discovered that the new seat mfg (MAGA) would start with the new X5. I even looked under the seat of my 2019 X3 and it indeed is still made by Lear. No doubt it may stay the same till a new X3 redesign or when the contract expires.

Tex94 · 12-14-2018, 07:15 PM

Well, I always thought the seat discomfort was due to my having the ventilated ones but now hearing all of the discussions about the non-ventilated seats makes me assume they are all bad. Seat narrowness is my number one complaint about them too. But other complaints include not enough shoulder support (the ventilated option looks narrower up top) and not great lumbar support either (can’t raise the balloon high enough).

weez · 12-14-2018, 09:18 PM

Damn, does anybody find the seats to be comfortable?

10-19-2018, 04:21 PM	#27
Viper450 Enlisted Member 37 Rep 38 Posts Drives: 2021 X3MC Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	Yes I have the same issue on my 18. The right bolster literally feels like it sticking out much more than the left and I keep trying to shift left, very annoying and not sure what to do yet but it's definitely uncomfortable.
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10-19-2018, 05:52 PM	#28
XXX3 Second Lieutenant 155 Rep 230 Posts Drives: X3 M40i Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	My seats are ok for a short trip (<2hr), and get uncomfortable on the bottom beyond 2 hr. Currently carrying a back packing seat pad for longer trips. Another thing that I’ve noticed: as I switch between my wife’s car (2018 Acura RDX) and my 2018 X3 M40i, is that I feel a bit off centered (to the right) as I get behind the wheel of my X3? Anyone else notice that? Really feels awkward. Mine was built in April of 2018, and the attached photo shows a tag; have no idea who the mfg is. Attached Images __________________ 2018 GO1 X3 M40i Alpine White 2018 Acura RDX Tech Pearl White 2016 Tundra TRD Pro (sold) 2013 Boss 302 Race Red (sold)
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10-23-2018, 04:00 PM	#29
Goose619 Private 9 Rep 63 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X3 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	Yup my back seats and front seats have loose leather. Also my passenger door light is unevenly lit. My car is about a month old. Should I go bother the dealer about it?
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10-23-2018, 06:11 PM	#30
bmtespar Major 709 Rep 1,066 Posts Drives: 19 X3 30i, 18 230iX Vert Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Atlanta Ga iTrader: (0)	I just picked up my 2019 with ventilated seats. They are softer than the ventilated in my 2018. This is a welcome change.
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10-23-2018, 07:54 PM	#31
Goose619 Private 9 Rep 63 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X3 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	Yeah I have the ventilated seats. They have extra coushion on them! An actual upgrade from seats without it.
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12-13-2018, 12:07 AM	#32
welko Registered 5 Rep 2 Posts Drives: BMW X3 G01 Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Belgium iTrader: (0)	Uncomfortable seat on right-side of driver seat I have discomfort after a 2h drive on the right side of my buttocks. Keep on searching and shifting for a better position. BMW informed me the problem is unknown, but I read posts here that describe exactly the same issue. I went to a car leather shop already twice: once to remove the leather flap because it’s exactly under my bottom cheek giving pressure. Second time they added additional foam to soften the seat, but still: after 2 hours I begin to feel pressure pain. It’s not skin irritation due to leather seams, it’s because of the small amount of pressure. No problem driving 1h, but painfull during long rides. I have a cushion for long rides but do not consider that as a permanent solution. I had a 5 series F11 before and never had any problems. Not even after a 10h drive! I have leather vernasca cognac sport seats without ventilation. The car leather shop could replace the leather part of the bottom seat with different stitching, but the vernasca leather is new and not yet available on the aftermarket. Could take up to 1 year of waiting. I’m happy about this car, but the joy is overclouded by this issue.. if someone solved it or knows the root cause, I would be happy to hear about it! Attached Images
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12-13-2018, 10:37 AM	#35
titomi Colonel 926 Rep 2,046 Posts Drives: X3 G01 30i xDrive Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: EU iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 X3 G01 [0.00]	You guys have a car made before the seat manufacturer change? I remember when I test drove the car in January, the seats were indeed narrow in the bottom side. My car was made in August a I believe the seats are wider there now. __________________ '18 G01 X3 xDrive 30i xLine, Sophisto grey, Vernasca Mocha, Adaptive
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12-13-2018, 02:24 PM	#37
Hispeed4fun First Lieutenant 181 Rep 346 Posts Drives: 2023 X5 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (0)	I thought i just needed to get used to the new car and higher seating position then i see this thread. I have had two 3GT's a 5 series and a 3 sedan and never felt this discomfort. I feel like its off center and my left leg is hanging off the bolster. I keep trying playing around to get a decent position but cant find one. Its a 2019 M40 non ventilated seats built in Oct. I have about 500 miles now so pretty much new. I havent been a long drive yet but those are coming in the next few weeks and hoping it starts to feel better. Otherwise the car drives great.
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12-14-2018, 07:15 PM	#43
Tex94 Private First Class 79 Rep 111 Posts Drives: BMW X3 M40i, Carbon Black Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0) Garage List 2019 BMW X3 M40i [0.00]	Well, I always thought the seat discomfort was due to my having the ventilated ones but now hearing all of the discussions about the non-ventilated seats makes me assume they are all bad. Seat narrowness is my number one complaint about them too. But other complaints include not enough shoulder support (the ventilated option looks narrower up top) and not great lumbar support either (can’t raise the balloon high enough).
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12-14-2018, 09:18 PM	#44
weez Lieutenant 272 Rep 467 Posts Drives: 2021 X3M Competition Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Arizona iTrader: (0)	Damn, does anybody find the seats to be comfortable?
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