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      11-08-2019, 09:00 PM   #1
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Freezing/snow driving on the summer tires!

BE WARNED... was on my way to have winter tires put on last week... no snow although at -7 degrees around a seemingly harmless curve my X4M just kept right on going across highway and 150 ft. Off side through a field and into a boulder and barbed fence.
3 weeks old and over $7000 damage!
The X4 is considerably lighter then my 17' x5 50i. You can really feel it too.
*** just don't do it.... get the perelli scorpion winters!
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      11-08-2019, 09:02 PM   #2
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damn! sorry to hear about what happened to your X4M .
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      11-08-2019, 09:04 PM   #3
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Whatttttt . Wild

Glad you are fine. No total ?

Any pics?
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      11-08-2019, 10:48 PM   #4
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Glad you are OK. The car can be repaired.

This is a cautionary tale to put snow tires earlier than the first cold spell.
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      11-09-2019, 12:20 AM   #5
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Did u hit ice ?
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Would snow tyres really have helped here? Sounds like you hit black ice?
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      11-09-2019, 07:21 AM   #7
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The only connection between your car and the road is your tires. Don't skimp. And change over to winters a month sooner than you want to...
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      11-09-2019, 08:04 AM   #8
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The only connection between your car and the road is your tires. Don't skimp. And change over to winters a month sooner than you want to...
Im a first week of December kind of guy
As long as no call for ice , freezing rain or snow...you are good. Always warm your tires up...in my M3 at least it shows tire temps. I can get them in mid 50s to 60 F, I can drive in 30 degree weather in confidence.
But totally agree that the deal to a winter set is invaluable. I can carve snow pretty well in my M3 on a Real good winter tire.
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      11-09-2019, 11:37 AM   #9
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Oh wow that's terrible. Sorry that happened! At sub freezing temps summer tires can turn into hockey pucks with virtually no grip at all even in dry. This sounds extreme though.
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Very sorry to hear this. Last year when taking the Bullitt with Michi PS4 to get the Nokian Hakkas mounted I had a similar scare. It was 15*F but dry roads... and the Mustang slid off into a bean field. No damage, but scared the crap out of me. Summer tires don't do well in the cold, and they simply don't work *at all* when there's snow on the road.

I'm having the Oregon dealer install Hakkas on the X3 when I take delivery in a few weeks.
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In addition to reduced adhesion, summer tires can crack at temperatures below 40 - 45 degree F. That causes permanent damage to summer tires which prevents their safe use even when temperatures warm up.

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Is there a good all-season tire available?

I live in CA but plan to take the car on a road trip to Utah when it arrives in a couple of weeks. I don’t need a permanent summer tire on the car and am happy to just run all-seasons. Any good options?
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Is there a good all-season tire available?

I live in CA but plan to take the car on a road trip to Utah when it arrives in a couple of weeks. I don’t need a permanent summer tire on the car and am happy to just run all-seasons. Any good options?
Tire Rack lists all-season options for the non-Comp X3M, but only dedicated summer and winter tires for the Comp.
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You might see if Michi PS AS/3+ is available in the sizes you need.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...Speed+Rated%29
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So BMWNA hasn’t designated an all-season tire for the MC’s at all? That’s a little unusual no?
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So BMWNA hasn’t designated an all-season tire for the MC’s at all? That’s a little unusual no?
Not unusual for BMW. The same situation exists with some other M vehicles, which also have no all-season tire options (e.g., M5). It appears BMW prioritizes warm weather performance for such cars and SUVs, limiting their appeal for potential buyers who live where cold weather makes summer tires unusable for part of the year. While some buyers are willing to exchange between summer and winter tires twice annually, others are not. Similarly, while some buyers don't need their M vehicles to be daily drivers, and can keep them garaged when temps are too low for safe driving on summer tires, others don't have that option.
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