[ZCPM4]

Anyone have insight for what to expect with MY2023 on the F97/98?

Hoping minimal changes, but seeing where everything else is headed...Will it get the iDrive 8 screen/button elimination? Laser headlights? Any new paint options?

Guessing the Jahre badges won't be included.

[cnichols138]

My guess is since the G20 was first introduced with all the latest tech...then everything else is following....we will not see a change to the X3 until the new life cycle. They just changed the dash so I do not see them changing it again. I think the X3/X4 will lag behind the flagship G20 interior design. Heck X3 just got I drive 7 last year right?

I would see a change to the light control in 2023. That portion of the X3 is still old tech.

[ZCPM4]

Originally Posted by cnichols138

I would see a change to the light control in 2023. That portion of the X3 is still old tech.

Light control meaning headlights or?

[thestimp]

I'm pretty sure there are no physical changes according to the german clips I've been watching, the XM will be the big change and X platform will change in the g97 or whatever platform when the put the idrive8 into it.

[Strick]

iDrive 8 would be my guess

[Bestle]

iDrive 8 is definitely a possibility, the pre LCI did move from 6 to 7 after all.

[cnichols138]

Originally Posted by ZCPM4

Light control meaning headlights or?

the headlight control switch. IN the G20 its push button. In the X3 it still a turn knob. At least in the X5 they put in the push button. Not sure why the LCI F97 did not get the upgrade.

[moff]

I doubt idrive 8 will come to the X3/X4 but it's cheaper so it might.

It would need a major change if dash and non M cars would likely lose the gear stick too.

We've just had the LCI so it doesn't make sense to me.

No chance on laser lights - they will remain an option.

The engine was updated with the LCI too, so I changes there either.

But…. in Europe speed limiters are on the way.

[DFTBA]

Speed limiters are on the way for models newly introduced to the market after July 22 (I think), not for cars first registered after that date. That's my understanding at least.

[ZCPM4]

Originally Posted by drexplode

MY23 order guides released for all models: https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/at...1&d=1653936436

2023 Order Guide! Props to drexplode

Did a side by side compare for F97 X3M and checking all the boxes would result in a $5,150 increase YOY (~6%^). New things I see:

• Carbon Strut option! $500
• No longer get a credit on the Executive Package if you add the M Drivers Package (previously knocked $1,200 off the price)
• Remote start charge of $300 is back
• Drive recorder can be added for $100 (think it's $149 for lifetime access from the Connected Store after the fact?)
• Wireless charging listed as an option, but free

[YolkyPalky]

Originally Posted by ZCPM4

2023 Order Guide! Props to drexplode

Did a side by side compare for F97 X3M and checking all the boxes would result in a $5,150 increase YOY (~6%^). New things I see:

• Carbon Strut option! $500
• No longer get a credit on the Executive Package if you add the M Drivers Package (previously knocked $1,200 off the price)
• Remote start charge of $300 is back
• Drive recorder can be added for $100 (think it's $149 for lifetime access from the Connected Store after the fact?)
• Wireless charging listed as an option, but free

Page 145 of 209 for X3M/X4M.

Looks like MY2023 begins with 08/2022 production, right?

[thestimp]

Originally Posted by ZCPM4

2023 Order Guide! Props to drexplode

Did a side by side compare for F97 X3M and checking all the boxes would result in a $5,150 increase YOY (~6%^). New things I see:

• Carbon Strut option! $500
• No longer get a credit on the Executive Package if you add the M Drivers Package (previously knocked $1,200 off the price)
• Remote start charge of $300 is back
• Drive recorder can be added for $100 (think it's $149 for lifetime access from the Connected Store after the fact?)
• Wireless charging listed as an option, but free

Fuck that! It also comes with the new warranty/refresh program they are trying to push I believe, maintenance package is going to be ridiculously expensive now.

[Max Well]

Originally Posted by ZCPM4

2023 Order Guide! Props to drexplode

Originally Posted by YolkyPalky

Page 145 of 209 for X3M/X4M...

Appreciate the above (and couldn't find drexplode's original post of the guide to appreciate as well). Looks like roof rail deletion won't be an option as I had hoped, so will now order new PS4S for my 2020. Thanks to all for sharing.

[jclaib]

5/31 revisions were made to the 2023 MY pricing. See the link below. Revisions in yellow. This is from my dealer and for the X3M and X4M.

LINK: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fjk3m09ilu...etail.pdf?dl=0

[allinon72]

There won't be any changes 1 year after the LCI.

[ZCPM4]

Originally Posted by jclaib

5/31 revisions were made to the 2023 MY pricing. See the link below. Revisions in yellow. This is from my dealer and for the X3M and X4M.

LINK: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fjk3m09ilu...etail.pdf?dl=0

Thanks! Interesting it seems they're charging $500 across the lineup for wireless charging with 2023, when it's been mostly unusable previously. Wonder if they are improving the actual charging pad for 2023 or if it remains just a phone heater?

Was the Carbon Strut available as an option for 2022? I don't see it on the 2022 Pricing Guide (2022 X3M / X4M Pricing Guide [PDF]). But I have seen a screen shot someone posted having it on a recent build. Is it an option on CA's can see?

[thestimp]

Originally Posted by ZCPM4

Thanks! Interesting it seems they're charging $500 across the lineup for wireless charging with 2023, when it's been mostly unusable previously. Wonder if they are improving the actual charging pad for 2023 or if it remains just a phone heater?

Was the Carbon Strut available as an option for 2022? I don't see it on the 2022 Pricing Guide (2022 X3M / X4M Pricing Guide [PDF]). But I have seen a screen shot someone posted having it on a recent build. Is it an option on CA's can see?

I was just talking to a friend at BMW, they are changing out the charging pad for a 24W fast charger with 2 stage charging, so no more taco warmer hopefully.

[Rottweiler]

Originally Posted by thestimp

Fuck that! It also comes with the new warranty/refresh program they are trying to push I believe, maintenance package is going to be ridiculously expensive now.

Can you elaborate on this please?

Thank you

[thestimp]

Originally Posted by Rottweiler

Can you elaborate on this please?

Thank you

Just all new pricing and time intervals, it makes the program way more expensive. Check dealer costing.

[Mrdonbonjovi]

Any other updates for 2023? Seems like wireless charging efficiency and increased cost across the board.

Nothing else?

[BMWZ4]

Originally Posted by ZCPM4

Thanks! Interesting it seems they're charging $500 across the lineup for wireless charging with 2023, when it's been mostly unusable previously. Wonder if they are improving the actual charging pad for 2023 or if it remains just a phone heater?

Was the Carbon Strut available as an option for 2022? I don't see it on the 2022 Pricing Guide (2022 X3M / X4M Pricing Guide [PDF]). But I have seen a screen shot someone posted having it on a recent build. Is it an option on CA's can see?

The CF strut was an option in Canada for the MY20 for $500, not sure about the U.S. though

[bear1m]

Originally Posted by BMWZ4

The CF strut was an option in Canada for the MY20 for $500, not sure about the U.S. though

For MY22 in Canada, the CF strut was part of the driver's package (CF strut, CF mirror caps, higher speed limit and M driver training in the US) and was not available as a standalone option. It's possible that MY23 might go that route in the US.