[iX3 rijder]

Read this morning the good news Tesla to extend the “charging for non-Tesla drivers” to England, Norway, Sweden, Austria, Spain and Belgium!

Used them several times, I can only strongly advise to download the app and arrange access. Very practically located and reliable. But pricey. As we say in Holland “it costs, but you get something in return”

[Imspartacus123]

Originally Posted by iX3 rijder

Read this morning the good news Tesla to extend the “charging for non-Tesla drivers” to England, Norway, Sweden, Austria, Spain and Belgium!

Used them several times, I can only strongly advise to download the app and arrange access. Very practically located and reliable. But pricey. As we say in Holland “it costs, but you get something in return”

So Tesla are to open up some of its chargers in the UK to non Tesla cars, starting with 15 of them (out of almost 600), can you imagine the daggers from Tesla owners if you are there using one of 'their' chargers, especially if all in use, LOL, I see trouble ahead!!!

[iX3 rijder]

Originally Posted by Imspartacus123

So Tesla are to open up some of its chargers in the UK to non Tesla cars, starting with 15 of them (out of almost 600), can you imagine the daggers from Tesla owners if you are there using one of 'their' chargers, especially if all in use, LOL, I see trouble ahead!!!

Used them in France and Holland frequently, never had any issue with availability nor with sour faces so far. In France been approached by a Tesla driver asking questions and looking into the iX3. Concluded it would make a serious candidate replacing his Model X.

[GDEvans]

I've just opened an account in the Tesla app.

It appears that this is only being opened up on selected Superchargers. The nearest Supercharger to me is 30 miles away. However, the closest one that I can access is 165 miles from here!!

[Imspartacus123]

Originally Posted by GDEvans

I've just opened an account in the Tesla app.

It appears that this is only being opened up on selected Superchargers. The nearest Supercharger to me is 30 miles away. However, the closest one that I can access is 165 miles from here!!

Closest to me as part of the pilot scheme is 30 miles away (around 45 mins), handy for trips to/from North Wales

[jukkha156]

This is of course fantastic news for us ix3 owners.

I do have a slight concern reading about the Tesla cables being very short and with our ports on the right side (when looking from rear) and potentially 'blocking' an extra bay?

How have you all got on in the Netherlands with this?

[adam.b]

Originally Posted by GDEvans

I've just opened an account in the Tesla app.

It appears that this is only being opened up on selected Superchargers. The nearest Supercharger to me is 30 miles away. However, the closest one that I can access is 165 miles from here!!

Where I can find non tesla chargers on app?

[Hud78]

Once you register etc the main banner when opening the app says 'charge your non-Tesla'.

...61p/kWh!

[adam.b]

Thanks, just saw it.

[GDEvans]

Originally Posted by Hud78

Once you register etc the main banner when opening the app says 'charge your non-Tesla'.

...61p/kWh!

Cheaper than I was expecting. Certainly less than IONITY charge for people without preferential pricing, such as BMW Charging (69p/kWh). And only slightly more than BP, at 55p/kWh.

[Imspartacus123]

Originally Posted by Hud78

Once you register etc the main banner when opening the app says 'charge your non-Tesla'.

...61p/kWh!

Article I read said you could pay a subscription fee which would bring that rate down, but not sure to what, 61p/kWh is pretty high but then the electrons are of very high quality, like Opimax Electrons

[Hud78]

Originally Posted by GDEvans

Cheaper than I was expecting. Certainly less than IONITY charge for people without preferential pricing, such as BMW Charging (69p/kWh). And only slightly more than BP, at 55p/kWh.

True, but only drops slightly to 50p/kWh with membership (£10.99pm). I guess if you're going to take over 100kWh per month it's possibly worth a membership.

But...compared to 26p with Ionity with subscription, it's quite expensive!

Ironically the supercharger near me is opened up but there's also an Ionity very close to it. Both are too close to home to be of use unless we need a quick top up to make the last 15 miles.

[GDEvans]

Originally Posted by Hud78

True, but only drops slightly to 50p/kWh with membership (£10.99pm). I guess if you're going to take over 100kWh per month it's possibly worth a membership.

But...compared to 26p with Ionity with subscription, it's quite expensive!

However, once this opens up nationally it will be a useful backup option. There are vastly more Tesla superchargers than IONITY chargers.

Also, most EV drivers do not have access to IONITY at 26p. That is a BMW Charging offer. The Polestar special price is higher than that. And any BMW drivers without the subscription will be paying full price for IONITY.

[Hud78]

Originally Posted by GDEvans

However, once this opens up nationally it will be a useful backup option. There are vastly more Tesla superchargers than IONITY chargers.

Also, most EV drivers do not have access to IONITY at 26p. That is a BMW Charging offer. The Polestar special price is higher than that. And any BMW drivers without the subscription will be paying full price for IONITY.

Agree, it's definitely a useful backup.

With Ionity passport (open to anyone) it's 35p but you're ties into 12 months at £16.99pm - expensive option and not practical for the occasional long trip.

Interestingly, just noticed the membership price per kWh varies between the Tesla chargers. Eg Cambridge is 50p, but Grays is 48p and Uxbridge is 28p!

[iX3 rijder]

Originally Posted by jukkha156

This is of course fantastic news for us ix3 owners.

I do have a slight concern reading about the Tesla cables being very short and with our ports on the right side (when looking from rear) and potentially 'blocking' an extra bay?

How have you all got on in the Netherlands with this?

Both in Holland and France never been an issue. The 8 times I used a Tesla HPC there was always a bay available such to connect without obstructing another. Might occur in summer at certain stations along “Route du Solei” when extremely busy.

Cables are short, fact. Backwards parking is mandatory.

[GDEvans]

Originally Posted by Hud78

Agree, it's definitely a useful backup.

With Ionity passport (open to anyone) it's 35p but you're ties into 12 months at £16.99pm - expensive option and not practical for the occasional long trip.

Interestingly, just noticed the membership price per kWh varies between the Tesla chargers. Eg Cambridge is 50p, but Grays is 48p and Uxbridge is 28p!

To make the BMW Charging IONITY scheme worthwhile over PAYG rates, you need to use an average of 26kWh per month.

The IONITY Passport would need usage of 50kWh per month to make a saving.

The Tesla subscription has such a small price difference for the chargers “near” me, that it would take 92kWh per month to pay for the subscription fee.

I’ll be sticking with the BMW subscription when my free trial expires. Under this deal, it is cheaper for me to charge at IONITY during the day than it is to charge at home! Crazy!

[Imspartacus123]

Originally Posted by GDEvans

To make the BMW Charging IONITY scheme worthwhile over PAYG rates, you need to use an average of 26kWh per month.

The IONITY Passport would need usage of 50kWh per month to make a saving.

The Tesla subscription has such a small price difference for the chargers “near” me, that it would take 92kWh per month to pay for the subscription fee.

I’ll be sticking with the BMW subscription when my free trial expires. Under this deal, it is cheaper for me to charge at IONITY during the day than it is to charge at home! Crazy!

I have just been looking to see where my local IONITY charging station is, answer is, nowhere near me, Luckily the one in MK may just about do me when I am doing the odd journey down south and back, I was expecting to see loads of IONITY everywhere, does anybody know if they have a rollout plan, non in Wales, and non near Birmingham.

[keninuk]

Originally Posted by GDEvans

I've just opened an account in the Tesla app.

It appears that this is only being opened up on selected Superchargers. The nearest Supercharger to me is 30 miles away. However, the closest one that I can access is 165 miles from here!!

165 miles - Perfect for a stop there if you are planning a trip that way

I will probably load the app as Banbury, Uxbridge or Cardiff may prove useful. Even Manchester if heading up that way.

Interesting times ahead and Tesla may find their chargers being EV'd...

[GDEvans]

Originally Posted by keninuk

165 miles - Perfect for a stop there if you are planning a trip that way

I will probably load the app as Banbury, Uxbridge or Cardiff may prove useful. Even Manchester if heading up that way.

Interesting times ahead and Tesla may find their chargers being EV'd...

I would have to go into Wales for my nearest one. And that's only any use if I wanted to go to Wales which, despite my name, is a rare occurrence!!! If I'm going the other way, IONITY is about the same distance away and half the price.

Tesla will be a backup option. Although it will be worth paying the premium price just to annoy a few Tesla drivers!

[EVFan]

My regular travel does not include using 3rd-party rapid chargers very often at all, so hopefully I will not have to resort to using the Tesla chargers. But I guess it is good to know I could in an extreme emergency.