[Kevin_The_Clean1]

Originally Posted by rosemont83

No... I passed on a "true" M car because I already have an e39 M5, a 911 turbo, and have had an F82 M comp, so I know what M car things mean and I don't want to deal with that.. Idk how "true" of an M car an X can be though except on the maintenance.. lol

I use to have an E39 M5 too btw. That's great that you have some fun machines. But maybe owning some of those cars long term is what's clouding your vision about the F97. Unlike the leaky M5, the high maintenance 911 & the S55 that's proven to have an obvious factory defect, the S58 has proven to hold double it's factory power. So what if plugs have to be changed often. Maybe if you had a few less high maintenance machines you'd have more time overall to wrench around just a touch. I would get my man card revoked if I said oil changes & plug replacement were too much for me to handle. Just saying.

And if you don't believe the X3 M is a "true M car" don't take my word for it. See how Randy Pobst behind the wheel of a DINAN X3 M with simple bolt-ons pushed a relatively stock X3 M to 1st in class, and 9th overall (of 80+ entries). They don't call the X3 M the M3 of the SUV world for nothing. Since day one it's been punching way above its weight. I love eating Porsches & Corvettes. Adjusting peoples egos when they least expect it.

[Andy98]

Originally Posted by Mnfamilyguy2020

I have over 60K now on mine. Not one leak, misfire or shudder. Wish I could have said that for my F06 650.

Tons of fluid changes, two spark plug changes.

I did have some very squeaky brakes which the dealer replaced and a driver side burnt out
seat heater.

Oh, and I go through tires like they are toilet paper.....

Great insight- they seem very reliable! And mechanic said they are very good to tune and play around with and will hold up better than AMGs
The only thing is price vs pre lci and lci is around $18-$35k extra which is a hard pill to swallow

[Andy98]

This really clean example has come up for $92k ish

What are your thoughts?

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...SE-AD-16561216

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

Originally Posted by Andy98

This really clean example has come up for $92k ish

What are your thoughts?

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...SE-AD-16561216

That guy must be off his meds. $92k for a X3 M. LAMO

[Th3Walrus]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

That guy must be off his meds. $92k for a X3 M. LAMO

OP is in Australia. $92k AUD = $60K USD. Still high, but sounds like vehicles are more expensive there.

[Andy98]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

That guy must be off his meds. $92k for a X3 M. LAMO

In Aus that is very cheap - currently for a brand new X3M it is $199,000 AUD

[Andy98]

Will the new X3M/4M in 2025+ be worth the wait or do you guys think this would be worth it?

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...AG-AD-22918392

It’s got a Remus full exhaust installed and aftermarket rims - highest I’d pay is $100k AUD

Thoughts?

[joebie3]

Though I haven't done spark plugs in this car yet, I've done *several* sets in the STi and I can confidently say the X3 can't be worse than that. And it's certainly not a reason I would buy/not buy a car lol

[raffman44]

Originally Posted by thestimp

If you can afford an X3M get it. If you can't, don't. Most people spend another $5k in mods in the lifetime of the car. Exhaust, tune, upgraded bolt ons etc...

I got a X3M and had every intention of keeping it stock. Within 6 months its Stage 1 via BM3 and MSS spring are en route.

all in all itll be like 2.5-3k but will ride smoother and its honestly too fast with this tune... If you are looking 20/21' try for CPO. A way to get another year or so of warranty

[Andy98]

There has been a few more 2021 X3M comps coming up - is there any info on new X3M next gen come out or should I bite the bullet on a 2021 model?

[Max Well]

Originally Posted by Andy98

There has been a few more 2021 X3M comps coming up - is there any info on new X3M next gen come out or should I bite the bullet on a 2021 model?

To my knowledge the SOP-EOP dates for the G97 X3MC have not been shared yet. I started a thread on the next gen at https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2048371, but even ynguldyn {our Forum Insider} just indicated to look at past Hx of an M release to its base model as a rough guide. If that holds true then we're probably looking at Summer 2026 for a 2027 model year introduction which I shared in that thread.

[Andy98]

Originally Posted by Max Well

To my knowledge the SOP-EOP dates for the G97 X3MC have not been shared yet. I started a thread on the next gen at https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showt...php?t=2048371, but even ynguldyn {our Forum Insider} just indicated to look at past Hx of an M release to its base model as a rough guide. If that holds true then we're probably looking at Summer 2026 for a 2027 model year introduction which I shared in that thread.

Hi Mate!

Thankyou so much appreciate all the info - I did take a look there prior.

I just worry that I’ll spend $100K aud for a pre lci model and then 12-18 months a whole new car will come out and this one will tank in value

[Max Well]

Originally Posted by Andy98

Hi Mate!

Thankyou so much appreciate all the info - I did take a look there prior.

I just worry that I’ll spend $100K aud for a pre lci model and then 12-18 months a whole new car will come out and this one will tank in value

No doubt opinions will vary, but I suspect F97s' value (including the pre-LCI variant) will fair well in the future considering the amazing S58 and their performance and handling characteristics. And this may become even more attractive to ICE Enthusiasts if future models contain battery/electric drive combinations and weigh a lot more. Take the new G90 M5 for example, with recently shared specs suggesting a wt increase of roughly 1,000 lbs c/w the 2023 F90 M5C. Lots of discussion re that on the M5 Forum - https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2083651 .

Personally, as we really like our current X3MCs (pre-LCI and LCI), I could see us holding on to them for years if the G97 doesn't 'hit it out of the park'.

[edcvin]

I personally think this X3M variant (F97) is going to be solid candidate for long term ownership. BMW got it right with the motor and the overall driving dynamics of the X3M. Quite frankly, there is not much in its category that competes with it.

The next version will probably have either an electrification component or some form of efficiency. I am sure it will be fast but I don't know that it will be same engineering that went into the S58.

While I do not necessarily keep my daily driven cars long. I see myself eventually getting another daily and keeping the X3M as a secondary.

[Andy98]

Originally Posted by edcvin

I personally think this X3M variant (F97) is going to be solid candidate for long term ownership. BMW got it right with the motor and the overall driving dynamics of the X3M. Quite frankly, there is not much in its category that competes with it.

The next version will probably have either an electrification component or some form of efficiency. I am sure it will be fast but I don't know that it will be same engineering that went into the S58.

While I do not necessarily keep my daily driven cars long. I see myself eventually getting another daily and keeping the X3M as a secondary.

Hey mate!
Awesome prospective - those are so fair points.
I think I had a bad experience with my GLA 45 amg 2017 - bought it for $61k and 12 months later can’t even get $49k for it 😅

[cutnsew]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

They don't call the X3 M the M3 of the SUV world for nothing. Since day one it's been punching way above its weight. I love eating Porsches & Corvettes. Adjusting peoples egos when they least expect it.

Aston Martin DBX tried to run from me recently (not the 707 model). I passed him then I slowed down (He sounded pretty good). I rolled my windows down to give him a wave but he wouldn't look over. Like c'mon man, it's a $200K car. Who cares if a BMW was a little faster...you drive an Aston.

[Andy98]

Originally Posted by cutnsew

Aston Martin DBX tried to run from me recently (not the 707 model). I passed him then I slowed down (He sounded pretty good). I rolled my windows down to give him a wave but he wouldn't look over. Like c'mon man, it's a $200K car. Who cares if a BMW was a little faster...you drive an Aston.

Ahah that is funny - it’s crazy what you can do to these x3m with little money and they are just sleepers honestly

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

Originally Posted by cutnsew

Aston Martin DBX tried to run from me recently (not the 707 model). I passed him then I slowed down (He sounded pretty good). I rolled my windows down to give him a wave but he wouldn't look over. Like c'mon man, it's a $200K car. Who cares if a BMW was a little faster...you drive an Aston.

I'm sure his feelings were a touch hurt at the moment you tried to wave to him. Some people are humble but many just can't accept a 4,500 lb SUV is just as quick if not quicker than they're dedicated expensive sports car.

[Andy98]

Anyone have any more insight?
There’s a few nice 2021 models come out for around $105k AUD, one with a Remus exhaust which wouldn’t be too bad!

[Jnat]

Long time enthusiast here and my take is i'd buy another if I were a little younger with different plans in the next 5+ years. I'm so enthused as an owner of a 20 X3M that for the first time in probably 20+ years i'm not using my performance car as a daily as i think this vehicle is special and i use it as a true weekend / car show type vehicle. Like I said, i'd buy another without hesitation if the timing were different. GLWD

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

Originally Posted by Jnat

Long time enthusiast here and my take is i'd buy another if I were a little younger with different plans in the next 5+ years. I'm so enthused as an owner of a 20 X3M that for the first time in probably 20+ years i'm not using my performance car as a daily as i think this vehicle is special and i use it as a true weekend / car show type vehicle. Like I said, i'd buy another without hesitation if the timing were different. GLWD

Same here, in my younger years when I knew a lot less I only had one car to drive full time. Over they years I learned a lot & eventually found out that the only way to keep one vehicle in pretty pristine shape was to not drive it every day & have a DD. Therefore, I'm not worried about the warranty that much. Other then tires & break services, I highly doubt the S-58 will need anything major down the line. Only time will tell though I guess.

[Jnat]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

Same here, in my younger years when I knew a lot less I only had one car to drive full time. Over they years I learned a lot & eventually found out that the only way to keep one vehicle in pretty pristine shape was to not drive it every day & have a DD. Therefore, I'm not worried about the warranty that much. Other then tires & break services, I highly doubt the S-58 will need anything major down the line. Only time will tell though I guess.

It's a solid platform through and through from what we all see, it's not luck. Now individually any of us could have bad luck and have something happen but the platform has proven solid i think we all have to say at this point. Give BMW engineering their props because they nailed it with the M3/4/X3-4M platform.