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      09-01-2019, 05:34 PM   #67
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Here is a faster pass since I did not hit the brakes before the end of the 1/4. BTW, I had a Macan for a week.,.,the X3M kills it in handling. I guarantee the X3M C will go into the 7's at the Ring.
With -.75% slope corrected , it's more like a 12.0sec 1/4mi run.
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"Right. So does it handle as good as a Porsche Macan? How stiff and buttoned down is the chassis."
That's the rub. It's an SUV, so will be fighting against a high CoG. Just all calm down and wait for the new M3/4. All the talk will then be about that and how well it handles and not just 0-60.

I love my F80 and C63S, for how quickly they can accelerate from 40-120mph. 0-60 just doesn't correspond to normal driving.
0-60mph doesn't correspond to normal driving but 40-120mph does?



Sound like you don't drive much in urban areas and you're more on the highway, even then though, 120mph is very illegal in most places.

Where do you live that it's normal to accelerate from 40-120?
Semi-rural. Definitely not the traffic light Grand Prix.

If you don't like to go too fast try 40-80, but my point is that in normal driving, you are already rolling when you need to tap into some power. Eg when approaching a truck on a dual carriageway and you need to pull out when someone is approaching in the fast lane. That's when having some power makes for safer driving. Ditto, accelerating down a slip road to get up to traffic speed- typically 70-80mph in the UK - having power allows you to get in front of the truck that can't pullover because the fast lane is occupied.

If you don't drive on those sorts of roads then you won't "get it", but mid range is more important to me than pure 0-60, which once you get down to less than 5 seconds becomes more about traction than performance.
Thanks for the explanation.

I love to drive fast but I also like to keep my record clean and my insurance rate low. I guess I need a solid radar detector and laser jammers.

I used to know this girl that was paying $500/m for car insurance due to the points on her record, that's a damn car payment!
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With -.75% slope corrected , it's more like a 12.0sec 1/4mi run.
That’s LESS than an NHRA CERTIFIED TRACK. Did you see the word VERIFIED ? +- 1%.

If it ran uphill + 1% it wouldn’t change more than 0.10 LOOK at the other slope and compare. Geeeze.
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With -.75% slope corrected , it's more like a 12.0sec 1/4mi run.
That's LESS than an NHRA CERTIFIED TRACK. Did you see the word VERIFIED ? +- 1%.

If it ran uphill + 1% it wouldn't change more than 0.10 LOOK at the other slope and compare. Geeeze.
-.75% is a lot of slope. Worth about .2 tenths going downhill
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Oh boy...🤯......Ok..
Enlighten us numerically as to how it ran this 11.72 on an UPHILL +0.62% slope IF a 0 slope would be a 12.0 ??
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Must be another down hill track
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That's awesome!

Seriously though why is everyone so pressed with 0 to 60 etc.

I get it's a benchmark

What's it like to drive?

Speed would be so far down the priority
List for me with an suv.

Looks, comfort, and suitable performance for a Sport Suv.

Nice numbers OP!
I’ll take a stab. Drove one at the local M Town, stepping straight out of my 2018 M3 with CS map. The straight line acceleration felt every bit as fast as the M3. Granted in traffic and all that but very very impressive. Handling wise, it’s suitable for a sporty SUV, good in transitions and as you would expect excellent under power coming out of turns.

You mostly feel the weight under braking, where to my perception there was a lot of brake dive and a big sense of mass. I’m not saying brakes aren’t effective, just that you definitely realize you aren’t driving a sedan.

I would not mind at all having one of these for a DD, if I had a dedicated track toy. It would be enjoyable, fast, practical.

As a matter of fact, our X3 should come in for a replacement just when the first wave of X3Ms will come out of leases.
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That's awesome!

Seriously though why is everyone so pressed with 0 to 60 etc.

I get it's a benchmark

What's it like to drive?

Speed would be so far down the priority
List for me with an suv.

Looks, comfort, and suitable performance for a Sport Suv.

Nice numbers OP!
I'll take a stab. Drove one at the local M Town, stepping straight out of my 2018 M3 with CS map. The straight line acceleration felt every bit as fast as the M3. Granted in traffic and all that but very very impressive. Handling wise, it's suitable for a sporty SUV, good in transitions and as you would expect excellent under power coming out of turns.

You mostly feel the weight under braking, where to my perception there was a lot of brake dive and a big sense of mass. I'm not saying brakes aren't effective, just that you definitely realize you aren't driving a sedan.

I would not mind at all having one of these for a DD, if I had a dedicated track toy. It would be enjoyable, fast, practical.

As a matter of fact, our X3 should come in for a replacement just when the first wave of X3Ms will come out of leases.
Awesome thank you 🙏🏾
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"Right. So does it handle as good as a Porsche Macan? How stiff and buttoned down is the chassis."
That's the rub. It's an SUV, so will be fighting against a high CoG. Just all calm down and wait for the new M3/4. All the talk will then be about that and how well it handles and not just 0-60.

I love my F80 and C63S, for how quickly they can accelerate from 40-120mph. 0-60 just doesn't correspond to normal driving.
0-60mph doesn't correspond to normal driving but 40-120mph does?



Sound like you don't drive much in urban areas and you're more on the highway, even then though, 120mph is very illegal in most places.

Where do you live that it's normal to accelerate from 40-120?
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"Right. So does it handle as good as a Porsche Macan? How stiff and buttoned down is the chassis."
That's the rub. It's an SUV, so will be fighting against a high CoG. Just all calm down and wait for the new M3/4. All the talk will then be about that and how well it handles and not just 0-60.

I love my F80 and C63S, for how quickly they can accelerate from 40-120mph. 0-60 just doesn't correspond to normal driving.
0-60mph doesn't correspond to normal driving but 40-120mph does?



Sound like you don't drive much in urban areas and you're more on the highway, even then though, 120mph is very illegal in most places.

Where do you live that it's normal to accelerate from 40-120?
Connecticut

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Well lucky you, I guess they don't have a very attentive highway patrol in Connecticut if you're getting up to 120mph regularly on all those highways.

Or

What sort of radar do you use? Escort? Valentine?
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That's awesome!

Seriously though why is everyone so pressed with 0 to 60 etc.

I get it's a benchmark

What's it like to drive?

Speed would be so far down the priority
List for me with an suv.

Looks, comfort, and suitable performance for a Sport Suv.

Nice numbers OP!
I'll take a stab. Drove one at the local M Town, stepping straight out of my 2018 M3 with CS map. The straight line acceleration felt every bit as fast as the M3. Granted in traffic and all that but very very impressive. Handling wise, it's suitable for a sporty SUV, good in transitions and as you would expect excellent under power coming out of turns.

You mostly feel the weight under braking, where to my perception there was a lot of brake dive and a big sense of mass. I'm not saying brakes aren't effective, just that you definitely realize you aren't driving a sedan.

I would not mind at all having one of these for a DD, if I had a dedicated track toy. It would be enjoyable, fast, practical.

As a matter of fact, our X3 should come in for a replacement just when the first wave of X3Ms will come out of leases.
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"Right. So does it handle as good as a Porsche Macan? How stiff and buttoned down is the chassis."
That's the rub. It's an SUV, so will be fighting against a high CoG. Just all calm down and wait for the new M3/4. All the talk will then be about that and how well it handles and not just 0-60.

I love my F80 and C63S, for how quickly they can accelerate from 40-120mph. 0-60 just doesn't correspond to normal driving.
0-60mph doesn't correspond to normal driving but 40-120mph does?



Sound like you don't drive much in urban areas and you're more on the highway, even then though, 120mph is very illegal in most places.

Where do you live that it's normal to accelerate from 40-120?
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"Right. So does it handle as good as a Porsche Macan? How stiff and buttoned down is the chassis."
That's the rub. It's an SUV, so will be fighting against a high CoG. Just all calm down and wait for the new M3/4. All the talk will then be about that and how well it handles and not just 0-60.

I love my F80 and C63S, for how quickly they can accelerate from 40-120mph. 0-60 just doesn't correspond to normal driving.
0-60mph doesn't correspond to normal driving but 40-120mph does?



Sound like you don't drive much in urban areas and you're more on the highway, even then though, 120mph is very illegal in most places.

Where do you live that it's normal to accelerate from 40-120?
Connecticut

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691
Rte 2
Well lucky you, I guess they don't have a very attentive highway patrol in Connecticut if you're getting up to 120mph regularly on all those highways.

Or

What sort of radar do you use? Escort? Valentine?
It's not often but you could...

I've got the speed bug out of me for the most part. Just being on good road is fine. I don't need to be going 120+

Just driving is fun now; taking a corner acceleration don't need to go crazy

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Gotta bet that total G80 production will be lowered by the availability of X3M.
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Gotta bet that total G80 production will be lowered by the availability of X3M.
Whilst stealing a few GLC63 (based on price), Stelvio (based on tech), trackhawk (based on handling) customers along the way...
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Gotta bet that total G80 production will be lowered by the availability of X3M.
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Whilst stealing a few GLC63 (based on price), Stelvio (based on tech), trackhawk (based on handling) customers along the way...
Given the numbers...yea...I am almost all in on the X3MC as the replacement for my M4 in a year or two...PCD followed by cross country road trip!
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"Right. So does it handle as good as a Porsche Macan? How stiff and buttoned down is the chassis."
That's the rub. It's an SUV, so will be fighting against a high CoG. Just all calm down and wait for the new M3/4. All the talk will then be about that and how well it handles and not just 0-60.

I love my F80 and C63S, for how quickly they can accelerate from 40-120mph. 0-60 just doesn't correspond to normal driving.
0-60mph doesn't correspond to normal driving but 40-120mph does?



Sound like you don't drive much in urban areas and you're more on the highway, even then though, 120mph is very illegal in most places.

Where do you live that it's normal to accelerate from 40-120?
Semi-rural. Definitely not the traffic light Grand Prix.

If you don't like to go too fast try 40-80, but my point is that in normal driving, you are already rolling when you need to tap into some power. Eg when approaching a truck on a dual carriageway and you need to pull out when someone is approaching in the fast lane. That's when having some power makes for safer driving. Ditto, accelerating down a slip road to get up to traffic speed- typically 70-80mph in the UK - having power allows you to get in front of the truck that can't pullover because the fast lane is occupied.

If you don't drive on those sorts of roads then you won't "get it", but mid range is more important to me than pure 0-60, which once you get down to less than 5 seconds becomes more about traction than performance.
Thanks for the explanation.

I love to drive fast but I also like to keep my record clean and my insurance rate low. I guess I need a solid radar detector and laser jammers.

I used to know this girl that was paying $500/m for car insurance due to the points on her record, that's a damn car payment!
She sounds like fun! 😉
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If these numbers are accurate this thing might be as quick/fast as the trackhawk

I'll just have to modify my TH to run 9's for like $2k

Cant wait to see what the performance of these x3Ms can do with mods!!!
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3.57 seconds to 60? Damn, that is FAST for a stock SUV! So much for BMWs reported 4.1 seconds.. And you weren't even at sea level! Impressive run! Correct me if I'm wrong, but that puts it besting the GLC 63S and about tieing the Stelvio. My X3MC is still about three weeks out from delivery. I actually went to the dealer today and sat in his X4MC on he showroom floor for about a hour just to get a fix. Your drag results make me want mine even more now..
These are the results Car and Driver published when they tested the GLC 63s Coupe. I bet it would be a very good race.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...e-test-review/

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If these numbers are accurate this thing might be as quick/fast as the trackhawk

I'll just have to modify my TH to run 9's for like $2k

Cant wait to see what the performance of these x3Ms can do with mods!!!
Strange...
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Just that one pass. I did do one more quick 0-60 and it ran 3.40 with roll out.
The run you got the 3.40 on you didn't use LC? Does the car let you "Torque-Brake"? Or what was the method for the 3.40 run?

What is you experiences and opinions on "Torque-Braking" vs. using the full on Launch Control?
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