[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by 04cobra

Maybe i missed it, was this the comp version?

Yes.

[onfireX5]

Here is a faster pass since I did not hit the brakes before the end of the 1/4. BTW, I had a Macan for a week.,.,the X3M kills it in handling. I guarantee the X3M C will go into the 7’s at the Ring.

[Machtavian]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

Here is a faster pass since I did not hit the brakes before the end of the 1/4. BTW, I had a Macan for a week.,.,the X3M kills it in handling. I guarantee the X3M C will go into the 7's at the Ring.

Wow, 1.86 60' that's not even that great, must be all that weight and the D/A killing the torque. I'm excited about the G80 comp. With less weight, a better 60', and better air I think it can go in the 10.7-10.8 stock.

[Bogey4me]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

They will also be quicker in the magazine articles since C&D, MT, etc use rollout for the 1/4 mile like my results above and also use roll out for the 0 to 60mph runs.

My 0-60 in 3.57 seconds did not use roll out. With roll out (12") it was 3.38 seconds.

Pure stock that is massively impressive. My F90M5 was 3.01 with rollout on the same "track". My F85X5M was 3.60 with roll out and RaceChip, Dinan Intake, Akra, etc. Pure stock was 3.95 F85X5M 1/4 mile on the same "track" was 12.2 at 114mph pure stock. 11.85 at 117.x with the mods. The stock X3MC is insane. BMW has a dilemma .....the new X5M is coming this fall....with the M5 awesome V8TT...but 600-620hp will not overcome 510hp and 900lbs weight delta.....unless BMW cuts weight on the X5M....the X3MC will be quicker/faster....not good...If they up the HP on the V8TT...the M5 market will be pissed....not good...real dilemma

This wouldn't be without precedent. I believe it happened with the last gen X5M. My F85 was faster than the M5 that had come out a few years earlier. The new X5M is going have more power than the M5 and will cost more, just like the last gen. That's my guess.

[kingmonkeyjr]

Bye bye M5 Competition

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by Bogey4me

This wouldn't be without precedent. I believe it happened with the last gen X5M. My F85 was faster than the M5 that had come out a few years earlier. The new X5M is going have more power than the M5 and will cost more, just like the last gen. That's my guess.

That would be a good move. Especially with the Urus , etc. Will take some torque to get 5,300 lbs moving. I’d like to see a 660 hp 660 tq X5M !

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by kingmonkeyjr

Bye bye M5 Competition

Can’t tell on my phone. What was it and what ET ?

[Mako]

Originally Posted by Bogey4me

This wouldn't be without precedent. I believe it happened with the last gen X5M. My F85 was faster than the M5 that had come out a few years earlier. The new X5M is going have more power than the M5 and will cost more, just like the last gen. That's my guess.

Except last gen M5 didn't have AWD. That changed things drastically.

Even with more power a X5M will not break 3 seconds. Probably more in line with 3.5 of X3M

[DML]

A race car SAV, not my cup of tea.

[BobBeau]

I drove one of these at an M event last weekend. It handled awesome and pulled hard but the acceleration didn't feel anything like the numbers posted here. Very nice times!

[paliknight]

Originally Posted by Machtavian

Wow, 1.86 60' that's not even that great, must be all that weight and the D/A killing the torque. I'm excited about the G80 comp. With less weight, a better 60', and better air I think it can go in the 10.7-10.8 stock.

It would need to be under 3600lbs, have AWD, and over 560HP for that quarter mile time.

[Bowser330]

Originally Posted by 535i MSport

That's the rub. It's an SUV, so will be fighting against a high CoG. Just all calm down and wait for the new M3/4. All the talk will then be about that and how well it handles and not just 0-60.

I love my F80 and C63S, for how quickly they can accelerate from 40-120mph. 0-60 just doesn't correspond to normal driving.

0-60mph doesn't correspond to normal driving but 40-120mph does?



Sound like you don't drive much in urban areas and you're more on the highway, even then though, 120mph is very illegal in most places.

Where do you live that it's normal to accelerate from 40-120?

[2011zx10R]

Originally Posted by Bowser330

0-60mph doesn't correspond to normal driving but 40-120mph does?



Sound like you don't drive much in urban areas and you're more on the highway, even then though, 120mph is very illegal in most places.

Where do you live that it's normal to accelerate from 40-120?

Originally Posted by Bowser330

0-60mph doesn't correspond to normal driving but 40-120mph does?



Sound like you don't drive much in urban areas and you're more on the highway, even then though, 120mph is very illegal in most places.

Where do you live that it's normal to accelerate from 40-120?

Connecticut

95
91
Merit Parkway (the Ring)
84
691
Rte 2

[clee1982]

Well if we want to talk about "real world" I would think it's more like 0 to 35 (in town), 25 to 85 (merging), 50 to 85 (passing), maybe?

[edwarjejeega]

Originally Posted by Machtavian

Wow, 1.86 60' that's not even that great, must be all that weight and the D/A killing the torque. I'm excited about the G80 comp. With less weight, a better 60', and better air I think it can go in the 10.7-10.8 stock.

I wish this would be true but it just can't be. BMW has never made the M3/4 faster than the M5/6/8 and now will not be the time... I'm expecting about 11.3/4 times and at best conditions 11.1 for the G80/82. (Which is still highly impressive considering the big bad C8 Corvette does it in 11.3 at 121 MPH). If my 8 series can trap 121 MPH being that heavy then the G8x Competition will forsure trap around the 123/125 area.

EDIT: picture of the Leaked C8 Corvette Times here in case people don't believe me.

[evanescent03]

Originally Posted by clee1982

Well if we want to talk about "real world" I would think it's more like 0 to 35 (in town), 25 to 85 (merging), 50 to 85 (passing), maybe?

Stop being so logical! but yes, this is probably the real Real World for the vast majority.

[Machtavian]

Originally Posted by edwarjejeega

I wish this would be true but it just can't be. BMW has never made the M3/4 faster than the M5/6/8 and now will not be the time... I'm expecting about 11.3/4 times and at best conditions 11.1 for the G80/82. (Which is still highly impressive considering the big bad C8 Corvette does it in 11.3 at 121 MPH). If my 8 series can trap 121 MPH being that heavy then the G8x Competition will forsure trap around the 123/125 area.

EDIT: picture of the Leaked C8 Corvette Times here in case people don't believe me.

I like to dream big! I realize that it probably won't. I was just basing it off of the X3mc times. Think about it, if the X3 can run 11.7 at 6000 DA, that means that at sea level it should be .3-.5 seconds faster from my personal experience. That would put it at 11.2-11.4. That's crazy! The power must be way underrated.

[adc]

Originally Posted by 2011zx10R

That's awesome!

Seriously though why is everyone so pressed with 0 to 60 etc.

I get it's a benchmark

What's it like to drive?

Speed would be so far down the priority
List for me with an suv.

Looks, comfort, and suitable performance for a Sport Suv.

Nice numbers OP!

I’ll take a stab. Drove one at the local M Town, stepping straight out of my 2018 M3 with CS map. The straight line acceleration felt every bit as fast as the M3. Granted in traffic and all that but very very impressive. Handling wise, it’s suitable for a sporty SUV, good in transitions and as you would expect excellent under power coming out of turns.

You mostly feel the weight under braking, where to my perception there was a lot of brake dive and a big sense of mass. I’m not saying brakes aren’t effective, just that you definitely realize you aren’t driving a sedan.

I would not mind at all having one of these for a DD, if I had a dedicated track toy. It would be enjoyable, fast, practical.

As a matter of fact, our X3 should come in for a replacement just when the first wave of X3Ms will come out of leases.

[Bowser330]

Originally Posted by 2011zx10R

Connecticut

95
91
Merit Parkway (the Ring)
84
691
Rte 2

Well lucky you, I guess they don't have a very attentive highway patrol in Connecticut if you're getting up to 120mph regularly on all those highways.

Or

What sort of radar do you use? Escort? Valentine?

[Mfan007]

Originally Posted by adc

I’ll take a stab. Drove one at the local M Town, stepping straight out of my 2018 M3 with CS map. The straight line acceleration felt every bit as fast as the M3. Granted in traffic and all that but very very impressive. Handling wise, it’s suitable for a sporty SUV, good in transitions and as you would expect excellent under power coming out of turns.

You mostly feel the weight under braking, where to my perception there was a lot of brake dive and a big sense of mass. I’m not saying brakes aren’t effective, just that you definitely realize you aren’t driving a sedan.

I would not mind at all having one of these for a DD, if I had a dedicated track toy. It would be enjoyable, fast, practical.

As a matter of fact, our X3 should come in for a replacement just when the first wave of X3Ms will come out of leases.

Having a 2018 M3CS I will tell you that the X3MC feels faster, the torque is no joke.

[MrItaly]

Originally Posted by Mfan007

Having a 2018 M3CS I will tell you that the X3MC feels faster, the torque is no joke.

That is an impressive statement that leaves me wondering why I've heard the opposite from so many different reviewers (in full sport plus mode). Having ordered one myself, I'm happy to hear this, but I wonder why so many professional and amateur M enthusiasts state the opposite. That is, "it doesn't" feel " that fast, but the speedo tells me otherwise. " My guess is that the Xdrive system paired with a super smooth ZF transmission provides a linear acceration without the usual "thrusts" between gear changes resulting in a less invigorating experience compared to the throw you back in your seat treatment of a full RWD vehicle executing less than immediate shifts......

[535i MSport]

Originally Posted by Bowser330

0-60mph doesn't correspond to normal driving but 40-120mph does?



Sound like you don't drive much in urban areas and you're more on the highway, even then though, 120mph is very illegal in most places.

Where do you live that it's normal to accelerate from 40-120?

Semi-rural. Definitely not the traffic light Grand Prix.

If you don't like to go too fast try 40-80, but my point is that in normal driving, you are already rolling when you need to tap into some power. Eg when approaching a truck on a dual carriageway and you need to pull out when someone is approaching in the fast lane. That's when having some power makes for safer driving. Ditto, accelerating down a slip road to get up to traffic speed- typically 70-80mph in the UK - having power allows you to get in front of the truck that can't pullover because the fast lane is occupied.

If you don't drive on those sorts of roads then you won't "get it", but mid range is more important to me than pure 0-60, which once you get down to less than 5 seconds becomes more about traction than performance.